Croly leaves

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/35-news/3701-manager-departs

[Ezeikial]

Good luck and farewell Trevor Croly. It was fun while it lasted

[NeverFeltBetter]

Had to go after last night.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Does this mean Alan Cawley was right?

[eL Bettor]

QPR to run riot this afternoon!!
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2014/08/02/4999189/shamrock-rovers-qpr-preview-rangers-continue-premier-league

[Dalymountrower]

Hoping he could hang on for another week. Is that 4 managers in 4 years, ?MON, SK, Mr SEAT and Crolly?

[Sligo Hoops.]

Rovers board want to think long and hard about next appointment. No ad hoc appointment. They messed up the last two by not giving Kenny the time, and in Croly, by selecting the wrong candidate.

[pineapple stu]

Rovers board want to think long and hard about next appointment. No ad hoc appointment.
Who're the candidates I wonder?

Martin Russell might have been in the frame had he not taken up the Limerick job last week. Ditto Rico at Drogheda. Has the board already lost two good candidates by being too slow to axe Croly? Or would either have been any improvement?

Pat Fenlon?

Paul Doolin?!

McPhail? Or would his illness even allow it? I don't think there's anyone really in the current squad who could step up.

John Gill? (Current assistant manager)

Noel King?

Barraclough as already speculated.

I presume Roddy wouldn't be allowed within an arse's roar of the place after the last time he was manager.

Just throwing out names there obviously. Anyone else in Ireland? Or would it have to be an outside job if the above weren't interested/suitable?

[Ezeikial]

I wish to place on record my eternal gratitude to Jonathan Roche, Noel Byrne and the remaining lackeys on the Shamrock Rovers board for

a) Making Stephen Kenny available .
b) Providing such fun and amusement through the Brian Laws and Trevor Croly era(s)
c) Adding John Gill into the comedy mix.

More of the same please........

[DannyInvincible]

Rovers board want to think long and hard about next appointment. No ad hoc appointment. They messed up the last two by not giving Kenny the time, and in Croly, by selecting the wrong candidate.

Roddy's free at the minute...

[centre mid]

Nuttsy is probably the ideal candidate but would the board approve it? Cunny Kenningham was interviewed the last time I think.

[nigel-harps1954]

Barraclough.

[The Donie Forde]

Hoping he could hang on for another week. Is that 4 managers in 4 years, ?MON, SK, Mr SEAT and Crolly?

O'Neill, Kenny, Glass, Laws, Croly, 2011-2014

[Sligo Hoops.]

Nuttsy is probably the ideal candidate but would the board approve it? .

Now may be the time for Jonathan Roche to follow suit. He has presided over all appointments and "termination of contracts".

[ger121]

Would think Nutsy is favourite, closely followed by Barraclough. Though they may go left field a la Croly Mark II

[dong]

I honestly hope Baraclough gets it.

[oriel]

Would Rovers fans be happy with Barraclough? I think he's a decent manager, did extremely well winning the league in his first season, also thought a little harsh sacking him.

I would also think they might want Fenlon as first choice, but he has been very careful to decide on his next job, as he turned down Linfield and was never in the running for Sligo. Would he go there mid season? I'd imagine he'd prefer a club with a clean slate, getting his own players in, and with the Irish window now closed, he might not be that attracted. I could be wrong.

Croly was very poor, looked out of his depth and his pathetic interviews on soccer republic backed that up and just turned into weekly comedy sketches. I'd have made the change with him before the mid season break, he was making no progress, and that was clearly obvious. Maybe they were top 4, but you never got the impression they would challenge. Making a change then would have given a new man some scope to get players in and out and get more from those who were staying.

[White Horse]

Dreadful timing for sacking him, it gives his successor no time to bring in his own players.

If I was a Sham Rovers fan, I'd be questioning the competence of those who are making these decisions.

Sacking Kenny, appointing Croly, and now sacking him after the transfer window closes. Amateur stuff in Tallaght.

[centre mid]

While Kenny is doing a fantastic job at Dundalk, he had poor enough results at Rovers IIRC. The model club would appear to need a root and branch clear out though.

[Dalymountrower]

. The model club would appear to need a root and branch clear out though.

The coup specialists.

