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geysir
19/12/2012, 2:19 PM
Is he not being used as an example of best practice/how youngsters should be brought into the squads?

Yes he is, I misunderstood that bit of the article and thought he was being used an example of how not to do things with the new Irish.
Sometimes I add to the confusion.
geysir
19/12/2012, 2:22 PM
Call him up Trap!

This one is beginning to grate like the "in the hole" shouts, just after a golfer has teed off at a par 5.
BonnieShels
19/12/2012, 2:22 PM
Lordy.



So who are the "indigenous Irish" exactly? Pure-blood Gaels? Is Ryder a surname of Gaelic origin? :rolleyes:

The democratic process is the public consultative process where Irish citizens can have their say on social policy. If there was a popular will for exclusion based on ethnicity from Ireland's civic conception of nationality, I'm sure we'd see the effects of it in democratic decision and policy-making. Thankfully, however, the reality is that such xenophobic views are minority fringe views. The vast majority of Irish people will either have no issue with such a story as this or will see it as overwhelmingly positive and culturally enriching.

Was that a comment at the bottom of the article?

Can't access it.
ArdeeBhoy
19/12/2012, 2:30 PM
See my link on the first page, BS.
BonnieShels
19/12/2012, 2:33 PM
Being Irish he should change his name to Pomme de Terre.

Or Barre Mars en friture?


What's Italian for Juventus youths?

This I like. Well played sir.


Anyway, Danny, I think it's article 18.1(a) :)

A pretender to Danny's throne has a arisen.
BonnieShels
19/12/2012, 2:40 PM
See my link on the first page, BS.

So the answer is yes.

I had read the article earlier and didn't want to wade through a (potential) rake of misinfomed gibber.

I was wondering if it was from OWC ya see.

Cheers though.

Yer man's a gas!

Also AB, be careful referring to the 'North'. People may start thinking you've been converted.
DannyInvincible
19/12/2012, 2:57 PM
A pretender to Danny's throne has a arisen.

Hold on there. I can't find any 2013 update of the statutes. The regulation concerned is 8.1(a) in the 2012 version. Stutts? :)
geysir
19/12/2012, 4:22 PM
So the answer is yes.

I had read the article earlier and didn't want to wade through a (potential) rake of misinfomed gibber.

Are you not the poster who is referred to as BS?
ArdeeBhoy
19/12/2012, 4:54 PM
Also AB, be careful referring to the 'North'. People may start thinking you've been converted.

You've lost me...

Sorry.
BonnieShels
19/12/2012, 7:03 PM
Are you not the poster who is referred to as BS?

I see what you Did there. always thought my acronym would come back to bite me.

AB, you referred to the North... not the north. And whilst I appreciate some peoples use of capitalized cardinal points in your case it amounts to tacit acceptance.
BonnieShels
19/12/2012, 7:05 PM
Eh... anyway.

The U15s came from 3-0 down to draw with the Aspire academy.
gastric
19/12/2012, 7:50 PM
Eh... anyway.

The U15s came from 3-0 down to draw with the Aspire academy.
Good on you Bonnie, this thread has gone off track completely.

A report on the game.

http://www.fai.ie/international/youth-teams/under-15/102952-ireland-u15-draw-3-3-with-aspire-in-doha.html
ArdeeBhoy
19/12/2012, 9:51 PM
AB, you referred to the North... not the north. And whilst I appreciate some peoples use of capitalized cardinal points in your case it amounts to tacit acceptance.

Except myself & the family have always known it thus. We did live there too.
Sorry, old chap.

Clearly you missed the 'Eligibility' thread...
:rolleyes:
DannyInvincible
20/12/2012, 8:55 AM
Jesus wept. Some forum for Ireland's BNP-equivalent neanderthals must have stumbled across the link to that Irish Times articles. The comments section has been flooded with embarrassing talk of "anti-white genocide" and "forced assimilation". Surely such though is not prevalent in modern Ireland?
BonnieShels
20/12/2012, 9:11 AM
Jesus wept. Some forum for Ireland's BNP-equivalent neanderthals must have stumbled across the link to that Irish Times articles. The comments section has been flooded with embarrassing talk of "anti-white genocide" and "forced assimilation". Surely such though is not prevalent in modern Ireland?

