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CraftyToePoke
03/06/2013, 4:44 PM
Time for one I thought.

Line up ? Who will start, and who should start. Etc

pineapple stu
03/06/2013, 5:26 PM
Dunne and Hoolahan "90% likely to start" per the radio today.

Hoolahan in the holding role behind Keane? Or Cox/Sammon up front alongside Keane?

I think in a competitive game, the Faroes may provide more of a test than Georgia. We'll need to move the ball around faster than we did on Sunday. But we should still be good for the three points. They seem to have gone back a bit since Kerr left.

I'll go 3-0, with Keane to score 2.

paul_oshea
03/06/2013, 5:40 PM
its a real pity they didn't hold on for the points against Sweden at home that time. Going 1-0 up and all like in the second half.

ArdeeBhoy
03/06/2013, 5:58 PM
Sweden aren't that poor. Maybe they aren't either, which is why think it might be a little closer. 3-1 or 2-0 for me.

paul_oshea
03/06/2013, 6:11 PM
I hope we set the stall out early, that holohan starts with keane and hendrick and whelan in the middle(no other choice for whelan). Put walters and mcclean out wide if needing a bit of height. Try and score early and win this one well like 4-0, we need the goal difference but also I would just like to see us play good football and that holohan is central to all that so he is undropable.

IsMiseSean
03/06/2013, 7:25 PM
Do we need the goal difference?
I thought the results against the 'lesser' teams don't count if we finish level on points with Sweden or Austria.

ArdeeBhoy
03/06/2013, 7:27 PM
Exactly.

And it's 'Hoolahan'...
;)

DannyInvincible
03/06/2013, 7:41 PM
Hoolahan "90 per cent likely" to start a competitive game? Whether it'll be behind the striker or in place of the ever-present Whelan, that's quite something.

Charlie Darwin
03/06/2013, 9:17 PM
Trap has said if Hoolahan starts he'll need to pick some wide players to help him out, which implies he's looking to use him as part of a two-man midfield.

Cuyahoga
03/06/2013, 9:21 PM
I wonder though is it a risk starting with Richard Dunne since he hasnt played much football at all recently.

geysir
03/06/2013, 10:06 PM
Trap has said if Hoolahan starts he'll need to pick some wide players to help him out, which implies he's looking to use him as part of a two-man midfield.
That implies playing Hoolahan is some sort of a handicap, causing great inconvenience.

Charlie Darwin
03/06/2013, 10:07 PM
Well he said the same thing about McCarthy before the Sweden match. I did notice Wes was a bit weak in a couple of 50/50s early on yesterday.

DannyInvincible
03/06/2013, 10:12 PM
At least they were 50/50s, I suppose, as opposed to Whelan's 0/100s.

Sullivinho
03/06/2013, 10:35 PM
We could play Richard Dunne up front on his own and I'd still be expecting to beat these fellas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0B9A35ynZw

I believe the Faroes threat presents as in the above video, with the slick underside of the banana skin crucially facing up and significantly reducing the risk of lubriciously inhibited friction that an inverted Cypriot or Albanian peel might generate.


http://s13.postimg.org/o7mpjcy2d/image.png

3 points.

Crosby87
04/06/2013, 12:54 AM
Trap: 1-0 Ok by me.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2335407/Republic-Ireland-v-Faroe-Islands-Giovanni-Trapattoni-settle-1-0-win.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

ArdeeBhoy
04/06/2013, 1:48 AM
Please, anything but that rag...

ArdeeBhoy
04/06/2013, 4:54 PM
The latest. According to the IT.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ireland-fully-focused-on-faroes-1.1416792?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

tricky_colour
04/06/2013, 10:02 PM
Do we need the goal difference?
I thought the results against the 'lesser' teams don't count if we finish level on points with Sweden or Austria.


21-0 would help.

Could turn out to be a tough game especially if we are expecting and easy win after the Georgia game. ie the banana skin.

DannyInvincible
05/06/2013, 11:40 AM
Do we need the goal difference?
I thought the results against the 'lesser' teams don't count if we finish level on points with Sweden or Austria.

The games against the last-placed finisher in the group aren't counted in terms of the ranking of the second-placed teams throughout all groups for the purpose of the play-offs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams).

They are still counted for the ranking of teams even on points within the group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Tiebreakers), however.


Tiebreakers

For FIFA World Cup qualifying stages using a league format, the method used for separating teams level on points is the same for all Confederations, as decided by FIFA itself. If teams are even on points at the end of group play, the tied teams will be ranked by:


goal difference in all group matches
greater number of goals scored in all group matches
greater number of points obtained in matches between the tied teams
goal difference in matches between the tied teams
greater number of goals scored in matches between the tied teams
greater number of away goals scored in matches between the tied teams if only two teams are tied

If teams are still equal then a single play-off at a neutral venue will be played. If scores are level after 90 minutes in the play-off, then two 15-minutes periods of extra time and (if required) a penalty shoot-out would determine the winner.

