The John Delaney Thread

[geysir]

So, most people on an internet forum (including me) use Google. I'm trying hard to get offended but it's entirely accurate I'm afraid.
I use search engines.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Possible ODCE investigation: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0416/1042928-fai-accounts/

[zero]

Possible ODCE investigation: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0416/1042928-fai-accounts/

we'll get another ludicrous tribunal out of this at this rate.

[geysir]

I don't believe the Government have the authority to force out Delaney and/or the board.What they do have is the right to withhold public money and I can only presume that would be the leverage the Government would use to 'encourage' change.
And the new FAI board will be elected as per the FAI constitution, not appointed by the state.

edit: this reply was made free from search engine interference.

[pineapple stu]

FAI auditors also formally notifying the Companies Office that proper books of account aren't being kept. This may be as simple as them covering their arses about not being told of the 100k

[paul_oshea]

ya i mentioned it earlier theres two images going around, might as well search engine them and put them up on here.

ITs total ass covering by D & T. Because last year they signed off on the accounts after conducting the audit.

[paul_oshea]

And the new FAI board will be elected as per the FAI constitution, not appointed by the state.

edit: this reply was made free from search engine interference.

This is my concern, vote for the same at the next AGM. Provincial heads get elected to board, board decides on CEO. Whats to say these are any more capable. I think running of the game leave to the board, a bit like central council in the GAA. Set up a new entity for the administration and day to day running of the FAI.

[geysir]

This is my concern, vote for the same at the next AGM. Provincial heads get elected to board, board decides on CEO. Whats to say these are any more capable. I think running of the game leave to the board, a bit like central council in the GAA. Set up a new entity for the administration and day to day running of the FAI.
That might be your's and others' concern but it won't be FIFA's.

[osarusan]

I survived long without it. YOu and your ilk, such as delorean and most on here, thrive on it.
#altavista4lyf

[tetsujin1979]

DuckDuckGo FTW

[BonnieShels]

Shane Ross has told the committee that the entire board are to step down.

I suppose it was a pretty coded post tbf POSH. Impenetrable really.

[Scrufil]

If as was suggested today that in 2017 the FAI became insolvent but were saved by a dubious cheque that might or might not have been a criminal effort to hide money, does this mean they were operating without a tax clearance?

[pineapple stu]

No, not necessarily.

They could have been completely up to date on tax but struggling elsewhere.

I worked in a company which went bust without ever losing its tax clearance. We were up to date on tax (maybe a month behind), but it was the bank loan which killed us.

[Charlie Darwin]

google is great, isn't it?
Leave him alone Stu, he actually goes to away games.

[geysir]

Stu and his Elk

[paul_oshea]

Leave him alone Stu, he actually goes to away games.

YOu need new material, i came back from my hiatus thinking you'd have something new. Sadly and naively I over estimated you and your wit.

[paul_oshea]

Stu and his Elk

Bit late coming (the crowd has already left )but good :D

[paul_oshea]

Interesting the article on the independent. Alluding to what I was saying yesterday of "more of the same".

"They also want changes in how the board operates. Mr Treacy said that the FAI structure was "similar" to the old Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI) under the direction of Pat Hickey, stating that the impression he got was that "the FAI board were followers, not leaders".

This being the most interesting bit:

"Both Mr Ross and Mr Treacy would like the board to be drawn from a wider range of society with independent representation."

"Meanwhile, Mr Treacy wants the FAI to prioritise finding individuals with experience of corporate governance."

[geysir]

Bit late coming (the crowd has already left )but good :D
I thought of it at the time but I didn't think anyone would get it.
SkStu's probably googling it ;)

[geysir]

Dunphy on RTE claims that Delaney's relationship with Uefa has been hugely beneficial to Irish football.
That sounds like yet another crock of ....
Has anyone listed those alleged Delaney benefits over and above what a Joe Blogs could obtain?
Uefa moneys are distributed equitably to associations/clubs and according to competition regulations.

On the hosting of a few euro finals games, the state is obliged to grant Eur5m to "upgrade" a modern stadium to facilitate those games.