[Nesta99]

Might as well throw Terry Butcher's name in to the mix of former SPL managers to have had the job or are linked to it. Kenny wasnt given enough time at Rovers in most peoples opinion especially as it seemed at the time that he was being undermined by some players. As a reaction to that arguably premature sacking conversely Croly was given too much time as odd decisions/tactics/signings/team selection or whatever persisted. To the point where all bar Rovers fans were thoroughly enjoying the Tallaght dramas (not an obsession but almost compulsory car crash type viewing). Players being loaned out with a very good possibility that the umpteenth last throw of the dice signing was going to be inferior - and for significant outlay; Marquee signings like Quigley and Zayed no longer at Tallaght, an exceptional squad looking paper thin... Even the whole Rovers B and the 'incredible' amount of work that TC supposedly gave there but them going 9 or 10 games without even scoring, and to think so many of us were upset by the advantage Rovers B could be. Unless TC really has put in place structures that will one day reap benefits the current Board of S Rovers will be seen as those who squandered what should really be a period of fairly sustained domination of the league. Instead since M'ON its been a bit of a giggle. Sooo a massive decision for the Rovers suits now and one they cant really afford to get wrong or give too much time to, or sack to early, or give such enthusiatic post match interviews or do most of any of what TC did actually. Fenlon would be the safest choice in theory for stability and competativeness if not in a very fancy way. Anyone else, unless an outstanding candidate from outside the league, is on a hiding to nothing! Bet Louis Van Gaal is kicking himself for taking the Old Trafford job so quickly now!

[jinxy lilywhite]

Robbie Horgan for Tallaght

[sligoman]

Baraclough wouldn't bring success to Tallaght so I'd be more than happy to see him get it.

[oriel]

Baraclough wouldn't bring success to Tallaght so I'd be more than happy to see him get it.

I'm not suggesting they would even go for him but how can you say he wouldn't be a success. He won 3 trophies in a short time at Sligo.

[ger121]

If he can do it at Sligo, there's no reason he can't do it at Rovers.

[Park_Lane]

Crolly looked too much like the Nidge Weasel for my liking. Would've liked Russell, Would love Bucko but we'll probably end up with some fanny manager from the uk.

[Missing Links]

The model club would appear to need a root and branch clear out though.

Again?...Twigg has gone!

[poster]

but how can you say he wouldn't be a success..

He'd have to sign his own players.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

So if he came and won the league with the current batch next year he'd only have won it with Crolys team so it wouldn't count?

[White Horse]

Should be an interesting "Soccer Republic" tomorrow. I hope they have time to show some actual football though. RTE love a Shamrock Rovers story.

[dundalkfc10]

Should be an interesting "Soccer Republic" tomorrow. I hope they have time to show some actual football though. RTE love a Shamrock Rovers story.

Croly is on Soccer Republic tomorrow night, So we will get 50% of the show talking about Rovers sacking Croly, 45% on Rovers loss to Limerick, 3% to tell us if they got into the League Cup Final (game is on tomorrow) and 2% for the rest of us

[bluewhitearmy]

Croly is on Soccer Republic tomorrow night, So we will get 50% of the show talking about Rovers sacking Croly, 45% on Rovers loss to Limerick, 3% to tell us if they got into the League Cup Final (game is on tomorrow) and 2% for the rest of us

Fine by me :cool:

[poster]

So if he came and won the league with the current batch next year he'd only have won it with Crolys team so it wouldn't count?

No, he wouldn't win the league with that team.

[placid casual]

Croly is on Soccer Republic tomorrow night, So we will get 50% of the show talking about Rovers sacking Croly, 45% on Rovers loss to Limerick, 3% to tell us if they got into the League Cup Final (game is on tomorrow) and 2% for the rest of us

in your haste to cry foul about our national broadcaster, you've stumbled on an important truth.

in this league Shamrock Rovers are the only name that counts.
win lose or draw.

If your team go on to win a 1st league title in 20/30 years that wont change one iota.
same with pats last year.
Enjoy.

[Ezeikial]

If your team go on to win a 1st league title in 20/30 years that wont change one iota.
same with pats last year.
Enjoy.

No need for any prompt - it has already been a really enjoyable last 2 seasons under Stephen Kenny. If we do actually win the league this year I will savor every moment.

You also encapsulate why beating Shams is so enjoyable

[White Horse]

in your haste to cry foul about our national broadcaster, you've stumbled on an important truth.

in this league Shamrock Rovers are the only name that counts.
win lose or draw.

If your team go on to win a 1st league title in 20/30 years that wont change one iota.
same with pats last year.
Enjoy.

The only name that appears to count in the Dublin media, that is true.

