Tipp South & District League 2014/15

[footy.fan]

Peake villa vs Nenagh Celtic (or nenagh town ???) and Clonmel Celtic vs Roscrea Utd look to be the ties of the 2nd Round.

I see nenagh Celtic are in the draw twice, I can only assume it should be towns name vs villa.

[SgtBilko]

Anyone have an update about the Richard Ryan issue, will St Michaels lose all 3 points? From what i believe the suspension needs to be served domestically.

[biglad101]

Anyone no if Wilderness even put in an appeal???

[Tipp Top]

Anyone no if Wilderness even put in an appeal???
The big problem now is that no team will accept a suspension, if you have a suspended play you can play him and when the Tsdl committee try to punish a club their hands are tied. The rule is as clear as day in the rule book, suspension MUST be served in Tsdl league games ONLY

[SgtBilko]

It is a complete farce if St Michaels get away with this one!

[nononsense]

The big problem now is that no team will accept a suspension, if you have a suspended play you can play him and when the Tsdl committee try to punish a club their hands are tied. The rule is as clear as day in the rule book, suspension MUST be served in Tsdl league games ONLY
Could you quote the actual rule and/or the page it is on?

[biglad101]

Yea it should be up to the league to deduct the points not to leave it off to see do Wilderness lodge an appeal. Surely it must be dealt with by now.

[nononsense]

It is a complete farce if St Michaels get away with this one!
Perhaps you can quote the rule which has been broken please?

[nononsense]

Yea it should be up to the league to deduct the points not to leave it off to see do Wilderness lodge an appeal. Surely it must be dealt with by now.
Correct. Whether a club lodges an appeal or not is irrelevant. If a team plays an illegal player and the governing body become aware of this, after investigation and discovered the rules have been broken, they deduct the points from the offending club and allocate to the opposition.

[Tipp Top]

Perhaps you can quote the rule which has been broken please?

The secretary of each club has a copy of the Tsdl rules, also when unsure they are advised to ring the Tsdl to seek clarification. The Tsdl informed the clubs last season at the Agm that all suspensions for the accumulation of bookings must be served in domestic league games ONLY

[nononsense]

The secretary of each club has a copy of the Tsdl rules, also when unsure they are advised to ring the Tsdl to seek clarification. The Tsdl informed the clubs last season at the Agm that all suspensions for the accumulation of bookings must be served in domestic league games ONLY
You have not answered my question which was quote the rule broken or the page it is on. I want to see it as it appears in the rule book. You state quite clearly on post 54 above '' the rule is as clear as day in the rule book,'' If it 'as clear as day' quote it. I will ask you again, please quote the rule which was broken.

[Tipp Top]

You have not answered my question which was quote the rule broken or the page it is on. I want to see it as it appears in the rule book. You state quite clearly on post 54 above '' the rule is as clear as day in the rule book,'' If it 'as clear as day' quote it. I will ask you again, please quote the rule which was broken.

Nononsense you have been watching too many courtroom dramas on Netflix, this is foot.ie, nobody has to quote rules or take the minutes of Tsdl meetings or count posts on foot to know which is post 54. If you want to see a rule book I'm sure the secretary's of various clubs would be only delighted to accommodate you. I think it's pretty obvious the technicality ur trying to argue "there is no rule book". Every secretary of tsdl clubs are aware that accumulation of bookings must be served in league games ONLY. How do they know this? Because the Tsdl told them. So if it's not written in stone does that mean the rule suddenly doesn't apply? NO

[complexman]

Nononsense you have been watching too many courtroom dramas on Netflix, this is foot.ie, nobody has to quote rules or take the minutes of Tsdl meetings or count posts on foot to know which is post 54. If you want to see a rule book I'm sure the secretary's of various clubs would be only delighted to accommodate you. I think it's pretty obvious the technicality ur trying to argue "there is no rule book". Every secretary of tsdl clubs are aware that accumulation of bookings must be served in league games ONLY. How do they know this? Because the Tsdl told them. So if it's not written in stone does that mean the rule suddenly doesn't apply? NO

If Widerness had played the "suspended" player, I reckon they would lose the three points. That's my honest opinion

[SgtBilko]

An accumulation of bookings must be served in domestic league games only. Richie Ryan played against Wilderness Rovers!