[paul_oshea]

é5mil says ....even if paid by Fifa.

[geysir]

é5mil says ....even if paid by Fifa.
An Taoiseach Enda Kenny quite correctly claimed that 5m payment damaged the reputation of Ireland as well as the FAI. The Eur 5m "loan" wasn't properly disclosed in the FAI accounts, supposedly at the request of Blatter/FIFA, who apparently are bigger than company law in Ireland.
One could argue that Delaney made the FAI complicit in accepting a bribe and disguising it as something else. That's a type of laundering, isn't it?
Danny Inv. laid it out bare somewhere, but I'd have to engage a search engine to find that source.

[jbyrne]

Dunphy on RTE claims that Delaney's relationship with Uefa has been hugely beneficial to Irish football.
That sounds like yet another crock of ....


on marian finnucane last sunday dunphy was singing delaneys praises and tried to deny he was a friend of delaneys until someone texted in to say they saw dunphy at delaneys 50th birthday bash!

[Diggs246]

Do ye remember this embarrassment of a song lads

" Oh John Delaney … he used to b a wa*ker, but he's alright now"

Jesus shame on anyone who sang that baby!!!

[Diggs246]

Also what level of bribes were going down for us to play Oman 3 times

[geysir]

on marian finnucane last sunday dunphy was singing delaneys praises and tried to deny he was a friend of delaneys until someone texted in to say they saw dunphy at delaneys 50th birthday bash!
Today is another day and Dunphy contributed to a piece on RTE mid morning (O'Rourke show) where he had seamlessly shifted over to the 'oust the whole board' bandwagon, but Dunphy said the FAI have to find somebody who was as good as Delaney with Uefa, that was really really important said Dunphy.

[Rufus]

Outside football what was Delaney's nine to five job as a younger man.

[geysir]

Also what level of bribes were going down for us to play Oman 3 times

Maybe that was the handiwork of Sammy the Sheikh?

[NeverFeltBetter]

Outside football what was Delaney's nine to five job as a younger man.

He was an accountant, wasn't he? But not since the mid-90s I think.

[SkStu]

I thought of it at the time but I didn't think anyone would get it.
SkStu's probably googling it ;)

haha :) moose try harder Geysir.

Anyway, I tend to just dismiss your posts as just some old guy letting off steam. ;)

[geysir]

Not just steam, but steam with sulphur.

[SkStu]

Indeed. Toxic with a foul stench. :D

[tetsujin1979]

Outside football what was Delaney's nine to five job as a younger man.

Think I remember reading he, or possibly his family, have a furniture company in Waterford.

[pineapple stu]

He used to say he was an accountant until someone found out he'd never been a member of any professional body.

So I think the current line is he did his exams but never bothered with the qualification. Why is anyone's guess.

He's been known to tell the odd porky though, so it's hard to know

[Cathalsmart]

Guys, don’t let what has happened the last few days change any plans about protesting. This crook has lied to us for years and it’s clear all the talk about leaving the last few days is a tactic to shut us up for the U17s and qualifiers, the fact the FAI can’t simply say “John Delaney has stepped down” is a clear give away. Protest at the opening ceremony and final should be the plan.

[tetsujin1979]

Would be against any protests at the u17 games. Nothing to do with them.

[paul_oshea]

Do ye remember this embarrassment of a song lads

" Oh John Delaney … he used to b a wa*ker, but he's alright now"

Jesus shame on anyone who sang that baby!!!

Thats why im completely against any supporter representation or the like, the ybig lads all thought he was great, then when "the best fans in the world" thought they were slighted by him after the Scotland ticket fiasco, he's a w**anker and should be out. they are a fickle self-serving bunch(fans in general) so I wouldnt want them anywhere near the board.

I also reckon they would feel they were the main instigators in getting Delaney out. A warped sense of reality.

Their hate of Delaney stems from that, it has little or nothing to do with LOI or anything else, as the grassroots club level they still love Delaney.

[paul_oshea]

Maybe that was the handiwork of Sammy the Sheikh?

He said that had nothing to do with him. He also said he was never working in a paid capacity for the FAI.

