View Full Version : Spain V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 12 June 2013 - Friendly - Yankee Stadium
christo
12/06/2013, 12:30 AM
Based off the last 2 games Sammon is better than Walters
jbyrne
12/06/2013, 12:34 AM
Sammon has been so poor in the first 20 mins.
has actually been decent. some decent touches when its come his way
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:36 AM
But why is it in Yankee stadium :confused:
Baseball teams seem to be making really strong bids for other sports to be played in their stadiums recently. Perhaps it is related to the Yankees' involvement with Manchester City.
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:38 AM
has actually been decent. some decent touches when its come his way
Sammon is technically better than all of our strikers except Keane. I don't know why people have been disputing this for so long. His weakness is that he's a poor finisher. His touch is miles ahead of Long or Walters, as he demonstrated for Keane's goal on Friday.
Roberto Martinez wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't technically skilled.
BonnieShels
12/06/2013, 12:38 AM
That all came from him getting hit with the ball like an under-7.
He's had some nice touches and it was great play to get that chance of Pique but...
Liking this composed McShane. His confidence must be up on getting promoted with Hull.
Too many dangerous pieces of play near our box though.
I don't believe for a second that Sammon is good enough. He's in there to be a physical presence and win the high balls that we've obviously decided we're going to pump up to him. He hasn't won a single header and Robbie Keane has been more of a physical presence. He runs and runs and looks pretty fit, but I think we get that from Walters who is far better in my opinion.
christo
12/06/2013, 12:40 AM
Wouldn't mind if half time happened quickly
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:43 AM
I don't believe for a second that Sammon is good enough. He's in there to be a physical presence and win the high balls that we've obviously decided we're going to pump up to him. He hasn't won a single header and Robbie Keane has been more of a physical presence. He runs and runs and looks pretty fit, but I think we get that from Walters who is far better in my opinion.
No he's not! Yes, he's 6'3 or whatever, but he's never been used as a target man by his clubs. He's a link player, as he's demonstrated tonight. He won't make the great runs Keane and Long make, but he will be very tidy and hold his own against defenders.
DannyInvincible
12/06/2013, 12:46 AM
Fairly fortunate to make it to half-time without conceding. Spain were dangerous towards the end of the half.
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:47 AM
Fairly fortunate to make it to half-time without conceding. Spain were dangerous towards the end of the half.
I think we've been quite comfortable to be honest. Spain could equally be grateful Sammon didn't score his chance.
SwanVsDalton
12/06/2013, 12:50 AM
Sammon is technically better than all of our strikers except Keane. I don't know why people have been disputing this for so long.
Step away from the Kool Aid there CD. Sammon's possesses a decent touch at times but it's inconsistent as get out. In terms of holding the ball up his touch is no better than Walters. In attack it's not as strong as Long's. Would love him to prove me wrong, but can't see it right now
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:53 AM
Step away from the Kool Aid there CD. Sammon's possesses a decent touch at times but it's inconsistent as get out. In terms of holding the ball up his touch is no better than Walters. In attack it's not as strong as Long's. Would love him to prove me wrong, but can't see it right now
Long's touch is dreadful. He would never have set up Keane's goal against the Faroes, or Keane's goal against Georgia for that matter. Neither would Walters. They just don't have it in their lockers.
christo
12/06/2013, 12:53 AM
3 Ailesybury Hair loss clinic ads in 1 break, guess they reckon hair loss and watching Ireland go hand in hand :p
BonnieShels
12/06/2013, 12:54 AM
No he's not! Yes, he's 6'3 or whatever, but he's never been used as a target man by his clubs. He's a link player, as he's demonstrated tonight. He won't make the great runs Keane and Long make, but he will be very tidy and hold his own against defenders.
But there in lies the issue with him. He's being used in a way that he's not suited simply because we are sending in long ball after long ball.
Razors left peg
12/06/2013, 12:54 AM
We look like the Faroes out there.
Cant pass the ball, strikers cant hold up the ball. Sammons attempt when through on goal was pathetic. We look terrified and its all last ditch defending
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 12:55 AM
3 Ailesybury Hair loss clinic ads in 1 break, guess they reckon hair loss and watching Ireland go hand in hand :p
Or they've correctly guessed that Connor Sammon's entire family are watching!
CraftyToePoke
12/06/2013, 12:56 AM
I thought Sammons second touch in that run on goal was all wrong, it undid all his good work up to that. It narrowed his angle on goal and took his percentage chance of scoring way down it was focused on getting away from chasing defenders only. That said, he did superbly up to that and for all their ball, we made the best opening of the half in that Sammon contribution.
SwanVsDalton
12/06/2013, 12:58 AM
Long's touch is dreadful. He would never have set up Keane's goal against the Faroes, or Keane's goal against Georgia for that matter.
