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elroy
11/09/2012, 11:33 AM
Just "reported" rather than confirmed but seems to be credible.

God dont fancy playing them in Wembley in the state we are at the moment.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/ireland-set-to-play-england-in-may-566489.html

It has been reported that the Republic of Ireland will play England in a friendly at Wembley next year.

It will form part of the English FA’s 150-year anniversary celebrations next May.

The two nations have not played each other since their February 1995 clash in Lansdowne Road which was postponed after 27 minutes when England fans started rioting.

It is a coup for the FAI who had tried to arrange a meeting with England prior to the European Championships, but was shelved when the draw for the competition brought the possibility of the two facing each other in the quarter-finals.

With the game being played in Wembley, it means that the FA will owe the FAI a return game at the Aviva.
Stuttgart88
11/09/2012, 2:08 PM
May 2012? Yes! A chance to go back in time and prepare for the Euros all over again. Isn't that what Trap asked for? The man's ability to pull strings with those that count is a huge asset to us.

At least Duff and Given will be still available.
SwanVsDalton
11/09/2012, 2:14 PM
Trapattoni: "Clark, Hoolahan, Reid - we follow them...THROUGH TIME!!" *Wiggles hands in a mystical fashion*
peadar1987
11/09/2012, 2:22 PM
The possibility of the two meeting in the quarter finals... Seems a bit laughable now!
Noelys Guitar
11/09/2012, 2:38 PM
HG Wells Promotions.
Murfinator
11/09/2012, 3:27 PM
I shudder in horror at the very thought of these two dreadful teams playing each other. 90 minutes of long balls and misplaced passes.
ArdeeBhoy
11/09/2012, 10:00 PM
Not to mention the need for 'tin hats' doing so...
tricky_colour
12/09/2012, 1:23 AM
After today's results I say bring it on, it may not be the disaster I feared.
elroy
12/09/2012, 10:06 AM
Ye lads dont miss a thing, May 2013 obviously. Ah sure all the years roll into one these days. The breakingnews source may not be all that credible after all, doesnt seem to a report of the game anywhere else. Although the indo has the below today. Also I think the breakingnews logic that if we play there, then they have to play here is flawed. Otherwise we'd have about 20 away friendlies to play.

From the indo:

THE timing of England's planned Brazilian tour will determine if the FAI secure a money-spinning friendly at Wembley next summer.

Negotiations have been ongoing with the FA for some time, and the original plan was a visit from England to Dublin to make up for the controversy of their last trip in 1995, which was abandoned due to crowd trouble.

However, the FAI have struggled to find a date, with plans for the game before Euro 2012 scuppered by UEFA's insistence that competing teams could not face each other in friendly action beforehand.

And 2013 discussions have been complicated because the FA are celebrating their 150th anniversary and are keen to play a number of games at home. They are scheduled to play Scotland in August.

Therefore, talks with the FAI revolve around a Wembley date next May or June, and a return clash in Dublin sometime in 2014. The window is relatively tight due to the venue's hosting of the Champions League final on May 25.

Ireland face a World Cup qualifier with Faroe Islands on June 7.

England want to embark on a fact-finding mission in Brazil ahead of the World Cup and have pencilled in games with the locals and Uruguay ahead of the start of the Confederations Cup on June 15.

The FA need to clarify the dates of that adventure before agreeing any Irish fixture. The weekend of June 2 is the most logical solution.

- Daniel McDonnell
tetsujin1979
12/09/2012, 11:08 AM
game confirmed for 29th May 2013: http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/england-brazil-ireland-fixtures.aspx
ArdeeBhoy
12/09/2012, 11:29 AM
Glad it's midweek.
EastTerracer
12/09/2012, 12:35 PM
Glad it's midweek.

I would have preferred the following weekend - looking at nearly two weeks holidays now to get that game in London and the Faroes game in Dublin on the 7th. The FAI can fit another friendly in on the Saturday or Sunday now as well.
IsMiseSean
12/09/2012, 1:32 PM
One question. When I bought my season ticket this year it was for 3 WCQ, 3 Friendlies & FAI cup final.
Since we don't have a any friendlies planned at home will the season ticket count towards this game?
Junior
12/09/2012, 1:42 PM
Cant see it to be honest. It was three Friendlies tbc

Friendly* on November 2012
Friendly* on February or May 2013 .
.Friendly* on May or June 2013
boovidge
12/09/2012, 1:49 PM
There's no way the FAI aren't going to cash in on this one. You might get priority for being a season ticket holder though.
IsMiseSean
12/09/2012, 1:52 PM
You might get priority for being a season ticket holder though.

