Matches 30/31 Aug & 3 Sept

[oriel]

PD games all on Friday
Cork v Derry
Shels v Rovers
UCD v DLK
Pats v Bohs
Drogs v Bray

PD Sat
Sligo v Limerick

Re-arranged games PD Tues
Derry v Pats
Drogs v Sligo

Although the Tuesday games are standing out, I have a feeling there might be a few twists on Friday night and one or two surprise results might occur.


FD games on Friday
Waterford v Longford
Athlone v Wexford
Salthill v Mervue

Saturday
Cobh v Finn Harps

[PartySaint]

On paper we should be beating Bohs but as they showed in our earlier game in Richmond, nothing is guaranteed.

I do believe if we win on Friday and Tuesday that we will win the league.

[Jofspring]

On paper we are goosed tomorrow.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

On paper we are goosed tomorrow.

But will ye be ok for Saturday?

[Jofspring]

But will ye be ok for Saturday?

Ah ya we'll bate ye out the gate Saturday.

[outspoken]

Can only see a draw from our game but with Des Hope possibly out for us we could be in big trouble. Hoping TC will surprise a few (including waterford) with his selection this weekend.

[nigel-harps1954]

Pick of the First Division games.......really? That's a bit harsh.

[ATFC-1887]

Pick of the First Division games.......really? That's a bit harsh.

Yeh its bad enough RTE etc forgetting there is a First Divison but for a fan of the league to do that haha Bit harsh indeed

[dong]

Pick of the First Division games.......really? That's a bit harsh.

The public gets what the public wants.

[Ezeikial]

Daniel McDonnell can have some strange observations when commenting on Shamrock Rovers. In the match previews in today's Indo he says
"If Rovers don't get a move on, then they are going to have to win the FAI Cup to get into Europe"

So with Rovers having 8 games left and 9 points behind 4th place Derry, who have a game in hand, he thinks Euro qualification through the league is still a possibility?

As Rovers know all too well even 4th place in the league is no guarantee of Europe

[oriel]

Pick of the First Division games.......really? That's a bit harsh.

Yep, in hindsight that was very '2fm style' ..............''and in the FD the pick of the games are.....

Fixed now

[oriel]

On paper we should be beating Bohs but as they showed in our earlier game in Richmond, nothing is guaranteed.

I do believe if we win on Friday and Tuesday that we will win the league.


You sound very confident. While winning both will defintely put you firmly in the driving seat, I would be waiting until at least after the home games v Dundalk (20/09) and Sligo (12/10) before even thinking this way.

Could be a lot of twists yet, and no reason Sligo can't force their way back into it either.

[patsdad]

You sound very confident. While winning both will defintely put you firmly in the driving seat, I would be waiting until at least after the home games v Dundalk (20/09) and Sligo (12/10) before even thinking this way.

Could be a lot of twists yet, and no reason Sligo can't force their way back into it either.

Those 2 wins, if we got them, would give us 59 points with 7 games left. Hard to lose it from there, especially with Dundalk and Sligo having to come to us.

[A face]

Happy with that, 4 passed Derry will do nicely, Morrissey is a gift to be fair.

[jinxy lilywhite]

On paper we should be beating Bohs but as they showed in our earlier game in Richmond, nothing is guaranteed.

I do believe if we win on Friday and Tuesday that we will win the league.

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Bring on the Drogs next week in OP

[Longfordian]

A 17 f***in point swing to Athlone now. Cousins is history. Should just pay him off now and get a new man in. He's been given every chance.

[TonyD]

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Bring on the Drogs next week in OP

Well, he did say if...and here's another one. If we win in the Brandywell on Tuesday (and there's no reason why we can't) a lot of the damage from tonight will be undone. There's still a distance to go, so I wouldn't be getting over excited yet. Tonight was frustrating, but Derby games can be like that, as you may well discover next week :p Anyhow, the 20th of September is looking like it's going to be some night!!

[White Horse]

Well, he did say if...and here's another one. If we win in the Brandywell on Tuesday (and there's no reason why we can't) a lot of the damage from tonight will be undone. There's still a distance to go, so I wouldn't be getting over excited yet. Tonight was frustrating, but Derby games can be like that, as you may well discover next week :p Anyhow, the 20th of September is looking like it's going to be some night!!

You are right. There is a long way to go and I expect a few more surprises.

That is why PartySaints post came as such a surprise. We have a difficult game against Drogheda next week. They are starting to produce the form and results they are capable of.

