Why all support english clubs??

[lopez]

Ahem.
And if you think that'scomplicated:-...3). Chesham United :eek:...Oh my God! :eek: :eek: We've got one of the Clamppetts on this thread! Yeeee-haaaahhh! :D ;)

[A face]

Well I was in cardiff and i didnt see any England flags, so i really dont know what your talking about. Maybe you have mistaken our flag for the english flag

http://www.ourweecountry.btinternet.co.uk/cardiffphoto6.html

follow the link and tell me if you see any english flags



Who is the girl (http://www.ourweecountry.btinternet.co.uk/cardiff142.jpg) on the right ?? ;)

[green goblin]

Oh my God! :eek: :eek: We've got one of the Clamppetts on this thread! Yeeee-haaaahhh! :D ;)
Cue theme from Deliverance... :)

[norn_iron_healy]

Cant remember her name but she goes out of one of our players, Smith i think..

[NY Hoop]

I still think tricolours defaced with english clubs is wrong. And I'm not the only one. So anybody who disagrees with you is an ar5ehole?! Get over yourself.

And for the record some of the 2nd/3rd/4th generation fans that I've met are more real fans than the ones born here. But then what do I know? I'm an ar5ehole!!! ;)

KOH

never personally met these so called Ireland fans on my travels to Dublin and worldwide following Ireland who disagree with club teams on the tricolour
You have actually met 2ND/3RD/4TH etc GEN Ireland supporters do you ask them 1st if they support an English club before engaging them in conversation[/QUOTE]

Mmm ok slowly re read my last post. If you cant I said ENGLISH clubs on the tricolour.

And yeah I do. That's what I say instead of hello, hi, or how's it going!! Well of course they support english clubs it's where they live.

Nice to see you cant disagree with someone without calling them names. You'll go a long way. :rolleyes:

KOH

[eoinh]

I did say @ the highest level.......even the H*ns would scrape past the whale-stabbers ;)

Sorry, there was me thinking Dunfermline played in the scottish premier division. :confused:

[lopez]

Cue theme from Deliverance... :)Sorry for the wind-up GG, but I drive tube trains and meet many of Chesham's finest on a too regular basis.

I'm actually from that delightful new town to the east of Chesham, which some people mistake as being the setting for the film 'The Martins' starring Lee Evans and Kathy Burke.

[Slash/ED]

How can you support a team based on standard? If Man U 'do a Leeds' will the people who support them based on the football they play start supporting Man U? If standard was the issue, Ireland would be flooded with La Liga shirts and Celtic wouldn't even get a mention. It's all about the exposure, there's constant EPL and SPL all over the TV and people start supporting these teams before they know anything else.

Anyway, the fun of being a football fan has **** all to do with standard of play, it's all about the rivalrys and the will to see your own team do well. Standard of play doesn't come into it, you can get exciting matches at any standard and equally so you can get boring matches at any standard too (Just watch the Juve Milan champions league final). I refuse to believe anyone has actively decided to support a team based entirely on the standard of football they play, if they did they'd have to be switching teams every few seasons.

[sylvo]

Cue theme from Deliverance... :)

Hey I whistle that as i'm speeding through King's Langley. :eek:

[ger121]

My sister is a big pool fan and goes to a lot of the games so I go with her, I'm a Bohs fan so she comes to the games with me. I think there is room for both. They don't really clash in my book. EL is a summer league and games are mostly played on a friday and Premier League is mostly Saturday or Sunday. I reckon I've been to more Liverpool games than a lot of Irish people who claim to be pool fans yet I wouldn't dare call myself a Liverpool supporter as I don't go to see them a lot in a year. My point being is that you can do both, just like you can support both GAA and football or Rugby.

[lopez]

Btw,thing eng.club names on tricolours is a good wind-up to the T*n fascist elements @ those clubs......where are you going to stop......Pub names,Davy K*hoe(Now that is offensive!),FFS?!The only thing offensive about Davy's flag was when he stuck 'and 747 travel' between 'K*hoe' and 'says.'

