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thomas72
11/10/2012, 2:52 PM
Chairman: we are only looking to bring in people who are similar to what we have already someone with a little something special.

Interview with the post.

http://www.limerickpost.ie/index.php/navigation-mainmenu-30/dropline-menu-mainmenu-34/5017-limerick-fc-clinch-division-one-title.html

4 or 5 good players into the first 11 for next season and we might surprise a few people there is a few areas in the team that needs strengthening. We have a squad that would survive comfortable as it stands we should try and improve again if possible.

nigel-harps1954
11/10/2012, 3:06 PM
We're*

thomas72
11/10/2012, 3:15 PM
We're*

centre half is the main area we have no pace prob need two good centre halfs a winger and maybe another striker beside Rory foley is finished imo and behan needs to have a big pre season and come back in alot leaner and fitter than this season.

NeverFeltBetter
11/10/2012, 3:22 PM
Foley has been disappointing all right. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Gaffney may not be with the club in time for next season, there were rumors of interest from across the pond. Behan is aging, though still decent. Collins is improving, but I think will struggle in the top tier for a while. For all those reasons, a new striker is a most.

Jofspring
11/10/2012, 3:32 PM
I think foley will be better in the premier. He seems to be very fit ad has bags of experience against quality centre halves.

We need out and out wingers, a centre back and a left full. We were lucky Shane didn't pick up injuries this season. In saying that everyone is raving about Anto O Donnell so I'd like to see him get a chance.

Will be interesting to see who pops up on the transfer list.

El-Pietro
16/10/2012, 8:04 AM
We're*

nah its were as in they weren't looking for medal hunters in the past, but they want all the mercenaries they can get!!! :D

kingpin4
16/10/2012, 12:21 PM
Right, without trying to wind people up or anything, has anyone else heard the rumours of Scully and all his coaching staff leaving? anyone from the club on this can clarify? I don't even live in the city and I heard late last night, was told its pretty widespread round town. Any truth? Any thoughts? If it's bull, happy to take it down.

Jofspring
16/10/2012, 12:25 PM
In today's chronicle that Scully is going to sit down with the board and have a chat with them. If his view/ideas for the future and the clubs are different then he will move on. Pat O Sullivan feels Scully deserves a crack at the premier with limerick seens as he got us promoted.

kingpin4
16/10/2012, 12:27 PM
It'd be a shame to lose everyone as there's be no continuity at all there. You'd imagine a new manager would want some of the old staff there who know the players and how the club works. I'd like to see it for the players too, a new manager might not like Gaffney, or Paddy or someone else.

NeverFeltBetter
16/10/2012, 2:37 PM
I've said before that I don't think Scully, having the team play the way they have, has a long term future with the club, but I'd be really surprised if he isn't the manager next year. His job was to get them up, he's done that.

Hitman
16/10/2012, 2:59 PM
I ask purely out of idle curiosity, but is Scully based full-time in Limerick?

bluewhitearmy
16/10/2012, 3:47 PM
I ask purely out of idle curiosity, but is Scully based full-time in Limerick?


Nope, lives in Kildare or somewhere near there.

Jofspring
16/10/2012, 4:11 PM
Ya lives in Kildare and is a taxi driver in Dublin.

bluewhitearmy
16/10/2012, 5:12 PM
This surely has to be bad news for Scully why would they have a meeting to discuss his future if he had their full backing. I think it could be a bit harsh to get rid of him after he got us up but it could be whats best for the team.

Jofspring
16/10/2012, 5:35 PM
It's seems like a mutual meeting going by the paper. Maybe they need to discuss in more detail what kind of investment in the first team will happen etc..... I'd say they have a meeting like this every year so the board and Scully both know were they stand.

gael353
16/10/2012, 11:07 PM
a new manager might not like Gaffney, or Paddy or someone else.


:0 or Barry Ryan or Derick O'Brien :)

hotspur
17/10/2012, 8:46 AM
Is his contract up?

sadloserkid
17/10/2012, 10:45 AM
If he's pushed out it would actually be a thundering disgrace of Newcastle United/Mike Ashley style nonsense. I'm not convinced wholly by Scully by any stretch but he's gotten us up and deserves a crack at it. He could very easily have taken off when Jack McCarthy was trying to wind us up too but showed some loyalty.

Everything Pat O'Sullivan has done so far has been more Jack Walker than Venkys. I believe POS has a bit more class than to toss the league winning manager aside before the season is even completely finished. I hope I'm right.

