2013 Fixtures.

[Guinney]

Happy with the fixtures list especially with the teams we got at home twice this year and also we have 17 instead of 16 games at home. Dundalk were screwed over last season with the fixtures and the fixtures have been reversed this year which suits us, but at the same time I still don't think playing each team 3 times works as some teams are always going to screwed over.

I'd say Sligo vs Derry would be the game on TV. To be honest I'd much prefer not to be on the telly as I will in the ground either way and some of the part-timers may choose to stay at home and all they do is moan about how bad Oriel looks on the telly.

[adamd164]

Our game vs Limerick was clearly arranged to help Lims kick start with a big crowd at Thomond. Which makes sense, well done to the FAI.

Looking forward to it big time. There will be a big crowd from Cork, especially with it being on in Thomond and all the talk of Limerick's money.

[Trainee]

Any idea why FAI dont do the as most other leagues where League winners play their first game of the season at home?

[Lim till i die]

There will be a big crowd from Cork, especially with it being on in Thomond and all the talk of Limerick's money.

We're not going to be giving any of it away. :good:

[oriel]

I'd rank Dundalk v Rovers 4th in any likely TV game

Derry Sligo
Limerick Cork
Pats Drogheda

Not that it matters much, but there is no way Limerick v Cork or Pats v Drogs would have been more attractive for TV, I would say it probably will be the league champions as usual kicking off the live tv game.

Actually better chance of a bigger crowd if we are not live that night.

[pineapple stu]

it will defo be derry vs sligo no question.. cup winners vs league champions like..
Don't think it's that definite; you could probably get more general interest in the Limerick v Cork game from Thomond. But certainly those are the two obvious candidates.

[Dodge]

... why?

Top side in Dublin v top side in Louth. Better than 2nd best team in Dublin v worst side in Louth

Clearly ;)

[adamd164]

Don't think it's that definite; you could probably get more general interest in the Limerick v Cork game from Thomond. But certainly those are the two obvious candidates.
I hope our game isn't on TV, there'll be a much bigger crowd if not.

[pineapple stu]

Anyone else feel like the first game is in a couple of weeks away rather than almost three months away?

[BonnieShels]

Anyone else feel like the first game is in a couple of weeks away rather than almost three months away?

Yes.

I was initially excited and then I realised that fact. GAH! With the NHL acting the maggot I have no sport really until GAA returns in January. :(

[oriel]

We should see some bumper crowds on the opening night with Derry V Sligo, Limerick V Cork and Dundalk V Rovers, good draw for the league.

Yes good shout. Cork usually have a great crowd if they open at home, so would imagine they will take hundreds to Limerick, esp with the Thomond factor. Same for Sligo, not too far a journey, well for them I suppose. And Rovers will take over 500 to Oriel Park.

I'd say we might get close to 3k for our game, mabye 3,500 in Derry, and I really cant predict the Thomond game, could be anything from a moderate 2k to 5? Who knows.

[Dodge]

Good to hear homes crowds of 3k expected in Dundalk for the new season as they were down to about 500 for the end of last season. New broom and all that

[oriel]

Now now Dodge, dont be at it, we got just over 1,500 for the last home game, albeit a play off, but will admit less than 500 for the previous proper season game v Bray. First game always generates a good crowd, Rovers visting even better, new broom indeed, but will it last..............probably not

[Mr A]

Anyone else feel like the first game is in a couple of weeks away rather than almost three months away?

I feel these fixtures simply detract from the real drama in the LOI- licensing. We need a marketing campaign to explain to the world how dramatic and awesome licensing is and we also need to find a way to monetize that. WWE would have nothing on it.

"And it's the FAI, fresh from beating GUST unconscious in the locker room, with the steel chair to the back of Limerick's head! But look at this, Limerick are using their signature move (legal action) and they bounce back and pin their assailants!"

[Pablo Escobar]

Yes good shout. Cork usually have a great crowd if they open at home, so would imagine they will take hundreds to Limerick, esp with the Thomond factor. Same for Sligo, not too far a journey, well for them I suppose. And Rovers will take over 500 to Oriel Park.

