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bullit
13/03/2013, 6:33 AM
How was it for you? Too quick? with the highlights neatly compacted and Heary interview and Fai junior cup draw towards the end.
I would like to see the weekends highlights spread over the hour and Stuey Byrne to stay forever :D
:cool:
gufcfan
13/03/2013, 8:43 AM
The repeated jokes about Bossekota and Williams were cringeworthy.
Has been said time and again but, more highlights and less ****etalk.
noddy102
13/03/2013, 9:53 AM
The repeated jokes about Bossekota and Williams were cringeworthy.
Has been said time and again but, more highlights and less ****etalk.
The highlights are so poorly constructed its baffling! Just one example was the end of the Shams Dundalk game when Massey gets sent off. Its in the 90th min and Rovers have a free right on the edge of the box, instead of showing it, it just cuts to full time. Even if the free was a poor one, its the build up of anticipation that makes the viewer want to see it but no rte manage to cut it out altogether. Another example was the Bray goal, all they show is the cross from Waters and the finish, blink and you miss it.. No build up to the goal, no replay of the finish, nothing.
Other than the Lim-Cork game which had already been broadcast live, there was no more than 3 or 4 worthwhile clips of the other games. They are obviously not bothered analysing the games properly or don't want to pay anyone to do it. Surely it could be made easier or money saved if the cameraman/woman (lets be political correct) at the games just noted times on the video where controversial/good incidents and goals happened it would be much easier and lead to decent highlights showing the league much more favourably?
Captain2007
13/03/2013, 10:12 AM
Another example was the Bray goal, all they show is the cross from Waters and the finish, blink and you miss it.. No build up to the goal, no replay of the finish, nothing.
There was a pretty good build-up to the goal, probably won't make a contender for GOTM because all you see is the cross and finish..point well made Noddy.
adamd164
13/03/2013, 10:16 AM
Kill the techno soundtrack!!!! For the love of god, kill it!!!!
nigel-harps1954
13/03/2013, 11:38 AM
Kill the techno soundtrack!!!! For the love of god, kill it!!!!
Kill it with fire.
Destroys the highlights for me when they have music belting out. Can't hear any sort of atmosphere whatsoever.
DannyInvincible
13/03/2013, 11:05 PM
Tony O'D appears to think it's Patrick and Shane McIlhenny, but not as bad as Kerr's Axel Foley gaffe, to be fair.
And Peter Collins seems to think a penalty scored after being touched/kicked more than once by the taker would count? Surely that's not right...
Charlie Darwin
13/03/2013, 11:32 PM
RTE sports shows are addicted to analysis. They managed to tack an hour and a half onto the end of the Champions League match tonight, it's crazy. I don't think it's even responding to demand either, there just seems to be this sincerely-held belief that we want to listen to these people talk for hours and hours.
Straightstory
14/03/2013, 9:56 AM
And Peter Collins seems to think a penalty scored after being touched/kicked more than once by the taker would count? Surely that's not right...
That would be like touching it forward a foot or two and then blasting it into the net - so clearly not right.
However - I thought MNS was very good on Monday. Nice report on Limerick and a good idea to have a guest like Heary in the studio. I thought what he had to say was interesting. Byrne and Sadlier are good pundits who are not afraid to speak their mind. RTE's coverage of the game in Ireland puts the reset of the media (by which I mostly mean the newspapers) to shame.
Straightstory
14/03/2013, 10:00 AM
... I very much liked the use of archive film from the early 80's Eoin Hand era on the Limerick report. (Even though they chopped off the top and bottom of the footage to make it fit into widescreen - which always drives me mad).
adamd164
14/03/2013, 10:36 AM
The report on Limerick was good. Looked like they put all the effort into that though, the rest of the episode was poor, badly edited highlights.
Sadlier is a good analyst but christ he's depressing. Does he ever smile?
BonnieShels
14/03/2013, 11:18 AM
The report on Limerick was good. Looked like they put all the effort into that though, the rest of the episode was poor, badly edited highlights.
Sadlier is a good analyst but christ he's depressing. Does he ever smile?