Market's Field
17/10/2012, 12:16 PM
Mentioning POS and Venkys in the same sentence is just so WRONG :-)

bluewhitearmy
17/10/2012, 1:45 PM
If he's pushed out it would actually be a thundering disgrace of Newcastle United/Mike Ashley style nonsense. I'm not convinced wholly by Scully by any stretch but he's gotten us up and deserves a crack at it. He could very easily have taken off when Jack McCarthy was trying to wind us up too but showed some loyalty.

Everything Pat O'Sullivan has done so far has been more Jack Walker than Venkys. I believe POS has a bit more class than to toss the league winning manager aside before the season is even completely finished. I hope I'm right.


While i think it would be very harsh i don't see why it would be a disgrace is that purely because we got up with him? This is a massively important time for the club and surely if the board think they could find someone better suited to start putting down foundations for a team to be successful in the premier then they should do that?

I can see where you are coming from don't get me wrong just wondering do you think Scully will actually be a success long term in the top league.

CraftyToePoke
17/10/2012, 8:20 PM
Right, without trying to wind people up or anything, has anyone else heard the rumours of Scully and all his coaching staff leaving? anyone from the club on this can clarify? I don't even live in the city and I heard late last night, was told its pretty widespread round town. Any truth? Any thoughts? If it's bull, happy to take it down.

I deleted something I put on here last night, mainly as I cant link to it/prove it and didn't want to cause trouble for myself, this site, the club and am in no way shape or form ITK on Limerick FC or claiming to be. But I heard some weeks back (with three league games still to play) that Scully would be gone next season regardless of the seasons outcome, and that the home defeat to Waterford was the tipping point.

I was also told in the same conversation the name of his likely replacement, at least at that point, which was my main reason for removing the post. I didn't really pay much mind to it, as as much as I don't rate Scully as the man to kick the club on, mainly due to the home form (which in the Prem will be vital I feel), I reckoned if he got us up he would have earned his chance to fail next season.

Now, having read this on here, I am beginning to wonder if was worth a little tickle. Still unlikely I reckon, but this post made me re think it, and how unlikely others on here wouldn't know if there were anything in it.

sadloserkid
17/10/2012, 9:54 PM
While i think it would be very harsh i don't see why it would be a disgrace is that purely because we got up with him? This is a massively important time for the club and surely if the board think they could find someone better suited to start putting down foundations for a team to be successful in the premier then they should do that?

I can see where you are coming from don't get me wrong just wondering do you think Scully will actually be a success long term in the top league.

I do think Scully would keep us up for what it's worth and I think that would make him a comparative success in the short term at least. I'm not sure how much further he'd take us and wouldn't be convinced he'll be a roaring success in the longer term but I do believe that he has earned a chance at that purely on the basis that he's won the first division. Ultimately he's had a successful season this year and as a result I'd like to see him given an opportunity to try and show that he can carry the club forward. I'll be disappointed in the club if they toss him to the side now, just as I was when Mike Kerley was shafted the first time he left the club, I'll still support them as I do now but I do think, personally, that it would show a lack of character of behalf of those making the decisions at the club. Wouldn't be the end of the world but I'd still prefer not to see it happen.

Jofspring
17/10/2012, 10:56 PM
There is two ways he could look at it, Scully leaves now and will be remembered as a success and the manager that got us back to the Premier after nearly 19 years or he continues on for another season with the possibility of struggling and leaving on a poorer vibe.

He may not even want to continue managing us commuting down either. He has done his job that he set out to do, get us promoted over a 4 year period so maybe he will be happy to walk away having done that.

NeverFeltBetter
17/10/2012, 11:03 PM
Weird thought, but are there any clubs out there that might be interested in Scully?

kingpin4
18/10/2012, 12:40 AM
Incidentally, if he was to go, whether that's mutually or one side walking/pushing, how does that leave the structures he has in place? I mean, going by the website, there's an assistant manager, a coaching assistant, a goalkeeping coach, a performance coach, a sports scientist a physio and a scout, presumably the club wouldn't sack 7 other people would they? And like I said, manager X could come in and want a whole new team, which would be a shame in my eyes. Maybe if Buckley got it, he would want to bring Sean O'Connor with him ;)

Charlie Darwin
18/10/2012, 1:18 AM
If he's pushed out it would actually be a thundering disgrace of Newcastle United/Mike Ashley style nonsense. I'm not convinced wholly by Scully by any stretch but he's gotten us up and deserves a crack at it. He could very easily have taken off when Jack McCarthy was trying to wind us up too but showed some loyalty.

