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adamd164
21/04/2014, 5:03 PM
Results and current scores:
3 p.m. Bohemians 0 - 2 Sligo Rovers FT
3 p.m. Derry City 0 - 0 Limerick FC FT
3 p.m. U.C.D 0 - 1 Cork City FT
5 p.m. Athlone Town 0 - 0 Dundalk
6 p.m. Drogheda United 0 - 0 St. Patrick's Ath
7 p.m. Shamrock Rovers 0 - 0 Bray Wanderers
Absolutely outrageous sending off for us against UCD earlier on, Darren Dennehy wasn't even the last man, went in for the ball and got a straight red. Dire refereeing from Sutton. But we looked comfortable enough even with 10 men...if the game was still on now I don't think UCD would have scored.
Dalymountrower
21/04/2014, 5:30 PM
Spirited pwrformance from Bohs in the second half.Sligo looked disinterested throughout barely deserved the ponts.
Town Legend
21/04/2014, 5:32 PM
I see Craig Sexton is listed as starting in goals for Athlone. Is he really there or did they put a life size cardboard cut out of him and stick it between the posts?!!
SwanVsDalton
21/04/2014, 5:36 PM
Barely a chance created by Derry in their last two games against Bray and Limerick. This season could drag on forever.
pineapple stu
21/04/2014, 5:53 PM
Absolutely outrageous sending off for us against UCD earlier on, Darren Dennehy wasn't even the last man, went in for the ball and got a straight red. Dire refereeing from Sutton. But we looked comfortable enough even with 10 men...if the game was still on now I don't think UCD would have scored.
Ah stop. It was nothing to do with last man; it was all to do with that being a proper leg-breaker of a tackle. Obvious red; was amazed at the protests over it. Interesting that you don't mention Cork's goal being offside too. Maybe the ref was quicker to reach for red to even out that mistake, but still an awful tackle. And then Cork booed the wrong player for the rest of the half!
Football talk would be so much better if people could criticise their own teams.
Was surprised at Cork's second half tactics - barely bothered to attack, but put ten men behind the ball. Always risky, that. But as you say, we simply didn't know how to unpick a massed defence. Two shots in the second half - one very tame. Tells its own story, that.
Poor game overall.
adamd164
21/04/2014, 5:57 PM
Hold on.... we, the away team, were down to 10 men for over an hour, in that space of time you had what I counted to be 1 shot on target and you're disappointed with our tactics? ;)
No wonder UCD are so rubbish if their own fans don't expect them to score against 10 men at home in >1 hour!
colonelwest
21/04/2014, 5:58 PM
Richie Towell with an injury time winner from the spot for Dundalk!
pineapple stu
21/04/2014, 6:13 PM
Hold on.... we, the away team, were down to 10 men for over an hour, in that space of time you had what I counted to be 1 shot on target and you're disappointed with our tactics? ;)
No wonder UCD are so rubbish if their own fans don't expect them to score against 10 men at home in >1 hour!
Now you're getting confused. I already commented on our lack of guile in the final third. So clearly you didn't read my post there.
The red card merely evened the game up. Cork are top of the league for a reason and for the remainder of the first half created a few chances. The change for the second half was to put everyone behind the ball and hang on. I don't think that approach was necessary for a top of the table team against one in eleventh.
Not reading posts properly - taking what you want to out of them - is almost as annoying as not being able to acknowledge when your side deservedly picks up a red, or flukily scores a goal.
L.T.F.C.
21/04/2014, 6:32 PM
Ah stop. It was nothing to do with last man; it was all to do with that being a proper leg-breaker of a tackle. Obvious red; was amazed at the protests over it. Interesting that you don't mention Cork's goal being offside too. Maybe the ref was quicker to reach for red to even out that mistake, but still an awful tackle. And then Cork booed the wrong player for the rest of the half!
Football talk would be so much better if people could criticise their own teams.
Was surprised at Cork's second half tactics - barely bothered to attack, but put ten men behind the ball. Always risky, that. But as you say, we simply didn't know how to unpick a massed defence. Two shots in the second half - one very tame. Tells its own story, that.
Poor game overall.
Come off it Stu. Never a red and I speak as an impartial spectator!
UCD were absolute rubbish. The only thing that is going to stop them going down is Athlone! Belhout hadn't a clue where to be on the pitch although he didn't play too badly - however his attitude is rubbish. Mulhall was crap too - offered nothing. Douglas played well though.
The positioning of the UCD players left alot to be desired. There was so much space out by the stand in the second half and Belhout didn't make use of it. So congested in the middle too. Cork were never in trouble even with 10 men.