It's not to an extent. As a public sector worker you may find that our attitudes (I am not saying mine) may toe a line similar to those comments due to the very nature of the jobs and contact with immigrants but in general society I've seen nothing to suggest that there's a white-Ireland agenda. If anything it's gotten more positive as the years have gone on.
geysir
20/12/2012, 9:34 AM
It's not to an extent. As a public sector worker you may find that our attitudes (I am not saying mine) may toe a line similar to those comments due to the very nature of the jobs and contact with immigrants but in general society I've seen nothing to suggest that there's a white-Ireland agenda. If anything it's gotten more positive as the years have gone on.
Who can save us from the public service?
Those replies Danny referred to are from racists who believe in a Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG) conspiracy to commit genocide against (so called) whites, thereby further facilitating ZOG's exploitive ambitions. Anti-racism is regarded as anti-white.
If you don't accept this conspiracy theory, you are regarded as a brainwashed drone of the ZOG machine.
ArdeeBhoy
20/12/2012, 10:25 AM
DI's right.

Anti-Conspiracy/pro-the stuff Geysir articulated have invaded that forum. Crazy...
BonnieShels
20/12/2012, 10:47 AM
Who can save us from the public service?
Those replies Danny referred to are from racists who believe in a Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG) conspiracy to commit genocide against (so called) whites, thereby further facilitating ZOG's exploitive ambitions. Anti-racism is regarded as anti-white.
If you don't accept this conspiracy theory, you are regarded as a brainwashed drone of the ZOG machine.

I still thought he was on about yer man from yesterday.

I haven't bothered looking at the article's comments today.
DannyInvincible
20/12/2012, 10:57 AM
How does the concept of "forced assimilation" work exactly? Are there breeding pens on the streets of Dublin yet?
SkStu
20/12/2012, 11:10 AM
Yes, but we don't like to boast about them...
geysir
20/12/2012, 12:23 PM
Must be a north Dublin thing.
BonnieShels
20/12/2012, 12:29 PM
They have them in Dun Laoghaire too.

Councils are rolling them out on a pilot basis.
Stuttgart88
20/12/2012, 4:41 PM
Hold on there. I can't find any 2013 update of the statutes. The regulation concerned is 8.1(a) in the 2012 version. Stutts? :)ah yes, but at the time it ruled Arteta out, it was article 18!
Eminence Grise
21/12/2012, 9:59 PM
Are there breeding pens on the streets of Dublin yet?

Yes, but by day they double up as bus shelters.
Crosby87
21/12/2012, 10:02 PM
How does the concept of "forced assimilation" work exactly? Are there breeding pens on the streets of Dublin yet?

Its like the Borg, from Star Trek. Picard was lucky to avoid them but Trap is old and less nimble, and may be assimilated.
ArdeeBhoy
26/12/2012, 11:20 PM
Another take with most of the usual suspects...
http://www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/27-football/743057-the-roi-s-multiethnic-future
tommy_c12000
26/12/2012, 11:54 PM
Seeing this thread again reminded me of a point I wanted to make.

Front page of the Sunday Times Sport from a couple of weeks back there was an article on 2 Irish U15 players who had to pull out of this tournament because they screened positive for a possible Heart condition. They were forced to pull out of the squad and went for further evaluation. They subsequently were given the all clear, however, the tournament had come and gone by this stage. The article went on to praise how great the FAI are for having this screening program in place for a number of years, etc.

The fact of the matter is that two talented soccer players missed out on the tournament even though they were perfectly healthy. They had a screening ECG which probably showed a bigger than normal heart (common in athletes) or less likely a conduction problem. How in God's name did it take so long to get an Echocardiogram and a cardiologist consult to give them the all clear??? This surely could have been sorted the same day or the next day at the very latest for these international sportsmen considering what was at stake. It stinks of amateurism and certainly did not deserve the praise the article bestowed upon it. Bottom line, yes it is important to screen every soccer player with an ECG (and fair play to the FAI for doing this), but with the volume of false positives associated with this test, surely the confirmatory tests need to be done a lot quicker to avoid a similar situation in the future.