Nothing is won or lost yet, and it won't be for a good while.

[pineapple stu]

Bizarre sending off in UCD v Dundalk which mayn't have changed the outcome of the game, but certainly made things more straightforward for Dundalk. Be interesting if anyone can shed any light -

We had a sub lined up for the next stoppage. Mick Leahy went down injured in a challenge; ball came to our keeper, and he threw it out to let attention for Leahy come on. We made the first sub, but as that was being done, Leahy signalled to the bench that he couldn't continue, so Mick Kelly immediately togged out, a second slip of paper was given to the fourth official, Leahy went off, Kelly came on...and was booked for encroaching the field of play. I think the ref deemed that as Dundalk had taken their throw after the first sub, the second sub couldn't take place until the ball went out of play again. Why he couldn't have told Dundalk to wait until the two subs - which were clearly going to happen - had taken place, I don't know. Farcical one way or the other.

Anyways, five minutes later, Kelly got sent off for a (silly) challenge, Dundalk took the lead a few minutes later again and there was no way back for us.

[oriel]

Well, he did say if...and here's another one. If we win in the Brandywell on Tuesday (and there's no reason why we can't) a lot of the damage from tonight will be undone. There's still a distance to go, so I wouldn't be getting over excited yet. Tonight was frustrating, but Derby games can be like that, as you may well discover next week :p Anyhow, the 20th of September is looking like it's going to be some night!!

Now Tony, you know he was being cocky in his comment that he thought Pats 'will win the league' if they won those 2 games. Really strange thing to say with 8 games to go.

Pats 'possibly' still best placed, but its getting interesting now as i think we will push it to the last weekend, and not forgetting Sligo are still not too far behind.

[White Horse]

Bizarre sending off in UCD v Dundalk which mayn't have changed the outcome of the game, but certainly made things more straightforward for Dundalk. Be interesting if anyone can shed any light -

We had a sub lined up for the next stoppage. Mick Leahy went down injured in a challenge; ball came to our keeper, and he threw it out to let attention for Leahy come on. We made the first sub, but as that was being done, Leahy signalled to the bench that he couldn't continue, so Mick Kelly immediately togged out, a second slip of paper was given to the fourth official, Leahy went off, Kelly came on...and was booked for encroaching the field of play. I think the ref deemed that as Dundalk had taken their throw after the first sub, the second sub couldn't take place until the ball went out of play again. Why he couldn't have told Dundalk to wait until the two subs - which were clearly going to happen - had taken place, I don't know. Farcical one way or the other.

Anyways, five minutes later, Kelly got sent off for a (silly) challenge, Dundalk took the lead a few minutes later again and there was no way back for us.

The ref appeared to allow play to continue before the second sub came on. As the sub came on the pitch during play he deemed it to be a yellow card offence.

Pretty harsh. I'm not an expert on technical rules, could he have exercised a bit of common sense?

If I was Russell, I'd have sympathy for the first yellow but also be pretty annoyed at the player at the committing a professional foul knowing he was already on a yellow. It definitely helped Dundalk as it opened up space at a time when UCD were tiring.

[adamd164]

'Are you watching Tommy Dunne?'

Great win, best atmosphere and among the most positive performances we've put in all season.

Very pleased to show what we're capable of at last. :)

[pineapple stu]

The ref appeared to allow play to continue before the second sub came on. As the sub came on the pitch during play he deemed it to be a yellow card offence.

Pretty harsh. I'm not an expert on technical rules, could he have exercised a bit of common sense?
Yeah, that's what I figured alright, but we were clearly making two subs given we were signalling to the bench and a second player was getting read to come on. So even if Dundalk took the throw quickly, call them back, make the second sub and get on with the game. Utterly ridiculous refereeing. (And almost as bad was the booking for the Dundalk player for time wasting in the 89th minute. Didn't think he was particularly. And why would you bother at 2-0 up against ten men?).

[jinxy lilywhite]

Well, he did say if...and here's another one. If we win in the Brandywell on Tuesday (and there's no reason why we can't) a lot of the damage from tonight will be undone. There's still a distance to go, so I wouldn't be getting over excited yet. Tonight was frustrating, but Derby games can be like that, as you may well discover next week :p Anyhow, the 20th of September is looking like it's going to be some night!!

tony I agree with you which is why I said bring on the drogs which is the next match. I do take delight in people making very early claims that a win tonight and tues will win the league even though there would still be 5 games remaining.