I'd say we might get close to 3k for our game, mabye 3,500 in Derry, and I really cant predict the Thomond game, could be anything from a moderate 2k to 5? Who knows.

It is difficult to predict the crowd that will be in Thomond. There will be hype in Cork as usual and Limerick like a bandwagon even more than ourselves. We brought about 700/800 (guesstimation, totally open to correction) to Limerick in our first year in Div 1. We'll surely manage 1,000 in Thomond. I'd say Limerick with proper hype could pull 3,000 themselves. But, as you say, it's hard to predict.

[Charlie Darwin]

How many showed up for the cup game a couple of years ago between you two? That was in Cork though I think.

[NeverFeltBetter]

It is difficult to predict the crowd that will be in Thomond. There will be hype in Cork as usual and Limerick like a bandwagon even more than ourselves. We brought about 700/800 (guesstimation, totally open to correction) to Limerick in our first year in Div 1. We'll surely manage 1,000 in Thomond. I'd say Limerick with proper hype could pull 3,000 themselves. But, as you say, it's hard to predict.

Possibly...if the weather is good and it isn't on TV.

[bluewhitearmy]

It is difficult to predict the crowd that will be in Thomond. There will be hype in Cork as usual and Limerick like a bandwagon even more than ourselves. We brought about 700/800 (guesstimation, totally open to correction) to Limerick in our first year in Div 1. We'll surely manage 1,000 in Thomond. I'd say Limerick with proper hype could pull 3,000 themselves. But, as you say, it's hard to predict.


Tbh rather unusually when it comes to people judging what they brought i think you have underestimated it id say it was very very near if not over 1000.

[Pablo Escobar]

Tbh rather unusually when it comes to people judging what they brought i think you have underestimated it id say it was very very near if not over 1000.
I was initially going to say 1,000, but I allowed for your theory myself :D

[El-Pietro]

How many showed up for the cup game a couple of years ago between you two? That was in Cork though I think.292.League cup game on a Champions League Tuesday in either 2008 or 09. Great fun.

[Charlie Darwin]

292.League cup game on a Champions League Tuesday in either 2008 or 09. Great fun.
Just the 9,700 more to attract then.

[patrickccfc]

292.League cup game on a Champions League Tuesday in either 2008 or 09. Great fun.
i remember that game, was good craic alright.. united vs barca in the champions league sem-final the same night if i remember correctly

[Jofspring]

Just the 9,700 more to attract then.

It's ok this bandwagon should be hanging around outside Thomond Park come the end of the Heineken Cup pool games.

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[Jofspring]

Do clubs get any say on games being moved for Televised reasons?

Word going around that our match could be moved to Sunday evening instead of Friday. It will be a disaster. A lot of Cork fans will probably change their minds about traveling, people in Limerick will decide to watch it on telly before going to see what the team is like and they are going to run it tight with junior soccer matches that kick off at 2.

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think clubs have any discretion. Sligo regularly get annoyed about being moved to Saturday afternoon. As far as I know, the participation agreement boils down to "you play when we tell you to play."

[Jofspring]

I don't think clubs have any discretion. Sligo regularly get annoyed about being moved to Saturday afternoon. As far as I know, the participation agreement boils down to "you play when we tell you to play."

Madness if they go a head with the move. A potential 3,000 crowd could more than likely be cut by 50%.

[nigel-harps1954]

To be honest, I'd say most people would still go for the novelty of Thomond Parks first LOI match.

[Jofspring]

To be honest, I'd say most people would still go for the novelty of Thomond Parks first LOI match.

If it is televised I suppose there is two ways it could possibly go:

1: The match is televised in front of an average crowd but we win with a good performance and it attracts more people out that saw the game on telly

or

2: It brings the attendance down to an average crowd, we get beat and it has an even bigger hit on the next home game (UCD).