My thoughts exactly. I have to say I really like Sadlier. He's growing into the grouchy mode well.
blueblood
14/03/2013, 5:23 PM
One thing that annoys me is the camera position at the Brandywell, they didn't even show the fans or the good side of ground, sometimes i think RTE want to give a bad impression of the league just so they won't have to show games
redarmyfaction
14/03/2013, 7:13 PM
RTE sports shows are addicted to analysis. They managed to tack an hour and a half onto the end of the Champions League match tonight, it's crazy. I don't think it's even responding to demand either, there just seems to be this sincerely-held belief that we want to listen to these people talk for hours and hours.
How right you are how right, I always turn down Dummy and Piles or whoever at half time and turn off after,OTOT the MNS coverage is so badly edited and disjointed that you don't get a sense of what a fame was like.
DannyInvincible
15/03/2013, 5:41 AM
One thing that annoys me is the camera position at the Brandywell, they didn't even show the fans or the good side of ground, sometimes i think RTE want to give a bad impression of the league just so they won't have to show games
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make sense. If they didn't want to show any games, they'd simply not bother with MNS or live fixtures at all.
They only ever erect a main camera on the Lone Moor Road side of the Brandywell when broadcasting live games as I'm pretty sure it entails constructing a make-shift platform rather than using the already-suitable-but-lower vantage point in the new stand. They obviously see little merit in such expenditure for a highlights package. I think it's fair enough.
osarusan
15/03/2013, 7:51 AM
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make sense. If they didn't want to show any games, they'd simply not bother with MNS or live fixtures at all.
They have to show live games and MNS as part of the agreement with the FAI giving them coverage of the internationals (competitive games at least).
That was one good thing the FAI did, in fairness.
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make sense. If they didn't want to show any games, they'd simply not bother with MNS or live fixtures at all.
Pretty sure it's part of the international contract (and costs are actually netted off the international rights price). They have to do MNS. Not being a TV production expert, I suspect that live games are actually easier for them, fill a couple of hours TV relatively low hassle, whereas highlights take time in editing down (to do it well at least), which they don't seem to bother. Easier to do "analysis/ opinions".
They waste so much time talking on MNS, but then when it comes to live games, coverage starts with feck all build up and feck all analysis after the game.
The only thing I will defend them on is camera positions - if clubs want it on a different side, it's up to them to provide the spot.
A N Mouse
15/03/2013, 8:31 AM
Your conspiracy theory doesn't make sense. If they didn't want to show any games, they'd simply not bother with MNS or live fixtures at all.
They only ever erect a main camera on the Lone Moor Road side of the Brandywell when broadcasting live games as I'm pretty sure it entails constructing a make-shift platform rather than using the already-suitable-but-lower vantage point in the new stand. They obviously see little merit in such expenditure for a highlights package. I think it's fair enough.
The temporary structure stayed there last season - after first live game - because it was more cost effective for them to hire it for the season than dismantle it after one game. Or at least that's the derry rumor.
DannyInvincible
15/03/2013, 1:34 PM
They have to show live games and MNS as part of the agreement with the FAI giving them coverage of the internationals (competitive games at least).
That was one good thing the FAI did, in fairness.
Ah, maybe there is something to the theory then, ha... Sorry, blueblood!
KR's Post
15/03/2013, 2:10 PM
Awful awful show... Con Murphy is also a big loss. Afaik rte offered the Fái money not to have mns start in the first place. Shows how much they are interested in the league.
adamd164
17/03/2013, 4:45 PM
Does anyone here have an idea when the FAI's current contract with RTE runs out?
Increased live games and MNS are the one thing the FAI have done well to get - losing it would be catastrophic for the PR of the league.
gufcfan
17/03/2013, 5:14 PM
Does anyone here have an idea when the FAI's current contract with RTE runs out?
I'm nearly sure it's 2014 but I can't find a link.
adamd164
18/03/2013, 8:53 AM
Will tonight's MNS will have highlights of this afternoon's Bohs/Rovers game? Bit of a joke if not, it'll be finished 3 hrs before MNS starts.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish-soccer-league/2013/0318/377219-airtricity-premier-league-team-of-the-week/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
MNS available worldwide. RTE's live games availabe everywhere but UK (inc Northern Ireland). Bottom bit of that article
Fivesilver
18/03/2013, 2:28 PM
Pretty sure last week's MNS was Ireland only (unless the original broadcast) was worldwide).
eamoss
18/03/2013, 2:38 PM
Pretty sure last week's MNS was Ireland only (unless the original broadcast) was worldwide).