I am not thinking about the 20/09 until we play drogs, then Shels in the cup

[White Horse]

Yeah, that's what I figured alright, but we were clearly making two subs given we were signalling to the bench and a second player was getting read to come on.

Also, from what I could see, the fourth official let him enter the field of play.

There was also confusion after the Dundalk yellow for "time wasting" from the throw-in. After being booked, the Dundalk player threw the ball to the UCD player, expecting that it was now a UCD throw in. The ref then wasted more time clearing this up than caused him to caution the Dundalk player in the first place.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

It will be a very bad league if we come anywhere close to winning it the way we've been playing all season. Will be surprised if we pick up 6 points this week.

[Dodge]

Now Tony, you know he was being cocky in his comment that he thought Pats 'will win the league' if they won those 2 games. Really strange thing to say with 8 games to go.

Not really, if Pats won both games they'd have been 4 clear with 7 to go. So he was probaby right to say "If Pats won..."

But they didn't so it doesn't really matter now...

[Dalymountrower]

Not really, if Pats won both games they'd have been 4 clear with 7 to go. So he was probaby right to say "If Pats won..."

But they didn't so it doesn't really matter now...

Another matchday thread with little or no discussion on the matches played!

Anyway. enjoyable second half in Richmond last night. A very poor Pats crowd and a very brittle Pats defence when Bohs ran at them. Great spirit shown by the Bohs youngsters, if they keep that up we may escape relegation .

[oriel]

The UCD game was one I was really worried about, I didnt travel down, but speaking to a few who did they were also worried on 60 mins when we hadn't made the breakthrough, delighted to hear the news when Hoban scored then Towell wrapped it up. The news from Richmond was just brilliant, its still only one game, but obviously it was a big lift for us.

Still a lot of football to be played, and Sligo have yet to play this weekend, however it would appear after last nights results, that we should at least make europe now, I cant see Derry catching up with 10 points behind us, never mind Sligo in 3rd.

[El-Pietro]

'Are you watching Tommy Dunne?'

theres no need for that kind of bull, cop yourself on will ya

and it was not even close to the best atmosphere this season

[PartySaint]

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Bring on the Drogs next week in OP

You forget to put the part 'nothing is guaranteed' in bold.

Bohs deserved at least a point last night, they were the better team IMO bar 20 minutes in the first half. Heary got his tactics spot on.

We went into last night 1 clear IF (Dundalk fans that's IF) we can win in Derry we go 2 clear, not too bad.

[avvenalaf]

Whaddya mena 'if'. FFS, the only team that can't win at The Brandywell is Derry City.

[TonyD]

Now Tony, you know he was being cocky in his comment that he thought Pats 'will win the league' if they won those 2 games. Really strange thing to say with 8 games to go.

Yeah,well, that was just, like, an opinion, man :p

Anyway, gonna be an interesting run in from here. Derry out of it now,and Sligo can't really afford another slip up. I asked the question here a couple of weeks ago was it a two horse race now. Another blip for Sligo and it definitely will be. I think Pats need to win on Tuesday now. Although, even if we don't, there's a fair bit to go. Which I think everyone agrees on.

[bluemovie]

Big, big win for Blues last night. Looked like it was going to peter out into a scoreless draw that would have given Athlone a 7 point lead and basically handed them the title, but got the win we deserved. Longford had the best of the first half. We were the worst we've been for months, but still had the best chance of the half when Bennion made a superb stop from Furlong. Much better in the second half - Ben Ryan's free in particular was only inches away -but Vinny did the business from about a yard when it was needed. Delighted with that win. Ourselves and Athlone both have four wins in a row now and we haven't conceded in 358 minutes.

Obviously all our hopes rest on us winning in Athlone (like we did in May with ten men) and we probably have to win our other four as well (maybe/maybe not). Athlone's last three are Blues at home, away to Harps and Longford at home which is a stinker of a run-in given how many teams have choked in the First Division in recent years. The odds are stacked in Athlone's favour, but nothing is settled yet.

On another note, Longford need to improve quickly or Mervue could get past them and into the play-offs. I was very impressed with Ryan Connolly last night, but apart from him, they were very poor.

[Ezeikial]

With Derry in such poor form it should be simple for Pats in the Brandywell and unless the bottle has gone completely they should be back on top of the table on Tuesday night.

