View Full Version : Derry City V Cork City
kevincronin2000
23/10/2004, 10:33 AM
This is now the most important game of the season. Derry is always a tricky place to get a result. In the past we always tended to look at getting a point as a good result. But this time around a point may not be good enough as it would mean shelbourne would need to loose another game aswell as loosing to us. This would be a tall order as there are few games left and alot of the teams have nothing to play for in the leauge so they might be easy targets where we have the Drogs to play twice who will be fighting for a Uefa/intertoto place.
DolansWaistcoat
23/10/2004, 12:34 PM
Our next two games are the most important games we've played in years,and(fingers and toes crossed)we manage to win them the two games after that will the the most important games in years and so on.
City winning at the brandywell and then winning at tolka a few days later would be nothing short of a miracle most years but the run we're on now gives us every chance of doing it.
One game at time for the rebel army! :cool:
Forget about $hels, this is the only game that matters for now. Derry have beaten $hels, Bohs and Drogs over the last few weeks. They have a young side, playing for contracts for next season and a shrewd manager in Kenny.
This is a tougher game for us than $hels. I expect the team need no motivation for Tolka, but Derry on a Tuesday night is not quite the same thing.
I reckon this is where we will come unstuck. The Brandywell is not a ground that we do very well at, and I cannot see us getting more than a point....:(
DolansWaistcoat
23/10/2004, 3:59 PM
If the players can't get motivated and play their best against Derry then they don't deserve the title.
If they draw or lose against Derry then the league will be over and what happens in Tolka won't matter a bit,so the pressure will be off and City might beat shels but it will all be in vain because we have to winevery single game imo.
If the boys don't give their all tues night it's over,but I know they will give everything they have to win it and if thats not enough to beat Derry then next year we'll be back stronger.
Derry is a game we can win..i dont care who they have beat recently because with the way City are playing we can beat anyone in this league home/away..yes Derry has always been a very tough venue for any team but we have won there before and we can again..i dont understand people say in one thread how great we are and then in another thread say we will lose up there..be confident boys..we can win Tuesday with the team we have but it will be very tough...
And as Dolans Waiscoat said earlier...ONE GAME AT THE TIME! :)
I didn't say that City would lose up in Derry, just that this is going to be a very, very difficult game for a must win. A lot of posters are looking ahead to Friday night, when ththe Derry could make Friday academic.
I just think we should take it one game at a time, and this one comes first and not be getting ahead of ourselves.
Patsh..of course it will be very difficult up in Derry and everyone knows that..but after winning six in a row and playing very well we have good reason to be optimistic about the game..i dont think its a case of getting ahead of ourselves because there are only a handful of games left and people are genuinely getting excited with our chances..if there were 20 games left it could be said people are getting ahead of themselves but certainly not at this stage..time to be optimistic and as you,i and others do agree one game at the time..but isnt it hard.. :)
Fair_play_boy
23/10/2004, 9:14 PM
If they draw or lose against Derry then the league will be over and what happens in Tolka won't matter a bit . . . How often have we read this? After Shels beat City 1-nil in Turners Cross in August, it was doom and gloom, season over, etc. Now look at us.
Éanna
23/10/2004, 10:25 PM
I think if we were to get 4 points out of the next 2 games it would be a good return and we'd still have a chance. If we got 6 points I think we'd definitely win the league, but 4 points wouldn't leave us too far off. Derry will be a very difficult game, but i thin we can do it, provided we don't do our usual of defending ridiculously deep up there.
A draw or defeat wouldn't end things but would eman have to beat shel$ for title ambitions.
Derry have only scored 7 in 14 home league games all season & we've got more points away from home than they've got at home so can me optimistic. 1-0 to city would do nicely.
1-0 to city would do nicely.
1 - 0 to City would mean 3 points.
Lads, i reckon a loss to Derry wouldnt be the end of the world. City will drop points before the end of the season. A draw will be a good result and will still make the game with Shels a 6 pointer. Obviously a win would be amazing.
adamd164
25/10/2004, 9:30 AM
Does anyone know if the team are going up today and staying in Derry tonight? I think that would be the sensible option - do a light training session tomorrow morning. It's a very long trip for the players to make hours before playing Derry away from home, they could be tired and fatigued, and we obviously want to increase our chances of winning as much as possible.