Everything Pat O'Sullivan has done so far has been more Jack Walker than Venkys. I believe POS has a bit more class than to toss the league winning manager aside before the season is even completely finished. I hope I'm right.
Is Pat O'Sullivan a tax exile too?

Lim till i die
18/10/2012, 1:25 AM
Is Pat O'Sullivan a tax exile too?

No, but he has a flat cap and a whippet

Lim till i die
18/10/2012, 1:36 AM
Actually good that a shamrock fan posted here as I came in to give my two cents which is that we're in quite a similar place to the one shamrock were in when they had Scully and he served a purpose.

Is he Jose Mourinho? No. But he's a safeish pair of hands while we stabalise.

We talk about the premier like it's amassive thing but there's a fair share of rubbish up there as well. With the three or four new faces we're bound to get we should be ok. And if we're not we can always look at it in June.

We're waiting over 300 years for promotion, now's no time to be hasty

Charlie Darwin
18/10/2012, 1:47 AM
Is he Jose Mourinho?
Yes.

http://www.extratime.ie/media/extratime/images/articles/sa-scully_1.png

bluewhitearmy
18/10/2012, 1:59 AM
Yes.

http://www.extratime.ie/media/extratime/images/articles/sa-scully_1.png

What was he like in prem with ye? Still all hoof ball?

Charlie Darwin
18/10/2012, 2:11 AM
Oh God yeah. Reasonably effective though.

Minesapint
18/10/2012, 9:02 AM
While i think it would be very harsh i don't see why it would be a disgrace is that purely because we got up with him? This is a massively important time for the club and surely if the board think they could find someone better suited to start putting down foundations for a team to be successful in the premier then they should do that?

I can see where you are coming from don't get me wrong just wondering do you think Scully will actually be a success long term in the top league.
Scully has the experience in the premier division and i think he has set a foundation, there is some week sides in the premier so i do expect us to hit the ground running next year,the style might not have suited people but we are still progressing.

bluewhitearmy
18/10/2012, 1:20 PM
Scully has the experience in the premier division and i think he has set a foundation, there is some week sides in the premier so i do expect us to hit the ground running next year,the style might not have suited people but we are still progressing.


There are very few sides up there weaker then the likes of Waterford and look how we did there also i dont mind hoofing the ball if it works but that fact is with the players we have we would be far better actually playing a bit.

Jofspring
18/10/2012, 5:58 PM
Even the likes of bray and UCD are stronger than Longford and Waterford so every game will be tough. Any mistakes in our tactics etc... Will be exposed much easier than in the first.

We scrapped a lot of wins this season due to the lack of quality from the opposition, we won't get away with that in the premier.

Scully does not seem to be up to it at all tactically going on our big game record.

If we try play the same way in the premier we will really struggle. If Scully changes the way he has us playing we will more than hold our own.

kingpin4
19/10/2012, 11:08 AM
Scully does not seem to be up to it at all tactically going on our big game record.

If we try play the same way in the premier we will really struggle. If Scully changes the way he has us playing we will more than hold our own.

I actually think tactically he'll be fine in the premier. It looks like at times this year, he's been guilty of over thinking tactics, but you could win the first division with 11 grafters. The reason I think we struggled at times is because we didn't have enough of them. But the 3 occasions we've played premier teams this year, its been much better football. Bradley and O'Leary are a lot more suited to it and with a bit more space to play in, I think it could be a really good season.

bluewhitearmy
19/10/2012, 12:25 PM
I actually think tactically he'll be fine in the premier. It looks like at times this year, he's been guilty of over thinking tactics, but you could win the first division with 11 grafters. The reason I think we struggled at times is because we didn't have enough of them. But the 3 occasions we've played premier teams this year, its been much better football. Bradley and O'Leary are a lot more suited to it and with a bit more space to play in, I think it could be a really good season.


We did do well in 3 games against prem teams but people always leave out the fact we were tore apart by Rovers when we had our full team out.

kingpin4
19/10/2012, 1:32 PM
We did do well in 3 games against prem teams but people always leave out the fact we were tore apart by Rovers when we had our full team out.

True, but we also played 2 games in the 3 days before that. Id have much rather we stuck the 19s out against City and try beat Rovers then. I'd say that was in part down to bad timing of the City game. The lads were dead on their feet after 50 minutes in the Rovers game.

bluewhitearmy
19/10/2012, 1:56 PM
True, but we also played 2 games in the 3 days before that. Id have much rather we stuck the 19s out against City and try beat Rovers then. I'd say that was in part down to bad timing of the City game. The lads were dead on their feet after 50 minutes in the Rovers game.