Long's touch is what opened opened up the Swedish and Georgian defence for the chances he blew. It patently isn't 'dreadful'.
I agree about the setting up, Long likely would've tried to beat a man or shot or fell over looking a peno - I'd make an argument about awareness/selflessness as opposed to touch. Sammon's got decent skill, no doubt, but he isn't blazing a trail of technical ability.
tricky_colour
12/06/2013, 12:59 AM
We look like the Faroes out there.
Cant pass the ball, strikers cant hold up the ball. Sammons attempt when through on goal was pathetic. We look terrified and its all last ditch defending
Saying we look like the Faroes is rather flattering!! They were passing the ball pretty well at times v Sweden!!!
But still 0-0, they have not had that many chances on goal, we are 12-1 to win, all we need is a lucky break and plenty of solid defending!!
BonnieShels
12/06/2013, 12:59 AM
We look like the Faroes out there.
Cant pass the ball, strikers cant hold up the ball. Sammons attempt when through on goal was pathetic. We look terrified and its all last ditch defending
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
tricky_colour
12/06/2013, 1:09 AM
Spain are wilting - they don't like it up em!!
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:10 AM
for a minute there I thought this man was partnering James McCarthy in central midfield
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Sheamus_2012.jpg/493px-Sheamus_2012.jpg
ArdeeBhoy
12/06/2013, 1:10 AM
Are we losing yet?
Fixer82
12/06/2013, 1:11 AM
Nice piece from Andy Keogh here about how he stays looking so good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwGZDfu-PZI :)
jbyrne
12/06/2013, 1:12 AM
Saying we look like the Faroes is rather flattering!! They were passing the ball pretty well at times v Sweden!!!
sweden arent the current world and double euro champions.
we have a half strength team and are doing grand. need to hold onto the ball better at times though
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 1:16 AM
Long's touch is what opened opened up the Swedish and Georgian defence for the chances he blew. It patently isn't 'dreadful'.
I wouldn't say his touch opened the Swedish defence so much as his body position. I think he looks to take on defences when he doesn't have the ability to do so, whereas Sammon would bring other players into the game. That one opening against Sweden was the only opportunity he created and even so he never really looked in control. Sammon has more of a calm about him 20 yards from goal, even if he doesn't finish well.
jbyrne
12/06/2013, 1:22 AM
Are we losing yet?
go back to bed
ArdeeBhoy
12/06/2013, 1:23 AM
I'm in bed...
Who are the co-commentators on the Premier Sports coverage?
Fixer82
12/06/2013, 1:24 AM
I have to say I think Stephen Kelly has done well tonight.
Still can't believe Trap gives him the time of day after he refused to board the plane to Faroes
osarusan
12/06/2013, 1:25 AM
Anybody got a working stream? The one DannyI linked to earlier isn't working for me.
BonnieShels
12/06/2013, 1:25 AM
Balls.
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:26 AM
unlucky from McCarthy, set up Soldado with the flick
The Fly
12/06/2013, 1:26 AM
1-0 Spain
ArdeeBhoy
12/06/2013, 1:27 AM
It's been coming. This is just an exercise in shadow-chasing.
Just let's hope, it's not too futile.
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:27 AM
Anybody got a working stream? The one DannyI linked to earlier isn't working for me.
pm'd you nothing at all to do with this
tricky_colour
12/06/2013, 1:27 AM
McCarthy back heel.
The Fly
12/06/2013, 1:28 AM
http://www.coolsport.tv/stream2.html
ArdeeBhoy
12/06/2013, 1:30 AM
That Curtis Fleming co-commentating?
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:31 AM
You've brought this on yourself Spain, here comes McClean!
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:32 AM
That Curtis Fleming co-commentating?
yep, St Pat's well represented with Curtis and Kerr doing studio punditry
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 1:35 AM
yep, St Pat's well represented with Curtis and Kerr doing studio punditry
Quinn on the field as well.
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 1:37 AM
Super save from Casillas as he was wrong-footed.
tetsujin1979
12/06/2013, 1:37 AM
Sledge!!
<EDIT>
is offside
tricky_colour
12/06/2013, 1:37 AM
yes
fecking take that!!
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 1:37 AM
Disallowed, Cox offside.
BonnieShels
12/06/2013, 1:38 AM
Cox again in the way. FFS.
The Fly
12/06/2013, 1:38 AM
Disallowed
gastric
12/06/2013, 1:39 AM
You've brought this on yourself Spain, here comes McClean!
I think we need John McClean from Die Hard to knock off some of these olive lovers!
Charlie Darwin
12/06/2013, 1:39 AM
On this performance, I'd have Sammon starting against Sweden.
tricky_colour
12/06/2013, 1:40 AM
come on
why take it fecking short? when we can't string 2 passes together?
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