The bookies still quote Pats as overwhelming favourites at 8/11 with Paddy Power (Dundalk & Sligo both 10/3).

The winning of the league title is in their own hands for both Dundalk and St Pats as if either win all their remaining matches they will be champions

……………….DUNDALK………...PATS………….…..…SLIGO
31/08……….............……………...........………..Limerick (H)
03/09………………………………….Derry (A)………..Drogheda (A)
07/09……….Drogheda (H)…..Limerick (A)…….Bohs (A)
20/09……….St Pats (A)……….Dundalk (H)..…UCD (A)
27/09……….Limerick (H)…….Bray (A)………..…Shels (H)
04/10……….Derry (H)………...UCD (A)…………..Cork (H)
12/10……….Bohs (A)………….Sligo (H)………….St Pats (A)
18/10……….Cork (H)………….Derry (H)………….Drogheda (H)
25/10……….Bray (A)…………..Cork (A)………….Shamrock Rovers (A)

[sheao]

'Are you watching Tommy Dunne?'

Great win, best atmosphere and among the most positive performances we've put in all season.

Very pleased to show what we're capable of at last. :)


Ashton should be given the job on a permanent basis . You can see how positive his sides are just like he had them with the u19s.

[nigel-harps1954]

A relative kick in the teeth to Cobh looking for revenge after cup defeat...Harps stick out a reserve side in the league match tonight.

[Charlie Darwin]

Ashton should be given the job on a permanent basis . You can see how positive his sides are just like he had them with the u19s.
According to this Extra Time interview (http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/10964/ashton-stokes-the-flames-at-cork-city/) he can't get the position permanently because he doesn't have a Pro License and there are no courses currently scheduled (unless he goes abroad I suppose). Slightly ridiculous as it means he'll have to step down with 4 games to play unless he gets a special dispensation until the end of the season.

[nigel-harps1954]

3-2 to Cobh at the minute against Harps which makes it 50 goals in 10 and a half games in St Colmans Park this season.

Also Sligo 2-0 Limerick...but nobody really cares.

[nigel-harps1954]

Full times:

Sligo 2-0 Limerick

Cobh 3-2 Finn Harps

[patrickccfc]

According to this Extra Time interview (http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/10964/ashton-stokes-the-flames-at-cork-city/) he can't get the position permanently because he doesn't have a Pro License and there are no courses currently scheduled (unless he goes abroad I suppose). Slightly ridiculous as it means he'll have to step down with 4 games to play unless he gets a special dispensation until the end of the season.
Yeah its ridiculous that he will most likely not be in charge for the last few games. Are the club allowed to appoint a second caretaker manager for the last few games? Im sure most city fans(including myself) would like to see ashton as the man in charge next year, the players really seem to be responding to him. He's done a fantastic job with the u19's and fully deserves his chance.

On an un-related subject, im thinking of getting an aircoach to dublin and then the luas to tallaght for the game next saturday, game should be finished around 8:50, would it be pushing it too close to think i could make the bus back to cork at 10 from westmoreland street? Or would i better off booking the one at 11 to be on the safe side?

[dong]

3-2 to Cobh at the minute against Harps which makes it 50 goals in 10 and a half games in St Colmans Park this season.

Also Sligo 2-0 Limerick...but nobody really cares.

I'm sure a lot of people really care about a team fourth from bottom in the graveyard!

You really are a sour piece of work. Our crowds may have dropped but we are operating in dreamland compared to the drivel you have to look at every week on various cow fields across the country.

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah its ridiculous that he will most likely not be in charge for the last few games. Are the club allowed to appoint a second caretaker manager for the last few games? Im sure most city fans(including myself) would like to see ashton as the man in charge next year, the players really seem to be responding to him. He's done a fantastic job with the u19's and fully deserves his chance.

On an un-related subject, im thinking of getting an aircoach to dublin and then the luas to tallaght for the game next saturday, game should be finished around 8:50, would it be pushing it too close to think i could make the bus back to cork at 10 from westmoreland street? Or would i better off booking the one at 11 to be on the safe side?
As far as I know the club can appoint as many caretakers as they like. I may be wrong, but was Darius Kierans not in the same situation at Dundalk and he got an extension from the FAI? It would be the common sense thing to do, especially as there are no courses currently running in Ireland. I'm sure they could work out a deal where he starts his Pro License in England over the winter or at the earliest opportunity.