For FIFA World Cup qualifying stages using a home-and-away knockout format, the team that has the higher aggregate score over the two legs progresses to the next round. In the event that aggregate scores finish level, the away goals rule is applied, i.e. the team that scored more goals away from home over the two legs progresses. If away goals are also equal, then thirty minutes of extra time are played, divided into two fifteen-minutes halves. The away goals rule is again applied after extra time, i.e. if there are goals scored during extra time and the aggregate score is still level, the visiting team qualifies by virtue of more away goals scored. If no goals are scored during extra time, the tie is decided by penalty shoot-out.

More on page 25 of this document: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/01/47/38/17/regulationsfwcbrazil2014_en.pdf

Crosby87
05/06/2013, 12:34 PM
Trap: I ignored Wes too long.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city-fc/giovanni_trapattoni_i_ignored_norwich_city_s_wes_h oolahan_for_too_long_1_2223145

paul_oshea
05/06/2013, 2:27 PM
I wont thank that danny cos i already knew :P

Good stuff though pointing to that. I often worry that Trap and the rest don't fully understand, or should I say aren't aware about this or the worst runner up and current standings in that table.

DannyInvincible
05/06/2013, 3:05 PM
I wont thank that danny cos i already knew :P

Good stuff though pointing to that. I often worry that Trap and the rest don't fully understand, or should I say aren't aware about this or the worst runner up and current standings in that table.

You'd imagine at least somebody at the FAI is aware and passes on such info to the management, but you just wouldn't know for sure...

paul_oshea
05/06/2013, 3:06 PM
Exactly Danny, you wouldn't....I mean for the Euro qualifying, the little bits and pieces you got from the players suggested they weren't aware of how these things worked. And i know just playing amateur sport, players are more involved with playing and winning, than what's actually involved to get to the next stage so to speak.

ArdeeBhoy
05/06/2013, 3:16 PM
Somebody just drop them an e-mail so...

info@fai.ie if that helps?

geysir
05/06/2013, 4:41 PM
Somebody just drop them an e-mail so...

info@fai.ie if that helps?

Dear FAI
If your past record is anything to go by, you (effin) retards probably don't know the score re WC qual tiebreakers.
Please read the following attached document from Fifa.

Up yours,
Bonnie.

Charlie Darwin
05/06/2013, 4:49 PM
Dear FAI
If your past record is anything to go by, you (effin) retards probably don't know the score re WC qual tiebreakers.
Please read the following attached document from Fifa.

Up yours,
Bonnie.
You forgot to put #COYBIG at the end

tricky_colour
05/06/2013, 5:12 PM
The games against the last-placed finisher in the group aren't counted in terms of the ranking of the second-placed teams throughout all groups for the purpose of the play-offs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_o f_second-placed_teams).

They are still counted for the ranking of teams even on points within the group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Tiebreakers), however.



More on page 25 of this document: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/01/47/38/17/regulationsfwcbrazil2014_en.pdf

The ranking method is getting so complicated you need a lawyer to work it out!!!

paul_oshea
05/06/2013, 6:37 PM
Dear FAI
If your past record is anything to go by, you (effin) retards probably don't know the score re WC qual tiebreakers.
Please read the following attached document from Fifa.

Up yours,
Bonnie.


When I sent that email from bonnieshels@hotmail.com, they had no record of me. But they did say they knew a shels support called bonnie and would be banning him from the Aviva.

I don't think that will really bother him though, because he seems to be posting on here most times they are playing....

ArdeeBhoy
05/06/2013, 11:01 PM
Tbf, have his home e-mail, but it won't be needed.

Even the FAI aren't that :rolleyes: stupid...
The 'Trapp factor' is surely sufficient evidence!

Crosby87
06/06/2013, 12:43 AM
That's good stuff there lads today, made me laugh.

I'm looking forward to this match.
I wish this were a train of Irish fans arriving at the Stadium.
But how does the conductor see anything?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/667/indiancommutertrain.jpg

paul_oshea
06/06/2013, 10:05 AM
Look at the 3rd photo. When the rugby players did this a while back there was a big write up about how great they were taking time out. Yet the soccer players go under the radar and no big deal - which it should be - but I remember people saying ye wouldn't see the soccer players doing that...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/traps-nifty-footwork-as-he-dodges-dail-tackles-29324268.html

paul_oshea
06/06/2013, 10:14 AM
That's good stuff there lads today, made me laugh.

I'm looking forward to this match.
I wish this were a train of Irish fans arriving at the Stadium.
But how does the conductor see anything?
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/667/indiancommutertrain.jpg

I don't think the conductor has a problem, its the train driving man that has the problem.