I was unable to watch it in Belfast anyway and it seems like that will continue.
Pretty sure last week's MNS was Ireland only (unless the original broadcast) was worldwide).
Yeah, which is why they're announcing its not the case now
sligoman
18/03/2013, 2:55 PM
I was unable to watch it in Belfast anyway and it seems like that will continue.MNS worldwide. Games worldwide (excluding UK).
TheBoss
18/03/2013, 3:50 PM
Does anyone here have an idea when the FAI's current contract with RTE runs out?
Increased live games and MNS are the one thing the FAI have done well to get - losing it would be catastrophic for the PR of the league.
This season is the last: http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2008/0229/292416-faieircomleagueofireland/
White Horse
18/03/2013, 5:33 PM
MNS worldwide. Games worldwide (excluding UK).
The FAI continue to be biased against border clubs.
Fivesilver
18/03/2013, 6:59 PM
Yeah, which is why they're announcing its not the case now
Surely you didn't expect me to summon up the energy to click on a link?
osarusan
18/03/2013, 11:56 PM
Trying to watch the March 18th show here:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/734/377260/
but it looks like it will take about 20 years for it to finish loading. Anybody else having this problem?
Charlie Darwin
19/03/2013, 12:00 AM
It's going at a normal fast speed for me. Try accessing it direct from the player: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10122768/
It's a bit sad that the RTE player selects Against the Head as one of the main recommended shows from today but MNS is nowhere to be seen on the front page. I have seen the odd live match featured on there though.
osarusan
19/03/2013, 12:02 AM
Isn't the RTEplayer still restricted to Ireland only, but the content on rte.ie is now worldwide?
On that link you added, MNS doesn't open at all for me.
Charlie Darwin
19/03/2013, 12:09 AM
Oh OK, I didn't realise that. I don't understand why they'd make it so complicated. In any case, there's no slowdown for me but I'm guessing the server is based in Ireland so it's probably just taking a longer time to reach you.
A face
19/03/2013, 12:46 AM
Awful awful show... Con Murphy is also a big loss. Afaik rte offered the Fái money not to have mns start in the first place. Shows how much they are interested in the league.
Just wondering is this a request in and around when MNS was first launched, when the initial contract was drawn up or was this another request in the off-season just gone? I mean if its still just the one request then that's grand and i'd just be worried about the next contract renewal talks and any subsequent requests.
I also still think Irish Football doesn't make enough of the fact its the domestic game and because of that, the lions share of resources (licence fee) should be devoted to it. The fact that RTE can generate revenue from showing football from other countries is irrelevant given their role as a National Broadcaster, they have a vested interested in domestic sport. I think their role in Irish Football could be described as abject failure and its demonstratively illustrated every single week when we see EPL games and highlights being shown. It actually serves as the perfect yard stick, the benchmark that should be matched on a consistent basis.
I know Irish fans have never accomplished anything, collectively i mean, and a million miles away from being able to fight its own corner, lobbying, or doing anything that could improve its situation but that's not to say their isn't a need for it. Maybe some of the supporters trusts could pick up the mantle on this.
Charlie Darwin
19/03/2013, 12:50 AM
Is there any reason why the league doesn't actively court Sky Sports and the like? Sky show the Irish League and it's ****e.
marinobohs
19/03/2013, 12:20 PM
Is there any reason why the league doesn't actively court Sky Sports and the like? Sky show the Irish League and it's ****e.
Obviously restricted by current deal right now but they could court them for future (SKY already have deal for Internatonal games. Might be a bit restricting though as LOI games would have to fit in around the myriad of other footie SKY presently churn out.
Bohs V Shams 3.45 AM on a Tuesday night :rolleyes: even the gardai have never gone that far.
Is there any reason why the league doesn't actively court Sky Sports and the like? Sky show the Irish League and it's ****e.