ATFC-1887
21/04/2014, 6:43 PM
The ref in our game was an absolute disgrace. Never in a million years a penalty. We deserved at least a point. Alot going on in the tunnel after the final whistle with a few bust ups being reported.
pineapple stu
21/04/2014, 6:46 PM
I'll agree with all that except the red card. Genuinely, a bad, bad challenge. Last man or intent don't come into it.
That was our worst performance since the opening day, so I'll still reckon our points don't reflect our performances so far. But if that was your first ucd game of the season, I can see where you'd get that only Athlone can save us.
That was our worst performance since the opening day, so I'll still reckon our points don't reflect our performances so far. But if that was your first ucd game of the season, I can see where you'd get that only Athlone can save us.
I was certainly very impressed with UCD when Pats played them. We were fortunate to come away with all 3 points.
In other news, the Champions seem to be coming into some form. Seemingly Chris Forrestor scored a couple of crackers today.
White Horse
21/04/2014, 8:02 PM
The ref in our game was an absolute disgrace. Never in a million years a penalty. We deserved at least a point. Alot going on in the tunnel after the final whistle with a few bust ups being reported.
Just back from the game. I didn't think it was a penalty either. The Dundalk fans were very far away from it, so I would like to see a replay. The worst Dundalk performance of the season.
L.T.F.C.
21/04/2014, 8:33 PM
I'll agree with all that except the red card. Genuinely, a bad, bad challenge. Last man or intent don't come into it.
That was our worst performance since the opening day, so I'll still reckon our points don't reflect our performances so far. But if that was your first ucd game of the season, I can see where you'd get that only Athlone can save us.
Honestly Stu never a red. I'll buy you a bag of chips when Town play UCD when we see it on Soccer Republic!
Well if UCD play like that when against a 10 man Cork for 60 mins with two shots on goal for the rest of the season I think that Athlone will be your saving grace!
ATFC-1887
21/04/2014, 9:09 PM
Worst thing about us not having a point is, in alot of our games, we have been deserving of at least a draw. Rovers is the only game i can say that we were truly and utterly battered. We are having absolutely no luck at the moment.
OldNassau
21/04/2014, 9:15 PM
Results and current scores:
3 p.m. Bohemians 0 - 2 Sligo Rovers FT
3 p.m. Derry City 0 - 0 Limerick FC FT
3 p.m. U.C.D 0 - 1 Cork City FT
5 p.m. Athlone Town 0 - 0 Dundalk
6 p.m. Drogheda United 0 - 0 St. Patrick's Ath
7 p.m. Shamrock Rovers 0 - 0 Bray Wanderers
Absolutely outrageous sending off for us against UCD earlier on, Darren Dennehy wasn't even the last man, went in for the ball and got a straight red. Dire refereeing from Sutton. But we looked comfortable enough even with 10 men...if the game was still on now I don't think UCD would have scored.
Correct Red Card. Morrison had gone beyond Dennehy and he unceremoniously took him out of it with a tackle that could have done a lot of damage to the player. Nothing got to do with not being the last man. His brother went crazy and was lucky only to get a yellow. Ucd did not take advantage of the extra man and rarely troubled Cork bar the last couple of minutes.
Charlie Darwin
21/04/2014, 9:29 PM
Just back from Tallaght. Rovers were very lacklustre and lost the plot completely when Bray got a dodgy enough penalty (turn the volume up on Soccer Republic to hear Akinade screech like a banshee). Once McPhail went off and then Finn, there was a severe leadership deficit there, somebody to put their foot on the ball and calm everybody else down. On the plus side, Sean Heaney looks an absolute player. I wouldn't have Luke Byrne back in the team any time soon.
Lim till i die
21/04/2014, 9:45 PM
Highlight of the game in the Brandywell was midway through the second half when a single Derry fan broke the silence by shouting a single "BORING"
pineapple stu
21/04/2014, 9:50 PM
In other news, the Champions seem to be coming into some form.
On that note, it's interesting that the league has very quickly reverted somewhat to expectations; only Derry and Drogheda in the opposite half of the league to what was expected. It's been a weird enough first few weeks - Sligo, Pat's and Derry all in the bottom half, and Bohs, UCD and Drogheda all in the top half as of two weeks ago.
Edit - I see Athlone only named three subs tonight. WTF?!
Lim till i die
21/04/2014, 9:57 PM
Edit - I see Athlone only named three subs tonight. WTF?!
There was actually nine subs.
Six of them didnt scan.