[Redman028]

The rule in the past as far as appealing was it was up to the club to appeal , but at last years agm the committee stated a rule change in that if unregistered/suspended player played then the TSDL committee would take action , Saints will be deducted points regardless of whether Wildies appeal or not

[Tipp Top]

The rule in the past as far as appealing was it was up to the club to appeal , but at last years agm the committee stated a rule change in that if unregistered/suspended player played then the TSDL committee would take action , Saints will be deducted points regardless of whether Wildies appeal or not

I think we all know that is the correct information but we also all know that the Tsdl will not take that action

[Redman028]

I think we all know that is the correct information but we also all know that the Tsdl will not take that action

They have no choice , they have to

[nononsense]

For the genuine people who read this forum could I explain the rules regarding a player who accumulates 4 yellow cards. Misleading information has been posted here and some people my tend to believe it as fact.
Following an accumulation of 4 yellow cards a mandatory one game ban is imposed. Official notification of this ban is sent to the club secretary informing him/her the suspension to be served at the next competitive game. The letter should not nor will it state the suspension must be served in domestic competition only. There is no mention in the rule it must be served in domestic league. The relevant rule is in the F.A.I. rule book under whose jurisdiction the TSDL operates and the TSDL must comply with the F.A.I. rulebook.
The rules governing suspensions are complex and not straightforward. Different suspensions apply to different situations. If any club or indeed individual is confused by the rules or what was said at the AGM they should seek clarification from their governing body.

[biglad101]

Is it 4 or 5 yellows to get suspended for one game? We could argue on this all day i think if anything was gonna be done it would of been done by now i just hope the rules are applied the same in potential future cases.

[complexman]

Is it 4 or 5 yellows to get suspended for one game? We could argue on this all day i think if anything was gonna be done it would of been done by now i just hope the rules are applied the same in potential future cases.
Totally agree. Wasn't it a few years ago that Michaels didn't lose home advantage due to bad weather in a crucial Fai tie v Celtic.
Sadly there seems to be favouritism shown towards some clubs than others.

[nononsense]

Is it 4 or 5 yellows to get suspended for one game? We could argue on this all day i think if anything was gonna be done it would of been done by now i just hope the rules are applied the same in potential future cases.
It is 4 yellow cards.

[West Hammer]

TSDL AREA







MUNSTER JUNIOR CUP 2014-15











Preliminary Round Draw



Ballyneal FC
v
Slieveardagh Utd



Wilderness Rvs
v
Kilmanahan United



Clonmel Celtic
v
St Nicholas FC

















1st Round Draw



Ballyneal FC or Slieveardagh Utd
v
Bansha Celtic



Galbally Utd
v
St Michael's AFC



Glengoole United
v
Donohill & District



Clonmel Celtic or St Nicholas
v
Burncourt Celtic



Vee Rovers FC
v
Tipperary Town



Cashel Town FC
v
Old Bridge FC



Killenaule Rovers
v
Rosegreen Rangers



Two Mile Borris / St Kevin's
v
Cahir Park AFC



Wilderness Rvs or Kilmanahan Utd
v
Suirside FC



Clonmel Town FC
v
Kilsheelan Utd



Moyglass Utd FC
v
Redmondstown



Peake Villa FC
v
Cullen-Lattin FC

















2nd Round Draw


A
Glengoole United or Donohill & District
v
Clonmel Town FC or Kilsheelan Utd


B
Clonmel Celtic or St Nicholas or Burncourt Celtic
v
Cashel Town FC or Old Bridge


C
Peake Villa FC or Cullen-Lattin
v
Ballyneal FC or Slieveardagh Utd or Bansha Celtic


D
Two Mile Borris / St Kevin's or Cahir Park
v
Killenaule Rovers or Rosegreen Rgs


E
Moyglass Utd FC or Redmondstown
v
Vee Rovers FC or Tipperary Town


F
Wilderness Rvs or Kilmanahan Utd or Suirside
v
Galbally Utd or St Michael's

















3rd Round Draw



F
v
C



A
v
B



D
v
E

[Tipp Top]

Interesting to see if the Tsdl will take any action over a comment made by a member of the Tsdl Kennedy Cup management on a social network site with regards to Cashel Town Fc and the standard of coaching within the clubs schoolboy set up. my understanding is the comment has been reported.

[biglad101]

Anything on the Michaels, Wilderness game or has it just been forgotten about. Big games tommorro
think Michaels will just have enough for Town.

[Tipp Top]

First things first...what went on on Cooke Park isn't good for the Tsdl. It's the easiest thing in the world to say refs are cheats etc....does anyone ever think for a second that maybe a referee...just like players sometimes...is simply not up to it? First incident, clearly chalkie fouls town player in build up to saints 2nd goal, 2nd incident John Shanahan has to get a straight red card for the saints penalty, 3rd incident clear as day the saints player handles on the line and it's a pen and red card. how all 3 officials miss those is baffling. Result was fair, officials affected both sides. Last point the 2 red cards were correct...no matter how bad a decision you can not use foul language

[complexman]

First things first...what went on on Cooke Park isn't good for the Tsdl. It's the easiest thing in the world to say refs are cheats etc....does anyone ever think for a second that maybe a referee...just like players sometimes...is simply not up to it? First incident, clearly chalkie fouls town player in build up to saints 2nd goal, 2nd incident John Shanahan has to get a straight red card for the saints penalty, 3rd incident clear as day the saints player handles on the line and it's a pen and red card. how all 3 officials miss those is baffling. Result was fair, officials affected both sides. Last point the 2 red cards were correct...no matter how bad a decision you can not use foul language
Town were poor. Michaels didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to win.
less said about officials the better

