Football Rules, okay!

[BonnieShels]

The statistical bias is there because they flip a coin for who starts first...

All this stuff and we still have away goals scored in ET in a second leg. :O

[SkStu]

I like the idea of the 4th substitute in ET - I think it makes sense for a number of reasons. I also think I like the penalty stuff - it could add a lot of drama.

[BonnieShels]

Both laudable. But jesus... can we get someone to shout out about the away goal in ET!!!!

[OwlsFan]

Both laudable. But jesus... can we get someone to shout out about the away goal in ET!!!!

But the home team is still having the advantage of playing at home in ET so is that reasonably offset by the AG rule ? In other words, one team plays at home for 120 minutes and the other for 90 minutes. Is that not also unfair because of the toss of a coin ? I am just sayin' like.

[BonnieShels]

No way is it offset by as much as people think. The home advantage argument is often overplayed. Especially after 210min of football.

[DeLorean]

Just scrap extra time completely for two legged ties... and scrap the away goals rule too.

[osarusan]

If two teams are still completely level to the point that they need extra time in the 2nd leg, I don't think that extra 30 minutes is going to make much of a difference - not to the extent that an away goal should still count.

[DeLorean]

Looking at the Chelsea Man Utd game the other night too and the Herrera red card in the first half. The fact that extra time was playable meant that United would have had to survive the final hour of regular time plus extra time if they were to hold out for penalties. I'm not sure this is very fair either. In the GAA you are restored to your full complement for extra time and I think that makes a bit of sense, you wouldn't remain a man down if it went straight to a replay for example.

There's the obvious counter argument that if Herrera picked up the red card in injury time with the game going into extra time then United wouldn't have been really punished much at all, but that would be the case if extra time wasn't playable anyway.

[BonnieShels]

I think that penalties should be played before ET and the amount added to your total. Would open up the game if a team had to chase...

*runs*

[jbyrne]

I think that penalties should be played before ET and the amount added to your total. Would open up the game if a team had to chase...

*runs*

and have a 2nd set of penalties if its again level after ET?

[BonnieShels]

and have a 2nd set of penalties if its again level after ET?

That's why I wrote * runs *


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I dunno, go to sudden death after a drawn ET as I suggested...

[ArFella]

I think drawn games should be settled by a manager fight to the death!

[SkStu]

I think drawn games should be settled by a manager fight to the death!

If we're thinking outside the box, I think the casuals on both sides need to be let onto the pitch for a proper ruck. First set of fans to run away (always Rovers) loses.

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[BonnieShels]

Are you allowed use umbrellas?

[SkStu]

I think those decisions are best left up to IFAB.

[OwlsFan]

. The home advantage argument is often overplayed.

Tell that to PSG :)

[DannyInvincible]

Riyad Mahrez had the following goal from a penalty against Manchester City today disallowed as, due to slipping on his run up to take the kick, he committed an infringement by touching the ball twice without any other player having touched it between his first and second touches.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oakID9cHER8

No issue there; correct decision and well-spotted by the ref.

However, it got me thinking... If a penalty-taker hits the post or cross-bar from a penalty kick and the ball rebounds back to him for a tap-in (without any other player having touched or played the ball in between) and the penalty-taker then scores, shouldn't such a goal be disallowed? Although no specific example springs to mind right now, I'm nearly sure I've seen such rebounds scored and allowed before. Anyone have any insight on this?

[Hitman]

However, it got me thinking... If a penalty-taker hits the post or cross-bar from a penalty kick and the ball rebounds back to him for a tap-in (without any other player having touched or played the ball in between) and the penalty-taker then scores, shouldn't such a goal be disallowed? Although no specific example springs to mind right now, I'm nearly sure I've seen such rebounds scored and allowed before. Anyone have any insight on this?

Should definitely be disallowed, and I'm sure I've seen it happen but also helpfully can't remember when.


If, after the penalty kick has been taken:
the kicker touches the ball again (except with his hands) before it has touched
another player:
• an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken
from the place where the infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of
Free Kick)

[osarusan]

Has there been a rule change or some kind of revision to the advantage rule recently? Just saw in the Boro Southampton game - just outside the box,a player kind of dragged the ball behind him but the defender just held him and wouldn't let him get past. The ball came to another attacker, who curled a tame shot pretty much straight at the keeper. Ref then blew for the foul.

It wasn't a long advantage in terms of time, but the player had the chance to take, and took, a shot on goal. I was surprised it was called back, as 'advantage' is usually over when you get any chance to continue.