I had forgotten about that actually... If we could get the same level of performance from the other games against Prem teams next season we will more then hold our own. Played some lovely football in Tallaght the first time and in Bray too.

Jofspring
19/10/2012, 4:25 PM
I actually think tactically he'll be fine in the premier. It looks like at times this year, he's been guilty of over thinking tactics, but you could win the first division with 11 grafters. The reason I think we struggled at times is because we didn't have enough of them. But the 3 occasions we've played premier teams this year, its been much better football. Bradley and O'Leary are a lot more suited to it and with a bit more space to play in, I think it could be a really good season.

I still feel maybe even team selection wise he needs to vastly improve. There were games that had change for the sake of change. Personally i'd give him a chance up there. My only worry is after a few months if it isn't working out we have a new manager come in with players he doesn't necessarily want.

bluewhitearmy
20/10/2012, 9:18 PM
I'm really confused about the whole Scully thing now in one way i see the point sadloserkid is making about sticking with him because he got us up but from talking to a few people it appears an awful lot of players in the premier dont like him at all is it worth keeping him when his history of falling out with players could cost us?

kingpin4
20/10/2012, 10:11 PM
I'm really confused about the whole Scully thing now in one way i see the point sadloserkid is making about sticking with him because he got us up but from talking to a few people it appears an awful lot of players in the premier dont like him at all is it worth keeping him when his history of falling out with players could cost us?

To be fair, a lot of players from Limerick have fallen out with him as well. I asked one of the current players about it once and all they said was "if you train hard, look after yourself and do what he wants, then you'll have no problem with him"
maybe his standards are too high or he expects too much from part time footballers? If that is true, I wouldn't really hold that against him.

bluewhitearmy
20/10/2012, 10:23 PM
To be fair, a lot of players from Limerick have fallen out with him as well. I asked one of the current players about it once and all they said was "if you train hard, look after yourself and do what he wants, then you'll have no problem with him"
maybe his standards are too high or he expects too much from part time footballers? If that is true, I wouldn't really hold that against him.


I know for sure that he has fallen out with people for very stupid reasons dont think ill say what happened out in the open on this but some of the carry on i have been told about is ridiculous and will come back on us sooner or later if he is still there.

El-Pietro
21/10/2012, 10:58 AM
and the fact that he has a terrible record with you against any half decent side? I can't understand why he has any support left among Limerick fans. Even this year ye struggled against Waterford and Longford, teams ye should have been comfortably beating.

Minesapint
24/10/2012, 8:26 AM
I know for sure that he has fallen out with people for very stupid reasons dont think ill say what happened out in the open on this but some of the carry on i have been told about is ridiculous and will come back on us sooner or later if he is still there.
Players signed for limerick last year not because of their love for the manager but for financial reasons, if the contract is right im sure the player will sign.

bluewhitearmy
24/10/2012, 12:45 PM
Players signed for limerick last year not because of their love for the manager but for financial reasons, if the contract is right im sure the player will sign.


And now some of our better players are considering leaving over the manager which is exactly what we need when we are going up im sure.

NeverFeltBetter
24/10/2012, 2:34 PM
What ever happened with Gaffney and the (rumored) interest from England? Was it just BS, or is there still something there?

bluewhitearmy
24/10/2012, 3:05 PM
What ever happened with Gaffney and the (rumored) interest from England? Was it just BS, or is there still something there?


Ipswich looked at him a few times alright nothing come of it yet..... He was supposed to sign for St.Johnstone before he signed for us but their manager left to take over Bristol City before the deal was done. Id be more concerned about losing him to a LOI team then to England being honest.

Jofspring
24/10/2012, 3:06 PM
What ever happened with Gaffney and the (rumored) interest from England? Was it just BS, or is there still something there?

Think they just decided to have a look at him again and nothing more. Lots of scouts floating around the league throughout the season. Being in the premier next year will likely attract more interested in some of our players.

Minesapint
25/10/2012, 8:46 AM
And now some of our better players are considering leaving over the manager which is exactly what we need when we are going up im sure.
Like who of our better players are going because of the manager?.

bluewhitearmy
25/10/2012, 1:58 PM
Like who of our better players are going because of the manager?.

I never said they are going i said they are considering it other people at the club are trying to convince them to stay...