I can't wait for it though, for the first time in years going up there, I see us winning! :cool:
DolansWaistcoat
25/10/2004, 11:57 AM
How often have we read this? After Shels beat City 1-nil in Turners Cross in August, it was doom and gloom, season over, etc. Now look at us.
This is our game in hand and we are 7 points behindwhen only a few games left and still have to go to shels which we all know isn't our favourite place to go when looking for points,so I think it's fair to say that if we don't beat Derry then our chances are all but over.
Does anyone know if the team are going up today and staying in Derry tonight?
i was told they're gone up today. makes sense really
Just seen on the official site that Ian Stokes is ref for the Derry game. don't like the look of that, the man has a grudge against us and has given a few penalties against us already this season. Also, Kearney is a doubt. Wonder is that a real doubt or a dolan doubt :D
Fair_play_boy
25/10/2004, 5:50 PM
Just seen on the official site that Ian Stokes is ref for the Derry game. don't like the look of that, the man has a grudge against us and has given a few penalties against us already this season. Also, Kearney is a doubt. Wonder is that a real doubt or a dolan doubt :DKearney travelled up this afternoon, AFAIK. LOL @ Real Doubt -v- Dolan Doubt. :D
i was told they're gone up today. makes sense really
I know they definately flew out of Cork airport at 4pm today.
However, I'm not sure if they are flying directly or if they are flying to Dublin and bus to Derry in the morning.
Wouldnt it make more sense to fly to Belfast?Dont aer arann have a service to there from Cork?
Éanna
25/10/2004, 10:40 PM
they were staying overnight in derry. must have flown to belfast so i guess
dancinpants
25/10/2004, 11:03 PM
A draw or defeat wouldn't end things but would eman have to beat shel$ for title ambitions.
Derry have only scored 7 in 14 home league games all season & we've got more points away from home than they've got at home so can me optimistic. 1-0 to city would do nicely.
If this is how we decide the likely outcome of a game then you should know that we havent been beaten at home since may 29th. We have only been beaten 3 times at home all season. We've got the best defence in the country. Bohs and Shels were both restricted to ONE shot on target. Bohs took a 14 game unbeaten run into their match against us in Dalyer and got beat.
I reckon a draw is the likely outcome. But be warned confidence is high, the quality of play is vastly improved and the team will feel more than capable of getting the 3 points.
thecorner
25/10/2004, 11:07 PM
If this is how we decide the likely outcome of a game then you should know that we havent been beaten at home since may 29th.
and arsenal werent beaten for 49 league games ;)
dancinpants
25/10/2004, 11:08 PM
and arsenal werent beaten for 49 league games ;)
Thats my point corner!!. Unbeaten runs and winning streaks is no way to judge how a match will turn out especially when both teams are playing probably their best football of the season!!!
thecorner
25/10/2004, 11:11 PM
and they also must come to an end sometime ;)
Fair_play_boy
25/10/2004, 11:13 PM
If this is how we decide the likely outcome of a game then you should know that we havent been beaten at home since may 29th. We have only been beaten 3 times at home all season. We've got the best defence in the country. Bohs and Shels were both restricted to ONE shot on target. Bohs took a 14 game unbeaten run into their match against us in Dalyer and got beat.
I reckon a draw is the likely outcome. But be warned confidence is high, the quality of play is vastly improved and the team will feel more than capable of getting the 3 points.Cráp I don't like the sound of that. :( Ah, but we are only unbeaten for 6 games, so we have a few left in us yet, I reckon. ;)
City Hero
25/10/2004, 11:16 PM
If this is how we decide the likely outcome of a game then you should know that we havent been beaten at home since may 29th. We have only been beaten 3 times at home all season. We've got the best defence in the country. Bohs and Shels were both restricted to ONE shot on target. Bohs took a 14 game unbeaten run into their match against us in Dalyer and got beat.
I reckon a draw is the likely outcome. But be warned confidence is high, the quality of play is vastly improved and the team will feel more than capable of getting the 3 points.
