Euro 2016 Qualifying

[Stuttgart88]

I was the youngest punter there by about 30 years. And I'm old enough to be Bonnie's dad.

[BonnieShels]

I was the youngest punter there by about 30 years. And I'm old enough to be Bonnie's dad.

*shudders*

You lied about your age in that case. :)

[DannyInvincible]

Interesting to see that none of the posters who jumped to Gather Round's defense earlier had any comment to make on this hyperbolic trolling nonsense.

The difference is that the latter was idle banter; I know that geysir doesn't actually believe that. Gather Round knows he doesn't believe that. It was what people with a sense of humour would call a joke. Think of the nonsensical hyperbole you managed to identify as the clue.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Even if he did, what of it? It's entirely in keeping with the paranoia on that site and of GR, on occasion (and far worse), as I said up thread.

And 'trolling nonsense' ? Seriously, that is unworthy of further comment.

[osarusan]

The difference is that the latter was idle banter; I know that geysir doesn't actually believe that. Gather Round knows he doesn't believe that. It was what people with a sense of humour would call a joke. Think of the nonsensical hyperbole you managed to identify as the clue.

That is how you interpreted it. Sure it's just banter.

I see it differently, especially from a poster who has made needlessly antagonistic posts regarding the IFA, NI, and their supporters in the past.

[ArdeeBhoy]

A trip to an opticians may then be in order?
:rolleyes:

You clearly forget the 'needlessly antagonistic' material coming in the other direction...

[geysir]

That is how you interpreted it. Sure it's just banter.

I see it differently, especially from a poster who has made needlessly antagonistic posts regarding the IFA, NI, and their supporters in the past.
Gather Round will be so touched by your sensitivity for his feelings, but why the selectivity here, why ignore my suspect posts about FAI, ROI, and some of their supporters?
Afaia, the last time GR got wound up here was when Taoiseach Kenny put his foot in it. One could say the paranoia factor went on red high alert in response to.... eh.... a throwawy comment from a Mayo bogman, hardly an armageddon threat, but the OWC can't tell the difference between a Kenny throwaway comment on an AI team for a charity and a threat of armageddon, it's one and the same thing, it equates to same end result for the OWC, namely the slippery path to annihilation. That's paranoia for you.

I'm not a goody goody type, if some foolish people dogmatically and deliberately persist with ignoring absurdity even when its explained, just so they can be all self righteous and offended, then one can't legislate for that. One can legislate for gratuitous insults delivered with prejudice or delivered out of ignorance. I have an appropriate understanding of political correctness, not a stupid one that takes words out of context, just to be insulted.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Geysir, don't encourage him...

[osarusan]

Gather Round will be so touched by your sensitivity for his feelings, but why the selectivity here, why ignore my suspect posts about FAI, ROI, and some of their supporters?

Perhaps because for the most part, I'd be broadly in agreement with you, and even when we're not in agreement (which has been the case plenty of times), I have no problem with your posts.

But when it comes to the issue of OWC or whatever it is about IFA/NI/Gather Round that gets you riled up, you can on occasion go over the top and post what I described as needlessly antagonistic posts. I thought that the post I commented was one of those posts (hence the comment).

The rest of your post mainly describes the content of the eligibility thread over a few pages, as a result of Enda Kenny's comments. I don't really remember much about that (much ado about nothing is what I recall) but it would suggest that your comment yesterday was not quite the idle banter that Danny suggested it was - that you were actually getting a dig in. You may feel it was relevant or justified. I obviously don't.

All this is beside the point to some extent anyway, as my main reason for making the comment was to point out the lack of response to your post. TOWK had made some silly comments about Gather Round, and quite a few posters had felt it worthwhile to set him straight. I'd consider your post to have been more insulting, and thought that the silence (message-board silence at least) was interesting.

[CraftyToePoke]

I'd consider your post to have been more insulting, and thought that the silence (message-board silence at least) was interesting.

It only takes for good men to do nothing for evil to prosper eh osarusan ? :)

[DannyInvincible]

I'd consider your post to have been more insulting, and thought that the silence (message-board silence at least) was interesting.

So you keep saying. What do you perceive it to indicate?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Attention-seeking?