Rant over.
Charlie Darwin
27/12/2012, 12:29 AM
That was last week (i.e. a week and half ago) if I remember correctly. The FAI were absolutely right to withdraw the players from competition - I don't know how quickly confirmatory tests can be made available, but they acted in the kids' best interests and they should be commended for it.
tetsujin1979
27/12/2012, 12:46 AM
once the alarm was raised, the FAI acted correctly in withdrawing the boys from competition until the all clear was given. if anything,your argument is with the specialists who examined their cases. Consider the opposite, they let the boys play, even though they knew something was amiss, then who is to blame?
tommy_c12000
27/12/2012, 10:09 AM
The point I was making is that it took too long to give these boys the all clear, if it meant them missing out on the tournament. Surely the FAI don't just simply refer these boys to the HSE for further care, I'd hope that they would take a more hands on approach and ensure they get quick assessment. Judging by the article, the likely scenario was that the ECG showed a big heart, so HOCM (a la Marc Vivien Foe) had to be ruled out. This can be done promptly with an Echocardiogram and a consultant to confirm. Don't really see why it should have taken so long. .
Charlie Darwin
27/12/2012, 1:01 PM
Do you seriously think the FAI saw these guys' results and went "ah grand, sure we'll send them on to a consultant in a few months"?
geysir
27/12/2012, 1:47 PM
Trusting that FAI medic got the earliest available appointment for the ECG and echocardiogram tests, the FAI should have had a 10 seater jet on standby to whisk them out to Qatar as soon as the all-clear was given.
liamoo11
27/12/2012, 9:10 PM
The point I was making is that it took too long to give these boys the all clear, if it meant them missing out on the tournament. Surely the FAI don't just simply refer these boys to the HSE for further care, I'd hope that they would take a more hands on approach and ensure they get quick assessment. Judging by the article, the likely scenario was that the ECG showed a big heart, so HOCM (a la Marc Vivien Foe) had to be ruled out. This can be done promptly with an Echocardiogram and a consultant to confirm. Don't really see why it should have taken so long. .

Screening is a really interesting topic. To the general public it sounds like it is a great idea but in most screening situations it is very far from clearcut. Professor Baum in the uk introduced breast screening in the uk 15 years ago in a move that was considered life changing. I think he may have been knighted even for it. On the face of it it would seem a huge advance. Professor Baum now wants screening to be stopped as he feels it has not cut mortality and has led to unacceptable levels of unneccesary mastectomies and anxiety for women. I heard him describe breast screening introduction as the greatest regret of his life. Really challenges our simplified view of the world
cornflakes
02/01/2013, 2:01 PM
Interview with Niall Harrison about the trip to Doha

http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/813/360741/
Dermotron
14/02/2013, 9:26 PM
Conor Levingston is due to join Wolves in July 2014
Charlie Darwin
14/02/2013, 9:32 PM
Conor Levingston is due to join Wolves in July 2014
Good to see Wolves haven't severed their Irish links with Mick's departure.
CraftyToePoke
17/02/2013, 3:50 AM
Good to see Wolves haven't severed their Irish links with Mick's departure.

They had McGann of Limerick over on trial also recently.
liamoo11
28/09/2013, 5:44 AM
http://www.fai.ie/international/youth-teams/under-16/103559-ireland-s-u16s-cruise-to-6-0-win-over-estonia.html http://www.fai.ie/international/youth-teams/under-15/103569-ireland-u16s-record-second-impressive-win-over-estonia.html


This group at under16s now played well. lovely evening in killarney nice football. There are some of the goals on the rte player saw them the other night cant find them now!The masterson lad is so tall looked good in killarney has a nice turn of pace and decent passer. I assume he will move over to the pool this summer.