[dundalkfc10]

in your haste to cry foul about our national broadcaster, you've stumbled on an important truth.

in this league Shamrock Rovers are the only name that counts.
win lose or draw.

If your team go on to win a 1st league title in 20/30 years that wont change one iota.
same with pats last year.
Enjoy.

2 League titles in 20 years. The pressure of playing for the big club must have been too much for all them years.

[Yossarian]

Fourth highest budget?? That made me laugh!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/rovers-to-offer-fenlon-the-hot-seat-as-croly-hits-back-30481144.html

[nigel-harps1954]

So, let me get this straight. Paul Cook built the team, but couldn't win the league with them, and is lauded as a hero of sorts around the Showgrounds. Ian Barraclough came into the club, and won the league with the team Cook couldn't, yet there's a lack of respect for him, even after delivering the first title to Sligo in 35 years, as "it wasn't his team".

So, hypothetically, if Barraclough went to Shamrock Rovers and won the league with the team Crolly built, it wouldn't be much of an achievement either?

I've always scratched my head at the logic of some of the Sligo support, but this has really bemused me.

[White Horse]

Fourth highest budget?? That made me laugh!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/rovers-to-offer-fenlon-the-hot-seat-as-croly-hits-back-30481144.html

The most interesting interview I've heard from Croly to date.

The budget comment is obviously rubbish (how much were Rovers paying Zayed and McFail?). However, he paints the picture of a club that is so far up its own $@*! that they are impossible to manage. The problems in Tallaght run deeper than the manager.

[pineapple stu]

However, he paints the picture of a club that is so far up its own $@*! that they are impossible to manage. The problems in Tallaght run deeper than the manager.
What gives you that impression?

All I read into it is the standard waffle of a sacked manager trying to paint a picture for future employees of how great he was.

[Nailor]

So he blames the fans for the poor showings ?? Nothing to do with the complete total and utter dross the fans had to witness week in week out since he arrived ?

The bizarre team selections, the even madder substitutions, the fact he signed a waster like Zayed, re-signed 7 or 8 players who had been deemed not good enough a couple of years before ?

He is a nice guy, but he is one seriously deluded individual.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

So, let me get this straight. Paul Cook built the team, but couldn't win the league with them, and is lauded as a hero of sorts around the Showgrounds. Ian Barraclough came into the club, and won the league with the team Cook couldn't, yet there's a lack of respect for him, even after delivering the first title to Sligo in 35 years, as "it wasn't his team".

So, hypothetically, if Barraclough went to Shamrock Rovers and won the league with the team Crolly built, it wouldn't be much of an achievement either?

I've always scratched my head at the logic of some of the Sligo support, but this has really bemused me.

Very important word

[nigel-harps1954]

Very important word

Thought I should have emphasise it further, but I love a bit of controversy.

[adamd164]

Fourth highest budget?? That made me laugh!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/rovers-to-offer-fenlon-the-hot-seat-as-croly-hits-back-30481144.html

I'd be interested to see a budget table for the league. I'd imagine we are the most overachieving club right now based on budget size.

[Ezeikial]

Wow - the great Shamrock Rovers (Irelands most successful football club, cup specialists, model club, best resourced, best stadium in the league, biggest fanbase etc etc) have only the 4th highest budget in the league!!


"In all likelihood Shamrock Rovers have the league's fourth largest budget behind Dundalk, Sligo and St Pat's," said Croly. - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/rovers-to-offer-fenlon-the-hot-seat-as-croly-hits-back-30481144.html#sthash.eHJpJzGU.dpuf



I thought the Hoops comedy show would finish with Croly's departure

[White Horse]

I'd be interested to see a budget table for the league. I'd imagine we are the most overachieving club right now based on budget size.

I'd say you are. Just imagine the budget you'll have next season if you keep packing in 5,000 fans.

[El-Pietro]

I believe (though I could be wrong) that we had the 7th biggest budget at the start of the season. That may well have increased over the summer.

[Dalymountrower]

Indo article suggests some major pro Fenlon spinning going on within Rovers.Puts PF in a strong negotiating position if he still wants the job.

[donnrua]

[QUOTE=El-Pietro;1770227]I believe (though I could be wrong) that we had the 7th biggest budget at the start of the season. That may well have increased over the summer.[/QUOTE
Shambolic Rovers obviously have the most cash probably Pat's after that followed by either Sligo/Dundalk. I'd say Cork would have the next biggest budget or are Cork paying their fairly large squad pittance?