We need to build momentum with crowds and I think televising it will have a dampener on it. A game televised later in the season when we have possibly attracted a few more regulars wouldn't have as bad a hit.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Ye get no choice. As Charlie said its very annoying. We had very few games on a Saturday evening last season due to TV.

[Pablo Escobar]

Madness if they go a head with the move. A potential 3,000 crowd could more than likely be cut by 50%.
50%?? Our fickleness is only trotting after Limerick!!

[redobit]

Do clubs get any say on games being moved for Televised reasons?

Word going around that our match could be moved to Sunday evening instead of Friday. It will be a disaster. A lot of Cork fans will probably change their minds about traveling, people in Limerick will decide to watch it on telly before going to see what the team is like and they are going to run it tight with junior soccer matches that kick off at 2.

Welcome to the premier ...

Just to bring you up to speed. The RTE director picks the slot. So when they have a time to fill, in goes a LOI match. And that payment the home team used to get for the fall in gate, the FAI hold on to that. But its Ok cause they put into the overall 'prizemoney' for the league - which I think has been cut for the last 3 or 4 seasons in a row!

[Dillonman]

Dundalk v Drogs at Oriel on Good Friday has now been pulled forward a day to the Thursday night.

[Ezeikial]

Welcome to the premier ...

Just to bring you up to speed. The RTE director picks the slot. So when they have a time to fill, in goes a LOI match. And that payment the home team used to get for the fall in gate, the FAI hold on to that. But its Ok cause they put into the overall 'prizemoney' for the league - which I think has been cut for the last 3 or 4 seasons in a row!


RTE does not pay a per match fee, but has an overall deal with the FAI to include internationals, MNS and live LoI matches. Clubs used to get a share of a modest FAI TV fund if they had a certain number of live televised matches screened in a season, and although it hardly compensated clubs for loss of gate money, at least it was some financial recognition for clubs who regularly featured on live TV matches. The current system of no consultation / no compensation is unfair and should be revisited but is not the full picture.

The FAI claim that they spend more then they take in on the league and have been compelled to make cutbacks which include eliminating this TV fund and reducing prize money. The clubs themselves have recognised that there is no credible alternative to the FAI administration of the league, which in effect accepts this financial reality!

The potential benefit of TV exposure is fairly obvious in terms of promoting the league product to a wider audience along with the attractions for sponsors. Clubs do benefit financially in this way, but seem unable to maximise this to the extent of compensating for the lost gate receipts.

This is where the real question lies - why are clubs and the league unable to capitalise on this exposure?

Or would the league be better off without live TV / MNS ?

[redobit]

^
Of course TV/ MNS is good for the league, without doubt. Its the lack of input on start times by the clubs that gets to fans. Its pretty obvious that little consideration is given to fans with the scheduling of some games.

The FAi can claim what ever they like but is it not the case that each clubs participation fee into the league is less than the total prizemoney handed out!. Thats not including the sponorship they receive on the league. (ffs we had to pay for our medals, the referees, the stewards and to bring some FAI vips over from Dublin and put them up in a hotel for a League cup final a couple of years ago) Then you have the FAI cup final prize money coming from the gate receipts, while all the time the FAI get 30% of every cup game played in the season. It dosen't add up for me. If I can be enlightened on it, then great ...

[legendz]

Happy with the fixtures list especially with the teams we got at home twice this year and also we have 17 instead of 16 games at home. Dundalk were screwed over last season with the fixtures and the fixtures have been reversed this year which suits us, but at the same time I still don't think playing each team 3 times works as some teams are always going to screwed over.

I'd say Sligo vs Derry would be the game on TV. To be honest I'd much prefer not to be on the telly as I will in the ground either way and some of the part-timers may choose to stay at home and all they do is moan about how bad Oriel looks on the telly.

Is it set in stone that fixtures are reversed every year? I presume Limerick took the place of the demised Monaghan in reversing the fixtures. If two teams had come up from the first division, how would they decide who took which teams place for the reversing of fixtures?

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

It's not set in stone