[Tipp Top]

Town were poor. Michaels didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to win.
less said about officials the better

I don't think the result was unfair but if the ref does his job and awards the penalty and red card it's 2-1 and 11 V 10. However if the ref had done his job previously Shanahan would have been sent off and Town are down to 10. It's one of those days where all 3 officials probably go away and think "I've really had one today". It's junior football, it happens

[complexman]

I don't think the result was unfair but if the ref does his job and awards the penalty and red card it's 2-1 and 11 V 10. However if the ref had done his job previously Shanahan would have been sent off and Town are down to 10. It's one of those days where all 3 officials probably go away and think "I've really had one today". It's junior football, it happens
Agreed

[footy.fan]

Anyone know when the draw for the nxt round of the fai junior cup takes place?

[biglad101]

Nice draws for the Tsdl sides in the Fai. Town vs Celtic sunday any thoughts?

[the wombat]

Nice draws for the Tsdl sides in the Fai. Town vs Celtic sunday any thoughts?

Can't see town winning to be honest. Pretty poor so far this season. Good managerial team but in serious need of 3 or 4 top drawer players

[complexman]

I hate saying it but Celtic are flying. Scoring goals for fun and strong at the back. Only one winner

[biglad101]

Yes Celtic have been scoring loads but they haven played any one strong yet plus Town have only lost 1 so far fair enough they havent blown teams away i wreckin it'l be a tight game with not much in it.

[footballfanatic]

deed lads tis a guaranteed nil all or 1-1.

[biglad101]

2-1 Celtic today hopefully a cracking game.

[balls]

Any report from town Celtic game. Finished 2-2

[SgtBilko]

the town site says they were 2-0 and strolling and then had 2 men sent off and celtic got back into the game

[complexman]

I thought this was one of the best Town displays that I have seen in a couple of seasons. We were cruising and then indiscipline cost us. No complaints there. Kevin Waters first goal was superb and only a great save by Evan Comerford prevented us losing the game.
however I must say that the behaviour of one of the opposition players was despicable. Enough said

[Tipp Top]

Another derogatory comment from the Kennedy Cup manager, this time a 3am post in relation to the behaviour of Two Mile Borris schoolboys parents and coaches, once again comment removed this morning, the last post claimed Cashel Town coaching was so bad that all kids with ability had to go to St michaels and other clubs to be taught properly, and the most interesting part was the post was made to Liam Browne the PRO of the Tsdl and surprise surprise they failed to act on this new social network rule

[footballfanatic]

who is kennedy cup manager and i go for an aul snoop?

[Tipp Top]

who is kennedy cup manager and i go for an aul snoop?

Borris took a screen shot of the latest comment so I'd say he will be the former kennedy cup manager, he deleted the facebook comment the following morning, I think Borris are a great club and their schoolboys do super work, for the county manager to question their behaviour on the line compared to other clubs is completely inappropriate, am I shocked the tsdl constantly do nothing about him? No

[West Hammer]

Nothing to do with TSDL. It's a matter for the TSSDL ( Schoolboy League) They are 2 separate leagues and Committee's.

[Tipp Top]

Nothing to do with TSDL. It's a matter for the TSSDL ( Schoolboy League) They are 2 separate leagues and Committee's.

I hope they act on it so, to say all schoolboys in cashel have to leave as the coaching is so bad and to then question the behavior of Borris coaches is unacceptable for a man in his position, I think it's fair game when junior players etc get stick on here as they are all big boys, schoolboy football relies on volunteers and people who give up their time for the kids, I know Johnny Cremins is back involved at schoolboy level and as a former manager of this player I have no doubt he will sort it out, say what you like about Johnny he is a top football man

[SgtBilko]

what do you expect from a pig only a grunt

[biglad101]

Not much interest on here anymore whats goin on?

[Celticsup]

Not much interest on here anymore whats goin on?
Is this down to the new social media rule by TSDL.

[biglad101]

It could be that alright. Were Saints not ment to play Glengoole today no scores up on the tsdl website. Town droppin points away to Peake be tough for them to win the league now.

[Celticsup]

It could be that alright. Were Saints not ment to play Glengoole today no scores up on the tsdl website. Town droppin points away to Peake be tough for them to win the league now.

Correct, fixture seem to have disappeared of the TSDL site.

[biglad101]

Was the Michaels game cancelled anyone no?

[SebenEleben]

Still no fixtures for some clubs on the T.S.D.L website for the coming weekend nor the weekend after. What is the hold up does any1 no? TSDL must be busy.....