[Pat O' Banton]

How can you support a team based on standard? If Man U 'do a Leeds' will the people who support them based on the football they play start supporting Man U? If standard was the issue, Ireland would be flooded with La Liga shirts and Celtic wouldn't even get a mention. It's all about the exposure, there's constant EPL and SPL all over the TV and people start supporting these teams before they know anything else.

Anyway, the fun of being a football fan has **** all to do with standard of play, it's all about the rivalrys and the will to see your own team do well. Standard of play doesn't come into it, you can get exciting matches at any standard and equally so you can get boring matches at any standard too (Just watch the Juve Milan champions league final). I refuse to believe anyone has actively decided to support a team based entirely on the standard of football they play, if they did they'd have to be switching teams every few seasons.


Thank You one of the best posts on this subject.
I started going to Arsenal in 1980, this means that at one point in the early eighties I watched Arsenal with Talbot in midfield and Chapman up front. If anything I was more passionate about them then than I am now with Vieira and Henry in those positions.
Its also about going with your mates, having a laugh and your identity, going new places and seeing new grounds not about the facts and figures about how many accurate passes that Robbie Savage has given, and all that stuff that Sky and crap tabloids bombard us with. Leave that to people who would have looked at you like you were dirt a few years ago when they hated football.
As far as I'm concerned enterenining football is an added and unexpected bonus.

[NY Hoop]

Well,he is a :rolleyes: Ch*lsea fan............ ;)

Btw,thing eng.club names on tricolours is a good wind-up to the T*n fascist elements @ those clubs......where are you going to stop......Pub names,Davy K*hoe(Now that is offensive!),FFS?!

Agree about the fascist elements point. Wonder does he hang his flag at the bridge?!

K*hoe himself is an offense!

Great posts there slash and pat o. We're the real fans but the ole ole brigade will never understand that shouting at a tv screen on sunday...........

KOH

[Slash/ED]

Yes,when was the last time they finished in the top 3;40 yrs.ago under Jock Stein?Hate to say it,even the H*ns would scrape past the EL's best :eek:


They probably would but I think Shels would have given them a game this year if they got them in the UEFA or CL qualifyers. Beyond the top two there's not much difference between the remaining sides and the el sides, imo.

[Poor Student]

I agree with the sentiments of others here, the main crime is those who knock the eL without trying or without realising that their attitude helps perpetuate its significantly lower quality. It must be said though it is not easy to support an eL club. There is next to no TV coverage (it was even more awful before TV3), scant radio coverage and very poor coverage in the newspapers. I work in a newsagents on Sunday and I went through all of the so called Irish tabloids last Sunday to examine eL coverage. I think there was one column on Shels in the Sunday World and 2 pages in the Star on Sunday with a column by Roddy Collins and nothing else in the other papers. No league tables, fixtures or results. To be fair to Shels their European run actually did force some eL coverage in the tabloids briefly, but this is entirely centred on them. It's a chicken and egg situation. How can we get people to go to games without media coverage and how can we get the media to cover the league without good attendences and quality?

Shelbourne for one brief moment against Deportivo harnessed the potential of the league and managed to get over 20,000 fans to come to a single game involving an Irish club. Imagine how many people would be bothered with the league if every Irish tabloid backpage headline was about the eL? By burying the eL deep away from the back page it sends a message of inferiority out about the league. Our media must shoulder heavily the responsibility for the preference of Irish to choose the English game over our own. We saturate our back pages with columns and columns about the EPL, we dedicate a weekly highlights programme to the EPL on RTÉ of a far higher quality than our own weekly eL magazine on TV3. Whether it is right or wrong it makes business sense for the media to do so as they have created the sheer interest they cannot turn their backs on. The only possible solution is for our representatives in Europe next week to 'do a Shelbourne' in unison and progress through several rounds in European competition. I am aware Cork did this last year in the Inter Toto but sadly even their exploits were given pretty poor media coverage.