Stuttgart88
06/06/2013, 10:29 AM
Very interesting that 63 TDs are taking an interest. I've always felt that football was only ever of interest to the political class at opportune and highly visible moments. One well known football insider told me off the record that the disproportionate representation of GAA areas in the Dail, and hence its dominant influence, was a factor counting against football.

BonnieShels
06/06/2013, 11:22 AM
Somebody just drop them an e-mail so...

info@fai.ie if that helps?

On it.


Dear FAI
If your past record is anything to go by, you (effin) retards probably don't know the score re WC qual tiebreakers.
Please read the following attached document from Fifa.

Up yours,
Bonnie.

I'll be more eloquent. I may include a reference to a tie and crates of Carlsberg though.


When I sent that email from bonnieshels@hotmail.com, they had no record of me. But they did say they knew a shels support called bonnie and would be banning him from the Aviva.

I don't think that will really bother him though, because he seems to be posting on here most times they are playing....

I would like to think that you'd assume that BonnieShels wasn't my real name. The cheek. The amount of times in Poznan I had to refrain from calling Stutts, Stutts was frightening.

Smartphones dear Paul, Smart phones enable me to be at a game and post in here. Just like when I saunter across the road tomorrow from the office.


Tbf, have his home e-mail, but it won't be needed.

Even the FAI aren't that :rolleyes: stupid...
The 'Trapp factor' is surely sufficient evidence!

I like the concept of having a "home" email address. :)


Very interesting that 63 TDs are taking an interest. I've always felt that football was only ever of interest to the political class at opportune and highly visible moments. One well known football insider told me off the record that the disproportionate representation of GAA areas in the Dail, and hence its dominant influence, was a factor counting against football.

It would be one factor. The other factor is the FAI itself. And that I feel is definitely the biggest one counting against soccer in this country.

paul_oshea
06/06/2013, 11:28 AM
My real name is Paul_O'Shea :shocked:

BonnieShels
06/06/2013, 11:56 AM
My real name is Paul_O'Shea :shocked:

Or is it... duh duh duh duh! :)

paul_oshea
06/06/2013, 12:02 PM
Shouldn't there be an n in there?

BonnieShels
06/06/2013, 12:11 PM
Or is it... duh duh duh duh! :)

Orn isn itn... duhn duhn duhn duhn! :)n

Fixer82
06/06/2013, 12:40 PM
It would be one factor. The other factor is the FAI itself. And that I feel is definitely the biggest one counting against soccer in this country.

I would tend to agree.
I think most genuine sports fans in this country (including TDs) would have at least a passing interest in the Rugby, Soccer and GAA teams - especially when it gets to a big stage (ie Euros/World Cup, 6 Nations, All-Ireland)

OwlsFan
06/06/2013, 1:23 PM
I didn't realise Brian Kerr was rooting for the Faroes until I heard a skit on it in Gift Grub this am and apparently it's true:

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/brian-kerr-claims-would-happy-1927796

Sure he worked with them as the manager but he also managed us. He's never really forgiven the FAI for letting him go. It comes across in just about every interview. To ruin our chances for a meaningless point for the Faroes? He's definitely away with the Faroes !

paul_oshea
06/06/2013, 1:34 PM
the mirror?

OwlsFan
06/06/2013, 1:40 PM
the mirror?

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the bitterest of them all ?

NeverFeltBetter
06/06/2013, 2:06 PM
Team: Forde, Coleman, O'Shea, St Ledger, Wilson, McGeady, Whelan, Hoolahan, Cox, Walters, Keane

DannyInvincible
06/06/2013, 2:08 PM
Cox back starting on the wing?...

NeverFeltBetter
06/06/2013, 2:11 PM
Seems like it. No Dunne either, after being "90%" likely to play.

tetsujin1979
06/06/2013, 2:16 PM
press conference live on rte.ie: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/live/7/

Fixer82
06/06/2013, 2:26 PM
Why does he not play McClean on the wing?
Walters and Cox are both strikers

jbyrne
06/06/2013, 2:28 PM
Cox back starting on the wing?...

cox up front with robbie and walters on the wing as most recent selections id say

BonnieShels
06/06/2013, 2:28 PM
I didn't realise Brian Kerr was rooting for the Faroes until I heard a skit on it in Gift Grub this am and apparently it's true:

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/brian-kerr-claims-would-happy-1927796

Sure he worked with them as the manager but he also managed us. He's never really forgiven the FAI for letting him go. It comes across in just about every interview. To ruin our chances for a meaningless point for the Faroes? He's definitely away with the Faroes !

I don't read it at all that he's rooting for the Faroes.


If they got a result, if they get a draw ā€“ which is very unlikely ā€“ in the match, Iā€™d be happy for them even if it damaged Irish prospects.

Just that he wouldn't be so put out by them getting a result. No harm in that. He has a clear affinity for them.

BonnieShels
06/06/2013, 2:29 PM
Cox back starting on the wing?...

Whelan in the team? FFS!