PartySaint
21/04/2014, 10:21 PM
Drogheda vs Pats
Chris Forrester is a genius..That is all
Charlie Darwin
21/04/2014, 10:37 PM
Not sure why people are arguing Dennehy didn't deserve to be sent off. He completely took him out, nowhere close to the ball.
NeverFeltBetter
21/04/2014, 10:39 PM
The view from Soccer Republic wasn't the best, but it certainly appears as if he went studs first into his right leg. Ref had a better view than the cameras. Had to be a red.
ger121
21/04/2014, 11:10 PM
What a goal by Forrester.
CityRebel
21/04/2014, 11:33 PM
Dennehy's red card was ridiculous. It was a deliberate foul and deserved a yellow card, but it wasn't serious foul play, it wasn't from behind, and he wasn't the last man.
geysir
21/04/2014, 11:46 PM
Outrageous goal by Forrester. Jason Byrne's on Friday was sublime.
Didn't look a penalty for Dundalk at Athlone. It wasn't a perfect shoulder to shoulder challenge but not enough of a deviation to think it called for a penalty.
MeathDrog
22/04/2014, 12:00 AM
LOL @ the Cork fans. Put away the tinted glasses. He took him out of it.
NeverFeltBetter
22/04/2014, 12:12 AM
Dennehy's red card was ridiculous. It was a deliberate foul and deserved a yellow card, but it wasn't serious foul play, it wasn't from behind, and he wasn't the last man.
If he went studs first onto that guys leg/knee, its absolutely serious foul play and it absolutely deserved a red card. Not being the last man or from behind is irrelevant. At some point football fans are going to realise that stud first challenges are no longer acceptable.
Now, if he jumped in but went ahead of the leg and collided with the shin, that's probably just yellow worthy. I can't say with a 100% certainty because the tv angle wasn't clear. But the ref had a much better view than I had, so I'm inclined to trust his judgement.
It's not just Cork fans saying it.
Our forum seems to be 50/50 definite red vs should have been a yellow.
Great result to come away with the win after being down to 10 for most of the game.
Keen2win
22/04/2014, 7:34 AM
Well if that is the consensus of the forum, you have no right arguing that it definitely wasn't a red!
Poor Athlone!
pineapple stu
22/04/2014, 8:46 AM
I'll have to take the offside back anyway; Hughie Douglas on the line was playing both on.
But that tackle looks even worse close up. Really indefensible. Even comes across with the wrong leg to add to the clumsiness. Genuine leg-breaker.
Anyways, to Derry.
bluewhitearmy
22/04/2014, 11:34 AM
The ref in our game was an absolute disgrace. Never in a million years a penalty. We deserved at least a point. Alot going on in the tunnel after the final whistle with a few bust ups being reported.
It wasn't a pen but then they should have had a definite pen that wasn't given so ye can't really complain.
football fan
22/04/2014, 12:00 PM
Stu, you do realise that there has to be two players between the attacker and goal. Your goalkeeper is off his line.
pineapple stu
22/04/2014, 12:29 PM
I did actually, but I completely forgot! Thanks. Blatant offside so. I suppose they're interfering by virtue of being in the way of the defender clearing the ball easier? Cos you could argue the ball was going in anyway.
I remember a similar incident when Southampton were in the FA Cup semi a few years back; the linesman gave offside and I was confused, but the co-commentator explained it almost straight away. I remember thinking it was one of the few times I'd ever heard a co-commentator add something useful. And then forgot about it until you reminded me!
KeepersBall
22/04/2014, 2:10 PM
Drogheda vs Pats
Chris Forrester is a genius..That is all
He may well be, but Dave Ryan is conclusively proving NOT to be a goalkeeper.
I wouldn't question his starting position as he was int he right place in relation to where the ball was at that moment.
However he is six foot five and should have moved his feet quicker to get back to it.
The balls was in the air a long time, he should have saved it, although it was a very good strike, the odds were in favour of the 'keeper.
Sheridan
22/04/2014, 2:23 PM
Forrester's second goal was way better than his first (which was a great effort, but ruined aesthetically by the laughable miscues which preceded it).
White Horse
22/04/2014, 2:31 PM
He may well be, but Dave Ryan is conclusively proving NOT to be a goalkeeper.
I wouldn't question his starting position as he was int he right place in relation to where the ball was at that moment.
However he is six foot five and should have moved his feet quicker to get back to it.
The balls was in the air a long time, he should have saved it, although it was a very good strike, the odds were in favour of the 'keeper.
Drogheda need Schlingerman back quickly.
Quick thinking and good execution by Forrester but a better goal keeper would have caught it easily.