I suppose you wouldn't just give us the 6 points for the 2 remaining games between the teams. It would save all this messy travelling from one end of the country to the other, and it would give us a good chance of catching Shels. Now wouldn't everyone like to see them beaten to the title.
It's not like Derry will make one of the European spots, and we just beat the 3 teams below ye and the team above ye in the league table.
Ah go on do us a favour.
thecorner
25/10/2004, 11:17 PM
lets hope that it is a entertaining game of football and hopefully it will go corks way :D
TBH id be ecstatic with a dour 1-0 to city(cork city)
I'm looking forward to this one alright. We're due a result in the Brandywell at this stage. It's going to be as difficult as always though I'd say. I'd nearly take a draw tomorrow if it meant we'd beat Shels on Friday, however six points this week would send me into orbit!!
A big cheer for What Biy who has relieved me of my driving responsibilities for tomorrow. After driving to Longford last week and Landsdowne the week before I'm due a break! I can get p!ssed now!! Nice one What Biy! ;) :D
paudie
26/10/2004, 12:26 PM
Realistically we need a win tonight.
If we draw and beat Shels we'll still be three points down with four tough games left.
Its important we impose ourselves on Derry early tonight, like we did against Pats.
We've scored in the first 20-25 minutes in the last 4 games and we need to do that again.
Derry might be playing well but they really don't have anything to play for so hopefully our greater motivation will be the key to a win.
MariborKev
26/10/2004, 1:05 PM
No motivation apart from the fact that most of them are out of contract in the summer. :D
Derry might be playing well but they really don't have anything to play for so hopefully our greater motivation will be the key to a win.Lets not fool ourselves. Derry want the three points just as much as us.
paudie
26/10/2004, 1:32 PM
Lets not fool ourselves. Derry want the three points just as much as us.
Hopefully our players will be motivated so that they DO want the the three points more than Derry.
A face
26/10/2004, 5:10 PM
Lads .... one point would be a good result up there.
If we lose ... we'll have all those losers out of the woodwork again, the sad bástards will be queing up to get there one-liners in.
Three points is a big ask ..... and if we were to manage it, we should be damn glad of it.
Peadar
26/10/2004, 5:12 PM
Lads, I've a knot in my stomach over this game.
Isn't it great to have something to get nervous/excited about at this stage of the season!?
Come on City! ;)
thecorner
26/10/2004, 5:23 PM
season has been a success already with us having something to play for with a couple of games to go
wouldnt see a draw here tonite as the end of the world, beat shels then and hope they lose one more
then its still game on
dancinpants
26/10/2004, 5:51 PM
Are youse kinda regretting yer Inter-toto run? Great memories and results and all that, but do youse think ye might have been top of the table now (or atleast alot closer to Shels) had it not been for the Euro adventure?
I reckon so meself. What about youse?
thecorner
26/10/2004, 5:52 PM
Are youse kinda regretting yer Inter-toto run? Great memories and results and all that, but do youse think ye might have been top of the table now (or atleast alot closer to Shels) had it not been for the Euro adventure?
I reckon so meself. What about youse?
wouldnt change for the world
we dont know if it had a bearing on our league form...we will never know.
but i wouldnt change a thing
great run in europe..still challenging for the league...good season
Are youse kinda regretting yer Inter-toto run? Great memories and results and all that, but do youse think ye might have been top of the table now (or atleast alot closer to Shels) had it not been for the Euro adventure?
I reckon so meself. What about youse?
I think so too. There's always next year. Forget about Europe next year, concentrate on the League and Cup double.
tiktok
26/10/2004, 5:56 PM
Are youse kinda regretting yer Inter-toto run? Great memories and results and all that, but do youse think ye might have been top of the table now (or atleast alot closer to Shels) had it not been for the Euro adventure?
I reckon so meself. What about youse?
Hard to say, we were fourteen unbeaten on the spin when the inter-toto started and it has taken us a long long time to find that form again. but at the same time, we've only won one against Drogs/Shels/Bohs before or after the inter-toto and when it comes down to it, those dropped points is really where our season was won and lost. :(
thejollyrodger
26/10/2004, 6:06 PM
The Shels Cork City game should be on the telly !!
Its going to be intresting stuff tonight !!
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