Eh, let's see, it would probably take 30-45 minutes to get back into Connolly at that time. Give yourself 10 minutes to walk to the station and possibly a 10 minute wait, then a couple of minutes to run to Busarus, and you'd probably be OK. I honestly don't know whether aways fans are allowed leave Tallaght before the final whistle but if you left with five minutes to go, you'd have plenty of time. Then again, if you're winning you might not want to. Maybe ring the club and ask what exactly the Garda arrangements are?

edit: duh, Westmoreland Street, not Busaras. That'll cut 5-10 minutes off, so a bit more doable. I'd still say save yourself the hassle and have a pint and get it at 11.

[patrickccfc]

As far as I know the club can appoint as many caretakers as they like. I may be wrong, but was Darius Kierans not in the same situation at Dundalk and he got an extension from the FAI? It would be the common sense thing to do, especially as there are no courses currently running in Ireland. I'm sure they could work out a deal where he starts his Pro License in England over the winter or at the earliest opportunity.

Eh, let's see, it would probably take 30-45 minutes to get back into Connolly at that time. Give yourself 10 minutes to walk to the station and possibly a 10 minute wait, then a couple of minutes to run to Busarus, and you'd probably be OK. I honestly don't know whether aways fans are allowed leave Tallaght before the final whistle but if you left with five minutes to go, you'd have plenty of time. Then again, if you're winning you might not want to. Maybe ring the club and ask what exactly the Garda arrangements are?

edit: duh, Westmoreland Street, not Busaras. That'll cut 5-10 minutes off, so a bit more doable. I'd still say save yourself the hassle and have a pint and get it at 11.
Ya surely something will be sorted out to allow him finish the season in charge. He has had a big hand in developing some of the young guys that are coming through, so he is the ideal person to integrate them into the first team.

Ya i was just checking whether or not making the 10 bus would be possible, yeah il be getting the 11 bus as at least i know i will definitely make it.

What luas stop would be closest to westmoreland street?

[wonder88]

Sligo still in the title race, but it is vital they win at Drogheda mid-week. I was at Inchicore and great recovery by Bohs after being outclassed in the first half. I think Heary got it wrong at the start as they allowed/encouraged Pats to come at them too much from the start, but he corrected it at half-time with the two subs. Pats missed Russell in midfield as Brennan after a good start got distracted as he was playing towards the Bohs fans; why do managers allow a professional player get away with such lack of concentration? Despite being a fans fav at Pats I don't think Fagan is good enough to be the starting striker in a team that hopes to win the league, and it was a surprise that Bisto did not start.
Great spirit and no little skill shown by a very young Bohs team and I hope they stay up, but they are far from safe yet. Difficult to understand why more soccer fans do not turn up to watch Pats play althought I noticed a few foreign fans there last night, one hispanic asked me to take his picture as it was his first time at a LoI match. Pity more Dubs don't take a trip to Richmond Park. The Bohs right back and captain, along with Luke Byrne had good games.

[Charlie Darwin]

Abbey St is the closest. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes if you walk fast. Just walk to O'Connell St, cross to the far side and cross the river.

[patrickccfc]

Abbey St is the closest. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes if you walk fast. Just walk to O'Connell St, cross to the far side and cross the river.
Ah sounds grand so. Cheers for the help;)

[Charlie Darwin]

No problem! I assume Kilduff is out per the loan agreement, though with Morrissey in the form he is that probably won't be much consolation. Who will you play up with him then, if anyone?

[patrickccfc]

No problem! I assume Kilduff is out per the loan agreement, though with Morrissey in the form he is that probably won't be much consolation. Who will you play up with him then, if anyone?
Yup kilduff is out which is a shame as he links up well with morrissey. Id imagine stephen kenny(oh the irony if he scored) will be up front with him. Sounded like we offered little up front without kilduff against sligo last week so i would be a little worried about our attacking threat on saturday but morrissey is on fire so ya never know.

Was talking to the girlfriends brother and he knows kilduff and he was telling him he is loving being down in cork and would love to make it a permanent move. Dont know if that is possible but would love if that happened.

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah, we could have done without Morrissey scoring a hat trick. The way the Rovers defence is now, they're going to give up plenty of chances, and with idiot Quigley out for three matches any momentum from the Shels match will be arrested.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kilduff sticks around in Cork. He hasn't been given a fair crack at any stage in Rovers - the board obviouly rate him enough to keep giving him contracts, but the management. If it had been up to me, he'd have replaced Sheppard ages ago.