[osarusan]

So you keep saying. What do you perceive it to indicate?

Hypocrisy or double standards perhaps? Or maybe simply an unwillingness to challenge an established and respected poster in that way?

[back of the net]

Except you asked the question...

I asked the question assuming you would have a credible answer as to the reasons for your assumptions/accusations on the majority of members on this forum


Unfortunately my assumption failed to materialise

[SwanVsDalton]

Hypocrisy or double standards perhaps? Or maybe simply an unwillingness to challenge an established and respected poster in that way?

Geysir and GR have an established relationship over hundreds of posts, and both are hearty contributors to the Eligibility Thread. If Geysir goes OTT on GR, then GR can handle himself and vice-versa.

The same can't be said of TOWK who is a relative newbie but who appeared to use the eligibility posts of GR as a stick to beat him, even though his familiarity with the thread is unclear and most likely questionable. That'd be my take on why people were keen to set him straight on GR.

[paul_oshea]

I asked the question assuming you would have a credible answer as to the reasons for your assumptions/accusations on the majority of members on this forum


Unfortunately my assumption failed to materialise

His assumption is probably based on the fact that those on here he never meets at these kind of away games. There literally are only a couple of hundred at most at these types of games and you get to know them all. Now if he tried the same BotNet at say Scotland away i dont think he could identify them all.

You see the same faces and very qiuckly you learn if they are on foot.ie or ybig.ie. I've met a lot of the regular posters on here and most dont go to away games, 1 maybe or at most 2 a campaign. Id say its 9:1 those you would meet off ybig.ie(compared with foot.ie) for example.

[back of the net]

His assumption is probably based on the fact that those on here he never meets at these kind of away games. There literally are only a couple of hundred at most at these types of games and you get to know them all. Now if he tried the same BotNet at say Scotland away i dont think he could identify them all.

You see the same faces and very qiuckly you learn if they are on foot.ie or ybig.ie. I've met a lot of the regular posters on here and most dont go to away games, 1 maybe or at most 2 a campaign. Id say its 9:1 those you would meet off ybig.ie(compared with foot.ie) for example.



With the greatest of respect Paul - I think to assume based on that logic is ridiculous - but thats my opinion


We will agree to disagree on this one

[osarusan]

The same can't be said of TOWK who is a relative newbie but who appeared to use the eligibility posts of GR as a stick to beat him, even though his familiarity with the thread is unclear and most likely questionable. That'd be my take on why people were keen to set him straight on GR.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I mean, TOWK's comments prompted quite a few posters to point out GR's respectful posting, lack of sectarianism, lack of wumming, worthwhile contributions, all round top guy in fact. Then GR gets portrayed as the paranoid protector of OWC, but nobody seems bothered. I don't see how they fit.

Anyhow, I've said what I wanted to say. As you commented, GR can handle himself if he chooses to.

Back on topic: the group could have been worse, but it's hard to gauge Ireland in comparison to Scotland or Poland without seeing us play a few more times under O'Neill. We probably have a better idea of what Poland and Scotland are capable of than we do of our own team right now.

[SwanVsDalton]

Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I mean, TOWK's comments prompted quite a few posters to point out GR's respectful posting, lack of sectarianism, lack of wumming, worthwhile contributions, all round top guy in fact. Then GR gets portrayed as the paranoid protector of OWC, but nobody seems bothered. I don't see how they fit.

Possibly they don't - although I guess it wouldn't be the first apparent contradiction in the many, many, many posts written about eligibility, the IFA, FAI, UEFA, FIFA etc etc ;)

[geysir]

I mean, Paul's an established poster, but it certainly wouldn't stop me pulling him up on his bull now and again. Whether or not he's a respected member is another question, mind, I'll grant you that! :p
I'm glad you mentioned Paul here, because in all the hullabaloo about that rascal Gather Round (attention which he certainly doesn't deserve), it's too easy to hide the concerted campaign of bullying that Paul has had to endure here at the hands of certain cruel hearted posters. And now you Danny have the cheek to imply that Paul's 'deviant' behaviour is at fault here, that he deserves what he gets and that your part in this campaign is an act of generosity merely to rectify his behaviour.