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Pat O' Banton
10/11/2004, 1:00 PM
If only someone told the hounds, raw fox is so working class and completely out of place with the social elite at a hunt.

sligoman
10/11/2004, 4:26 PM
It's nice to see a good reply to this thread anyway.People obviously have strong feelings for or against the ban

lopez
10/11/2004, 6:02 PM
Found this on another mb.... :DIf you can eat a fox, I say go for it. But I think the thing would be highly disgusting: Oscar did. Anyway you won't have much left after Bertie Basset's ripped it to pieces.

Bloke where I work is always on the look out for any of us hitting Pheasants with the train, so that he can go and pick them up. You can imagine what it's like for a human being hit by a train let alone a Pheasant, and he still thinks their edible. :rolleyes: Country bumkin wannabees, I'd say.

Éanna
10/11/2004, 6:13 PM
Most other activities that involve people with more money than sense dressing up in silly clothes and indulging in acts of sadism happen behind closed doors :rolleyes:
its vile, cruel and wrong. OUT

eoinh
10/11/2004, 9:06 PM
Either way, Rover has a short lifespan. Because life for animals can be nasty, brutish and short, and that's just the way it is.

Not if youre a tortise!

sylvo
10/11/2004, 10:54 PM
:D :D

I take it you are trying humour and not really blaming me for road accidents...


No, I can't say that I was trying any humour, and I would only blame or accuse a person for anything if the facts are there in front of me. So no, how then can I be blaming you personally of anything.

lopez
10/11/2004, 10:58 PM
Most other activities that involve people with more money than sense dressing up in silly clothes and indulging in acts of sadism happen behind closed doors :rolleyes:
its vile, cruel and wrong. OUTOnly if (at least) one of the party is objecting. ;)

Macy
11/11/2004, 7:14 AM
If you can eat a fox, I say go for it. But I think the thing would be highly disgusting: Oscar did. Anyway you won't have much left after Bertie Basset's ripped it to pieces.

Bloke where I work is always on the look out for any of us hitting Pheasants with the train, so that he can go and pick them up. You can imagine what it's like for a human being hit by a train let alone a Pheasant, and he still thinks their edible. :rolleyes: Country bumkin wannabees, I'd say.
Well on the mb I was on they were talking about organising an urban hunt, with their pet dogs, baseball bats and them on mountain bikes.... :)

I've never tried pheasant, or most "game" meats. Not for any reason bar the thought of it hanging up for six months before you eat it!

lopez
11/11/2004, 9:22 AM
Well on the mb I was on they were talking about organising an urban hunt, with their pet dogs, baseball bats and them on mountain bikes.... :)

I've never tried pheasant, or most "game" meats. Not for any reason bar the thought of it hanging up for six months before you eat it!If the hoi poloi are involved you can bet your sweet Irish ass it will be banned.

A country hotel near where we lived used to have pheasant shoots.

They were always escaping and going all over the place.

When the shooting season started, most of them were so fat and tame they would waddle up to anyone with a gun in his hand...BOOOM...In my experience they are the most stupidest bird around with the exception of Jordan. Their mates get run over/hit by a train and they hang around with him waiting to see him wake up. Then they wonder why they are joining him in Pheasant heaven. One week along the M25 each day I spotted another joining their pals, all in a row. BTW, pheasant is pretty awful. Keeps repeating.

eoinh
11/11/2004, 9:41 AM
What about the eradication of natural systems like the amazon rain forest?

Or the killing of rare species like blue whale, mountain guerellas or the last known endogenous female bear in the pyrennes last week?

Much of the environmental problems that the world is starting to suffer from and which will get progressively worse can be traced back to unregulated destruction of habitats and flora and fauna.

There are now more environmental refugees in the world than political.

eoinh
11/11/2004, 10:21 AM
But stopping the hunts here will have no impact on that, they are not related issues...

Most hunting in Ireland is unregulated. Simply assuming that killing of a large number of a particular species doesnt have affects on the natural environment is naive.

Macy
11/11/2004, 10:37 AM
Most hunting in Ireland is unregulated. Simply assuming that killing of a large number of a particular species doesnt have affects on the natural environment is naive.
But are large numbers being killed though? Fox hunts have been going on for centuries. And that's not taking into account the urbanisation of foxes increasing the numbers.

If you talking about pheasants and other game birds, they're bred specifically for shooting. No shoots, less pheasants. If anything the balance is being upset by the introduction of more of them, not the killing of them.

Killing a large number of particular species does affect the natural environment, but not controlling numbers can be equally detrimental.

liamon
11/11/2004, 12:38 PM
Most hunting in Ireland is unregulated. Simply assuming that killing of a large number of a particular species doesnt have affects on the natural environment is naive.
Macy is right. The number of gamebirds is controlled in ireland as they are routlniely bred and released into the wild for this purpose. To the best of my knowledge, pheasant are not even native to Ireland.

As for foxes, there is no shortage of them and hunting them with hounds on horse back has little chance of a kill. So it has no dramatic effect on their numbers.

Also, there is some regulation. Hunting is confined to determined seasons. For instance, pheasant season is Nov - Jan. Anyone hunting outside of that time is breaking the law. Not sure how strict enforcement is, but anyone that I know of who hunts also obeys these rules.

Macy
11/11/2004, 12:52 PM
Also, there is some regulation. Hunting is confined to determined seasons. For instance, pheasant season is Nov - Jan. Anyone hunting outside of that time is breaking the law. Not sure how strict enforcement is, but anyone that I know of who hunts also obeys these rules.
Pheasant season is defo just started, as hundreds of the blooming things around us now. Who has the last laugh? The toffs bred them on their estates, release them, first sound of gun shot the pheasants píss off onto the surrounding land. :cool: