View Full Version : FC Vaduz 2-2 PORTUGAL
De Town
10/10/2004, 9:53 PM
So all of those people critisising(spelling) our performance against Vaduz, They drew with Euro 2004 finalists Portugal last night. Wonder how Cork and Shels would get on against Portugal???
Longfordian
10/10/2004, 10:08 PM
Yep. 9 of the FC Vaduz squad are in the Liechtenstein squad and they have the same manager, also some regulars for Liechtenstein cant get their place in the Vaduz side. They're no mugs, I've said that all along.
De Town
10/10/2004, 10:10 PM
And 3 of the Vaduz players scored, albeit 1 of them being an o.g. :o
eoinh
10/10/2004, 10:21 PM
Overview according to opponents
Austria 6 0 0 6 0-26 0
Azerbaijan 2 1 0 1 2- 5 3
Bosnia-H. 3 0 1 2 0- 8 1
China 1 1 0 0 2- 0 3
Estonia 1 0 0 1 0- 2 0
Faeroe 3 0 0 3 0- 5 0
Germany 2 0 0 2 3-17 0
Hungary 2 0 1 1 0- 5 1
Iceland 2 0 0 2 0- 8 0
Indonesia 1 1 0 0 3- 2 3
Ireland(Rep.of) 4 0 1 3 0-14 1
Israel 2 0 0 2 0- 5 0
Latvia 3 0 0 3 0- 4 0
Lithuania 2 0 0 2 1- 4 0
Luxemburg 1 0 1 0 3- 3 1
Macedonia 3 0 1 2 2-15 1
Malaysia 1 1 0 0 1- 0 3
Malta 1 0 1 0 1- 1 1
Northern Ireland 3 0 1 2 1- 8 1
Portugal 4 0 0 4 0-28 0
Romania 4 0 0 4 1-26 0
Slovakia 2 0 0 2 0- 6 0
Spain 2 0 0 2 0- 7 0
Switzerland 3 0 0 3 0- 9 0
Thailand 1 0 0 1 0- 2 0
Turkey 1 0 0 1 0- 5 0
USA 1 0 0 1 1- 4 0
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61 4 7 50 22-219 19
Liectenstein results through the years.
BTW most of their "best" players dont play for Vaduz
Not udated for the last match
Longfordian
11/10/2004, 1:08 AM
78.2% of statistics are made up on the spot.. :D I still say that Vaduz were no mugs and I'll continue to say that, based on my view of what constitutes a good team. I could say to you that most of Vaduz's best players aren't from Liechtenstein, they've 11 different nationalities in their squad. Eoin you've never seen them play, i have twice, as I've seen every Eircom Premier Division team at least twice this season and i'm telling you by eL standards this current FC Vaduz team are not a bad side and would beat or at least go close to beating most Premier Division teams. You don't spend €2.4m every year and be a joke side. You read far too much into history and not enough into current circumstances, they've said themselves they've only started pumping proper money in in the past two years.
Dont mean to go on about this but Vaduz signed three players for this season.
The great Eyke Bismark from Fiorentina, the even greater Thomas Weller from Winterthur (From who?) and the fantastic Eduardo dos Santos (Isnt that Peles real name) from Wohlen.
Dont mean to go on about this but Vaduz signed three players for this season.
The great Eyke Bismark from Fiorentina, the even greater Thomas Weller from Winterthur (From who?) and the fantastic Eduardo dos Santos (Isnt that Peles real name) from Wohlen.
And your point is.Judging players on the fact that you havnt heard of the club they were signed from?
higgins
12/10/2004, 12:24 AM
point is there was 80 teams in the 1st qualifying round of the UEFA Cup and you lost to the 80th best team!!!
There is no hiding behind that fact,,,
The fact that you even think that its ok to be beaten by a side in the swiss 2nd division shows how serious you actually took the game :confused:
As I have said before,
Longford seemed to approach the game thinking they would lose and all the pre match comments and after game analysis suggest that they didnt take themselves seriously enough and suffered because of it...
If you are not ambitious enough to beat the lowest ranked team i Europe this year then who exactly do you want to draw next season if you get there?
pineapple stu
12/10/2004, 6:38 PM
point is there were 80 teams in the 1st qualifying round of the UEFA Cup and you lost to the 80th best team!!!
What complete rubbish! :rolleyes: Even before this season, Liechtenstein were ranked 43rd of 52 countries in Europe, so I can't see how Vauz can be the worst team in Europe!
Maybe (though it's unlikely) you mean they were 80th of 80 seeded teams, which still means they were seeded higher than Longford and so would have been expected to win.
Who was the seeded team, incidentally?
the 12 th man
12/10/2004, 7:37 PM
Who was the seeded team, incidentally?
think it was us ,
but as as been said here ad nauseum (by people who actually were there),
that on that night they would have given ANY e/l team a fright.
higgins
13/10/2004, 12:28 AM
opps
hands up!!
I was wrong about them being the lowest seeds..
But they were very close to being the lowest seeds
Longford were the Seeded side and they failed to beat that rubbish and didnt seem to care that they didnt win either which was a big worry...
Longford were the Seeded side and they failed to beat that rubbish and didnt seem to care that they didnt win either which was a big worry...
Yeah we lost to a full time team, with a playing budget multiplies of ours. What a disgrace we are.... :rolleyes:
Wiseguy
13/10/2004, 8:29 AM
The way i see it is like this.Every club has it's bad night in Europe and LTFC were in the middle of a terrible run at the time.This was only LTFC's second european experience.Vaduz were not that bad of a side and were a full time side which is a definite advantage over LTFC but the bottom line is LTFC just did not perform over the 2 legs.After an average performance in the 1st leg we conceeded an early away goal in Flancare and that was it.Everyone who was at that match was disapointed in the LTFC performance but we did not disgrace the EL.Now that Cork & Shels are the kings of europe i'm sure they will never have a bad night in europe again.
Stop kidding ourselves it was a disgrace to us and the league that vaduz beat us. It looks as though the only ones that don't see that are the people posting above who are funnily enough are town fans. Lets face it it was an embarressment and thats that.
observer
13/10/2004, 11:35 AM
It has already been mentioned, but has consistently been ignored, that the Vaduz game was played at a time when the team was playing crap and confidence was at a low ebb. We were in serious relegation type trouble at the time which was a far more serious issue than Europe.
We were in as suitable a state to play an important match then, as say ... Drogheda would be now. :p
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 12:00 PM
I'm not a Longford fan and I defend the Vaduz game. The Swiss Premier Division (Super League I think it's called) though not one of Europe's top leagues would be on a tier several levels higher than us. Therefore their first division is probably on the level of or a bit better than the eL. Vaduz are a highly ambitous club who finished second in this league last year and are only 3 points off the top this year. Yes eL clubs should aspire to be better than the Swiss 1st Division but we should not make out it was a humiliation for us. Disappointment yes, but Longford lost to a side with vastly more European experience, playing both in the UEFA and former Cup Winners Cup practically every season and the majority of their players playing international football every year.
:) Here here me auld son!
I'm sure the swiss super league is better than ours but its a shame vaduz play in the league below it. So they aren't in the top league.
Rover 2 U
13/10/2004, 3:40 PM
What a stupid tread. We lost to them, but then they beat them, then some of them beat them, and then they lost to them, so that makes us great?
:rolleyes:
Roll on Saturday till we see what your made of!
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 3:56 PM
I'm sure the swiss super league is better than ours but its a shame vaduz play in the league below it. So they aren't in the top league.
But I think you'll clearly admit if Longford were drawn Millwall despite not being in the top league you would have to admit they'd be favourites and a better club (excluding the scum bag fans thing), so it has nothing to do about not being the top league but more to do with the quality of the division itself. Obviously losing to a Faoese 1st Division side woud be disgraceful but Vaduz are the next best team aside from the top flight in Switzerland which is a country who's domestic game is a fair bit stronger than ours. Coupled with this they are a team with an abundance of international and European experience.
Thats a completly different comparison. the english game is one of the strongest in europe and i think you will find the swiss is not
max power
13/10/2004, 4:10 PM
Thats a completly different comparison. the english game is one of the strongest in europe and i think you will find the swiss is not
neither is your a strong argument so give up ;) drum drum drum.....
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 4:50 PM
Thats a completly different comparison. the english game is one of the strongest in europe and i think you will find the swiss is not
I know it is. But you appeared to be dismissing my point as it was a league below the top one and my point was that is not a good enough point. If the league is equal to or worse than ours then obviously the First Division is worse. But if the league is better than ours then the First Division may be better than, equal to ours. Not to say this is the case as I am not very familiar with the Challenge League, but if the Super League is better than the Premier Division then it's hardly conceivable that the Challenge League is on a different planet to the eL.
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 7:30 PM
I am not following the logic of the original poster but none the less it is interesting to see Liechtenstein are currently beating Luxemburg 3-0 away as I type. It seems they are advancing as a footballing nation domestically and internationally.
chosen1
13/10/2004, 8:05 PM
Luxembourg 0-4 Liechenstein or Luxembourg 0-3 Vaduz if u prefer. Starting to think that "have you ever played vaduz" chant wasnt meant to be sarcasm!
This is getting so sad. They beat Luxembourg for gods sake.
When was the last time Luxembourg won a game? They met the Faroes recently and shipped four goals to them as well.
It seems they are advancing as a footballing nation domestically and internationally.
err no there not. The only club success they had was against mighty Longford
:rolleyes:
Luxembourgs recent results:-
Date Versus Venue Score Competition
24/02/2004 Faroe Islands Spain 2-4 Fr
20/11/2003 Moldova Luxembourg 1-2 Fr
11/10/2003 Norway Norway 0-1 Ecq
10/09/2003 Bosnia Luxembourg 0-1 Ecq
06/09/2003 Romania Romania 0-4 Ecq
19/08/2003 Malta Luxembourg 1-1 Fr
11/06/2003 Denmark Luxembourg 0-2 Ecq
30/04/2003 Hungary Hungary 1-5 Fr
02/04/2003 Norway Luxembourg 0-2 Ecq
29/03/2003 Bosnia Bosnia 0-2 Ecq
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 8:33 PM
This is getting so sad. They beat Luxembourg for gods sake.
When was the last time Luxembourg won a game? They met the Faroes recently and shipped four goals to them as well.
err no there not. The only club success they had was against mighty Longford
:rolleyes:
Luxembourgs recent results:-
Date Versus Venue Score Competition
24/02/2004 Faroe Islands Spain 2-4 Fr
20/11/2003 Moldova Luxembourg 1-2 Fr
11/10/2003 Norway Norway 0-1 Ecq
10/09/2003 Bosnia Luxembourg 0-1 Ecq
06/09/2003 Romania Romania 0-4 Ecq
19/08/2003 Malta Luxembourg 1-1 Fr
11/06/2003 Denmark Luxembourg 0-2 Ecq
30/04/2003 Hungary Hungary 1-5 Fr
02/04/2003 Norway Luxembourg 0-2 Ecq
29/03/2003 Bosnia Bosnia 0-2 Ecq
Errr, yes they are. When the hell do Liechtenstein ever win a game either!? Not only that but comprehensively away. In fact they have claimed 4 points for their last 6. When could they ever say that? And doesn't the fact that Vaduz have risen rapidly up the Swiss league to the verge of the top division as well as having finally progressed a round in Europe not represent advancement? No one is giving Longford a pat on the back for losing but the criticism they are getting considering the fact they are not even one of our most major clubs (no offense boys) I feel they deserve some defending. I hope they win the cup so they can get a chance to exorcise this ghost because as far as I'm concerned an anomoly led to them drawing a rather tough unseeded team.
Errr, yes they are. When the hell do Liechtenstein ever win a game either!?
If two crap teams meet each one of them is bound to win.
Poor Student
13/10/2004, 8:44 PM
If two crap teams meet each one of them is bound to win.
But given the fact the steamrollered them away and held Portugal to a draw, do you not call that progress? Have they ever even accumulated 4 points in a championship before?
If two crap teams meet each one of them is bound to win.
Sure but two good enough to qualify for proper European Competition. Can you give your stat-o-meter a rest and give us a break as this is just going around in circles now, we know the arguements...
1) They're a rising team. Full time, playing budget that beats any in the league. One game away from top flight swiss football.
2) Sure they've always done crap in Europe. Look at their history, look at the country they're from.
btw Eoin, you excluded the fact that before the rise of Liechtenstein in world football ( ;) ) that our national team couldn't beat them away from home...
NY Hoop
14/10/2004, 3:12 PM
Jesus christ on a moped. What utter tripe. Fact is you got beat by a team from Liechtenstein. I dont care if they then went on and beat Brazil!
The only Longford fan with any semblance of common sense here is techs. And before you think this is an anti longford post it isnt. If we had lost to vaduz in europe I would be the first one to say we embarrassed the league. Farcical thread.
KOH
max power
14/10/2004, 3:19 PM
personally any team who sold there ground, are homeless and can't afford to pay their players are an embaressment also, perhaps a bigger one.
we are the club most wanna be these days, ya don't here them saying, oh rovers are the club we want to aspire to be :rolleyes:
sorry if that sounds harsh, but if you weren't at either game you have no right to comment on a game u didn't even see. :mad:
NY Hoop
14/10/2004, 3:32 PM
personally any team who sold there ground, are homeless and can't afford to pay their players are an embaressment also, perhaps a bigger one.
The "team" didnt sell our beloved ground. Like most longford fans you seem to have a short memory. Lucifer kilcoyne did. Our club is an embarrassment at the moment. The dogs on the street know that. But considering we didnt lose to vaduz on footballing terms longford did embarrass the league. Re read my last line on my last thread.
we are the club most wanna be these days, ya don't here them saying, oh rovers are the club we want to aspire to be :rolleyes:
Only for what you did with your ground. With all due respect your ground is out in the middle of nowhere and I doubt very much you had planning permission problems, school next door moaning, residents protesting etc.
sorry if that sounds harsh, but if you weren't at either game you have no right to comment on a game u didn't even see. :mad:
I have every right to comment on those games. Guarantee if the shoe was on the other foot :eek:
Maybe if you could get around your anti Rovers stance and try to accept that ALL league clubs were let down by your "performances" in Europe.
Gee max hope you dont have any immigration problems getting into NY. There are enough warped minds there :D
KOH
max power
14/10/2004, 3:35 PM
I have every right to comment on those games. Guarantee if the shoe was on the other foot :eek:
Maybe if you could get around your anti Rovers stance and try to accept that ALL league clubs were let down by your "performances" in Europe.
Gee max hope you dont have any immigration problems getting into NY. There are enough warped minds there :D
KOH
i should be ok gettin in hoop :D
no the point is that how can you comment on a game you haven't seen ??
you have every right agreed , but your view are uninformed and pointless if you haven't seen the game in question.
btw behind all the rover sbashing i hope yee get your problems sorted.
NY Hoop
14/10/2004, 3:42 PM
btw behind all the rover sbashing i hope yee get your problems sorted.
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Aw thanks. Maybe you can buy me a pint saturday for having to read your crap!! :D
KOH
max power
14/10/2004, 3:44 PM
won't be there, afraid there might be a riot ;)
na have to work, but should be a good game anyway. but i think your safe after dc result on monday, well once there are no walk overs for the rest of the season.
NY Hoop
14/10/2004, 3:55 PM
Part timer! Wont be a walkover but there will be a picket by the players at the drogheda game if the they havent been sorted.
KOH
max power
14/10/2004, 3:58 PM
only right, fair play to the players for keeping the training etc up.
The only Longford fan with any semblance of common sense here is techs.
First time Techs has been accused of that!
techs
15/10/2004, 11:30 AM
Obviously NY hoop hasnt got the rose tinted glasses on like most people on this board
max power
15/10/2004, 2:22 PM
a rovers fan NOT wearing rose tinted glasses would be be amazing :D
NY Hoop
15/10/2004, 2:41 PM
a rovers fan NOT wearing rose tinted glasses would be be amazing :D
A longford fan who doesnt think they are the kings of Ireland would be amazing :D
KOH
max power
15/10/2004, 2:46 PM
:D
gods not kings !!!!
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