[paul_oshea]

Today is another day and Dunphy contributed to a piece on RTE mid morning (O'Rourke show) where he had seamlessly shifted over to the 'oust the whole board' bandwagon, but Dunphy said the FAI have to find somebody who was as good as Delaney with Uefa, that was really really important said Dunphy.

It will be interesting to see how this affects him in Europe, given the german lad who had to step down. It will smack of same old same old from UEFA if he doesn't lose that position.

I do kinda agree with Dunphy though, it takes a certain type of character obviously, and a fair period of time to work your way into a position of relative authority/sway in UEFA/FIFA.

[paul_oshea]

Indeed. Toxic with a foul stench. :D

Ill let you away with that one, because of its relatively low toxicity lets you scrape the barrel.

[Cathalsmart]

Would be against any protests at the u17 games. Nothing to do with them.

It’s about embarrassing the FAI, we Irish are too freaking nice. It’s the FAI’s fault for bringing us to the point that we protested at a underage tournament so he blame lies with them.

[tetsujin1979]

If you think disrupting 17 year olds playing football is an acceptable way to get your point across, you really need to take a long hard look at yourself

[Cathalsmart]

You think spending 41 grand in 6 months on personal use when clubs in the league are struggling to survive is okay? Us Irish fans are such beta’s, no wonder the FAI have been taking advantage of us for years.

[Cathalsmart]

If you think disrupting 17 year olds playing football is an acceptable way to get your point across, you really need to take a long hard look at yourself

Well the FAI shouldn’t have done the acts they have, now incident 17 year olds will pay the price.

[Eminence Grise]

It’s one thing to lob tennis balls onto the pitch when 22 multi-millionaire adults, used to being in high-pressure situations, are on it. But protesting at the u17 championships? They’re children. Legally, developmentally, emotionally. They’re out of bounds.

[osarusan]

It’s about embarrassing the FAI, we Irish are too freaking nice. It’s the FAI’s fault for bringing us to the point that we protested at a underage tournament so he blame lies with them.

Nonsense. The FAI being a shower of clowns can't be used are blame for your decision to protest at an U-17 game. Nobody is making anybody protest, it's entirely your own decision to do that.

If you think it's a fair thing to do, stand over that. If you think it's unfair, then either don't do it, or accept responsibility and blame for it. Don't delude yourself that even though you did something wrong or stupid, it's really the FAI's fault you did it.

[Real ale Madrid]

It’s one thing to lob tennis balls onto the pitch when 22 multi-millionaire adults, used to being in high-pressure situations, are on it. But protesting at the u17 championships? They’re children. Legally, developmentally, emotionally. They’re out of bounds.

I wouldn't be up for protesting at U-17 games but its a few tennis balls and a 2-3 minute delay to the game.

I think their young fragile minds should be able to handle that! Lets not over-dramatize it.

[Cathalsmart]

It’s one thing to lob tennis balls onto the pitch when 22 multi-millionaire adults, used to being in high-pressure situations, are on it. But protesting at the u17 championships? They’re children. Legally, developmentally, emotionally. They’re out of bounds.

Well the FAI should have thought of that before they committed the acts they have.

[Cathalsmart]

Nonsense. The FAI being a shower of clowns can't be used are blame for your decision to protest at an U-17 game. Nobody is making anybody protest, it's entirely your own decision to do that.

If you think it's a fair thing to do, stand over that. If you think it's unfair, then either don't do it, or accept responsibility and blame for it. Don't delude yourself that even though you did something wrong or stupid, it's really the FAI's fault you did it.

Yeah let’s just do nothing, let UEFA think everything is okay and then once they see that FAI can make a U-Turn and stay at the FAI along with his board and then keep incharge and then gets his UEFA gig...happy ending,

[osarusan]

Yeah let’s just do nothing, let UEFA think everything is okay and then once they see that FAI can make a U-Turn and stay at the FAI along with his board and then keep incharge and then gets his UEFA gig...happy ending,
Are they the only 2 options? Protest at an U-17 game, or do nothing?

If it's not one, it must be the other?