I would imagine they do court them, but at the moment, we get 20+ live games from RTE and a weekly one hour highlights programme. Sky show 6/7 Irish league games a year and thats it.
It's important that it's on FTA TV imo. However, the FAI should be moving on to dictate amount of highlights shown at the next round of the contract negotiations, to take the programme on (doubt they'll be arsed to try and take the international team stuff out with erodes the time to the league too). It currently smacks of RTE paying lip service to the FAI paying lip service. And things like moving the FAI cup draws from 6.1 to MNS have actually marginalised the league even more imo.
adamd164
19/03/2013, 1:42 PM
However, the FAI should be moving on to dictate amount of highlights shown at the next round of the contract negotiations
They should. I'm more worried that the FAI won't include a demand for MNS/highlights at all when the contract with RTE is renegotiated this year/next year.
LOI fans need to put pressure on the FAI to ensure it's high on the agenda when the time comes.
From the link given above (http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2008/0229/292416-faieircomleagueofireland/):
In a further commitment to Irish soccer, RTÉ Television are set to increase the coverage of live eircom League of Ireland matches as agreed in the new contract extension announced recently by the FAI. Beginning in 2010, the number of live matches shown by RTÉ will grow each season culminating with 33 live matches (one-per-week) in the final year of the term - the 2013 season.
Are they showing 33 games this season as originally promised?!
A N Mouse
19/03/2013, 2:24 PM
MNS worldwide. Games worldwide (excluding UK).
For those that would normally watch from parts of the uk - Have the games been blocked on sky or freeview?
bullit
17/04/2013, 2:08 AM
Just watched MNS.
In relation to Dundalk v Derry- and not in any particular order
1/. No pen 1st pen for Rossi's tap on the back of Rafter as i said without seeing evidence post match on Friday.Evidence is there now and that was no pen.
2/.Maybe or not pen after Sully protects himself,hands given but have seen them waved away in the past.
3/. A poor ref tries to make ammends for earlier mistakes as he sends off Shane McEleny for a nothing foul on Mulvenna as Dundalk break forward.
No hard feelings towards Derry,thay got the breaks on the night when we were on top but the panel on MNS agreed that the ref made a few fook-up's at crucial times in the game.
Few other fook up's made by refs in other matches too and the MNS panel agreed that those too were awful!
Nah Nah Nah Nah
17/04/2013, 7:55 AM
I thought the second penalty was a definite penalty. Other 2 decisions were laughable though.
gael353
21/04/2013, 7:39 PM
Will be well worth a watch tomorrow night to see 4 excellently taken goals at the Carlisle today. You should (mns pending) be able to see three very similar long range free kicks by Shane Tracy :)
Mad Moose
22/04/2013, 4:38 PM
Took a day off work and took some time this evening to catch up on the last two episodes of MNS. Wasn't particularly looking forward to seeing Alan Kelly feature but my god did he go on and get way too much time. Following that up with the an example of Champion's league football and some Scottish team and Juventus and Kelly couldn't comment on it. Surely they might have run through the script before hand and kept the conversation relevant to what he could talk about. A combination of him being an absolute bore and a Cork accent and I never caught a word of it anyhow.
They should. I'm more worried that the FAI won't include a demand for MNS/highlights at all when the contract with RTE is renegotiated this year/next year.
LOI fans need to put pressure on the FAI to ensure it's high on the agenda when the time comes.
From the link given above (http://www.rte.ie/about/en/press-office/press-releases/2008/0229/292416-faieircomleagueofireland/):
Are they showing 33 games this season as originally promised?!
I read somewhere recently that the new international deal being trumpeted recently by RTE didn't include League of Ireland games. Be interesting to see their commitment to "domestic soccer" now. It should prove very telling.
avvenalaf
22/04/2013, 10:35 PM
International deal. Domestic. Go figure.
Think it was last week show they had the daft punk new tune on when doing the goals round up. Chorus
She's up all night to get some
He's up all night to get lucky
Tremendous
adamd164
01/05/2013, 5:00 PM
I just noticed on one of RTE's ads for Premier Soccer Sunday that they have 'fans' of different premier league clubs in studio now while filming!
Sickening!!
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