El-Pietro
22/04/2014, 2:32 PM
He may well be, but Dave Ryan is conclusively proving NOT to be a goalkeeper.
I wouldn't question his starting position as he was int he right place in relation to where the ball was at that moment.
However he is six foot five and should have moved his feet quicker to get back to it.
The balls was in the air a long time, he should have saved it, although it was a very good strike, the odds were in favour of the 'keeper.
Ryan was very poor for Billy Dennehys free kick at the Cross on Friday. He gets set, then moves too early in the wrong direction and so cant get back across to stop the shot.
MeathDrog
22/04/2014, 3:04 PM
I think we can come to the conclusion that any sub keeper in the LOI is going to be poor.
NeverFeltBetter
22/04/2014, 3:16 PM
Better to stick some random outfield player in goal, as some have recently proved!
A couple of fans let Ryan know that he could have done better on Forrester's goal and he gave them the finger. He has done himself no favours since he's been in the side.
Charlie Darwin
22/04/2014, 3:23 PM
I think we can come to the conclusion that any sub keeper in the LOI is going to be poor.
Brush could start for most teams. Gilmartin is good too and Hyland looks promising any time I've seen him. Sava is gone out of fashion but he's an able back-up at Dundalk.
NeverFeltBetter
22/04/2014, 3:32 PM
Never had many complaints about Shane Cusack at Limerick either.
This year Cusack did it ok, but last year he was terrible.
Curious to see how Mcguiness got the place of Redmond in Bray good for the kid
NeverFeltBetter
22/04/2014, 3:55 PM
Cusack's not Barry Ryan, but nobody panics if they see his name in the teamsheet. He was average last year, and filled a gap.
PartySaint
22/04/2014, 4:36 PM
Brush could start for most teams. Gilmartin is good too and Hyland looks promising any time I've seen him. Sava is gone out of fashion but he's an able back-up at Dundalk.
Gilmartin is awful.
Not just Forresters goals were great but his all round play was excellent, his pass to Conan Byrne for our 3rd goal was superb and at one stage himself and Brennan were just taking the **** out of 4 Drogheda players in the corner for about 2 minutes, they couldn't get close to the ball.
nigel-harps1954
22/04/2014, 4:39 PM
I'm of the opinion that Harps sub keeper is twice the goalkeeper of our first choice, but less experienced and a bit younger. Even more bewildering, our assistant manager is one of the best keepers Finn Park has ever seen, and still young enough to make a solid contribution to the team.
OldNassau
22/04/2014, 4:46 PM
On that note, it's interesting that the league has very quickly reverted somewhat to expectations; only Derry and Drogheda in the opposite half of the league to what was expected. It's been a weird enough first few weeks - Sligo, Pat's and Derry all in the bottom half, and Bohs, UCD and Drogheda all in the top half as of two weeks ago.
Edit - I see Athlone only named three subs tonight. WTF?!
Town’s squad stands at 22, eleven started plus 3 subs named. The other 8 were the following:
Suspended: Alan Byrne, Declan Prendergast and Paul Skinner.
Injured: Neil Harney, Aidan Collins.
Niall Scullion, David Brookes Paddy Dunican U19 keeper. (do not know where these players were)
Brookes was a token local signing by Cooke who has never featured. Local players seem to have been totally ignored by him and it is a disgrace that he seems to have no U19 players available to sit on the bench. Another match with no sub keeper. How long more can Cooke last?
KeepersBall
22/04/2014, 4:55 PM
Meath Drog that is deffo not true.
Stephen McGuinness was Brays reserve until Shane Redmond got sent off, and he's now grabbed the number one shirt and held it despite Redmond being available. Basil Brush down at Sligo is not a bad deputy for Rogers, Pat Jennings wouldn't be a bad replacement for Clarke at Pats. Ciaran Gallagher can step in and do a job at Derry, Rovers have three adequate 'keepers, Athlone have two okay ones.
It's just us at the Drogs that have a dodgy stand in, and the first choice is not all that hot either.
MeathDrog
22/04/2014, 4:55 PM
Town’s squad stands at 22, eleven started plus 3 subs named. The other 8 were the following:
Suspended: Alan Byrne, Declan Prendergast and Paul Skinner.
Injured: Neil Harney, Aidan Collins.
Niall Scullion, David Brookes Paddy Dunican U19 keeper. (do not know where these players were)
Brookes was a token local signing by Cooke who has never featured. Local players seem to have been totally ignored by him and it is a disgrace that he seems to have no U19 players available to sit on the bench. Another match with no sub keeper. How long more can Cooke last?
Perhaps the local players aren't good enough?
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