patsh
01/10/2004, 5:46 PM
Come sir, you exaggerate. pseudo-ascendancy-class riposte? :p
Which is why, incidentally, I know that some of the Cork fans' behaviour would get them in trouble (or hurt, or stabbed) in different circumstances, because I've seen it happen. I swear at players/referees/linesman/managers all the time. But I know where to draw the line, and I know that gathering in a group of twenty directly behind someone I wouldn't say "boo" to if I met face-to-face and hurling foul-mouthed and targeted abuse at them is pathetic at best.A comparison between what happens at a soccer match, which is forgotten about within minutes, and dealing with vicious thugs in a socially deprived neighbourhood is neither valid nor relevant.
And give it a rest with the "man's game" stuff, I thought pseudo-working-class chic went out with Oasis and Loaded. Although we do tend to pick up trends late from across the water, so maybe the cultural year is 1996 after all. I have never read Loaded or payed much attention to Oasis. Soccer is a working-class man's game all over the world, which fairly accurately reflects the people, and their social cicumstances, of those who who follow it.
It's nothing to do with DC on the field. F*ck it, we weren't good enough and deserved to go down, we'll do better next time. But I'll be the judge of what I should and shouldn't put up with, and a rather good judge I am too, if I say so myself.Well whether you like it or not, you are going to have to put up with that which offends you at nearly every game.
Now, I'm happy to draw a line there if everyone else is.No problem, it's a pity I didn't get to have that drink with you.
Which is why, incidentally, I know that some of the Cork fans' behaviour would get them in trouble (or hurt, or stabbed) in different circumstances, because I've seen it happen. I swear at players/referees/linesman/managers all the time. But I know where to draw the line, and I know that gathering in a group of twenty directly behind someone I wouldn't say "boo" to if I met face-to-face and hurling foul-mouthed and targeted abuse at them is pathetic at best.A comparison between what happens at a soccer match, which is forgotten about within minutes, and dealing with vicious thugs in a socially deprived neighbourhood is neither valid nor relevant.
And give it a rest with the "man's game" stuff, I thought pseudo-working-class chic went out with Oasis and Loaded. Although we do tend to pick up trends late from across the water, so maybe the cultural year is 1996 after all. I have never read Loaded or payed much attention to Oasis. Soccer is a working-class man's game all over the world, which fairly accurately reflects the people, and their social cicumstances, of those who who follow it.
It's nothing to do with DC on the field. F*ck it, we weren't good enough and deserved to go down, we'll do better next time. But I'll be the judge of what I should and shouldn't put up with, and a rather good judge I am too, if I say so myself.Well whether you like it or not, you are going to have to put up with that which offends you at nearly every game.
Now, I'm happy to draw a line there if everyone else is.No problem, it's a pity I didn't get to have that drink with you.