Probably the best I can hope for.
Serb
12/09/2012, 2:31 PM
This should be an interesting game. By the time it rolls around, we won't have played England in 18 years (and we won't have completed a game against them in 21 years). England also haven't beaten us in the five meetings, not that that's really relevant considering time that has passed since our last meeting.

It's kind of an amazing that we've avoided England for so long really, considering we've never been seeded in the same tier of a draw as them, and managed to avoid them in 10 qualifying groups. In fact, I think they may be the only team we haven't played recently out of the 15 UEFA teams ahead of us in the World Ranking (bar maybe Greece, I don't recall playing them recently).
IsMiseSean
12/09/2012, 3:08 PM
We played Greece in a friendly after Mick left. Don Givens took charge of a really boring 0-0 if I recall correctly...
KK77
12/09/2012, 3:26 PM
Probably the best I can hope for.

If you are a season ticket holder you will be guaranteed a ticket.
KK77
12/09/2012, 3:27 PM
I wonder how many tickets we will get for the Wembley game? I am a season ticket holder so expect the FAI to sort me seen as there's so few of us in Landsdowne at the games! LOL

There will be some amount of bandwagoners looking to go to Wembley!
Diarmo
12/09/2012, 3:30 PM
We played Greece in a friendly after Mick left. Don Givens took charge of a really boring 0-0 if I recall correctly...

Am I mad or do I remember Richie Dunne playing left back that match? With Glen Crowe coming on?
Diarmo
12/09/2012, 3:32 PM
Am I mad or do I remember Richie Dunne playing left back that match? With Glen Crowe coming on?

Nope. I'm completely mental. O'Shea at LB and Crowe started.
tetsujin1979
12/09/2012, 3:41 PM
Nope. I'm completely mental. O'Shea at LB and Crowe started.
Dunne was definitely left full, he was MOTM too. Doherty started up front with Crowe. Richie Partridge was on the bench.
IsMiseSean
12/09/2012, 3:51 PM
Dunne was definitely left full, he was MOTM too. Doherty started up front with Crowe. Richie Partridge was on the bench.

Doherty & Crowe upfront?? Lethal....
Stuttgart88
12/09/2012, 4:26 PM
Yep, Dunne left back. 100%.
pineapple stu
12/09/2012, 5:11 PM
Only memory of that match is Alan Mahon sending a corner straight into the side netting. God, that was a terrible game.
EastTerracer
12/09/2012, 5:58 PM
According to the FAI (http://www.fai.ie/international/senior-men/102740.html)they have also provisionally scheduled a return fixture with England in November 2014 (18th/19th is the friendly date on the FIFA calendar). Presumably this will be cancelled if we draw them in the Euro 2016 qualifiers... jaysus, that is a long way off.

I presume we get a one-goal start in Wembley to take account of David Kelly's goal in 1995.
Supreme feet
12/09/2012, 6:49 PM
Only memory of that match is Alan Mahon sending a corner straight into the side netting. God, that was a terrible game.

That was in 2000, 1-0 defeat at Lansdowne. debuts for Barry Quinn, Doherty, Dunne and Alan Mahon. Terrible stuff. The 0-0 under Givens was two years later, another awful game. Doesn't auger well for November.
BonnieShels
12/09/2012, 10:54 PM
That Greek 0-0 haunts me. Though I was very proud that Glen Crowe played.

I remember watching it in Chasers in Ballyfermot. Jaysus, was probably drinking Bulmers too. Eugh.
paul_oshea
13/09/2012, 11:13 AM
Ya that one with crowe was away from home, everything about it was drab. Completely meaningless.

Don't get the two confused.
DeLorean
13/09/2012, 12:03 PM
I wonder how many tickets we will get for the Wembley game? I am a season ticket holder so expect the FAI to sort me seen as there's so few of us in Landsdowne at the games! LOL

There will be some amount of bandwagoners looking to go to Wembley!

The more the merrier. Can't see there being any problem with tickets, not nearly as big a game for them as it is for us.
KK77
14/09/2012, 9:00 AM
The more the merrier. Can't see there being any problem with tickets, not nearly as big a game for them as it is for us.

I hope you are right about the tickets.
fionnsci
14/09/2012, 9:50 AM
That was in 2000, 1-0 defeat at Lansdowne. debuts for Barry Quinn, Doherty, Dunne and Alan Mahon. Terrible stuff. The 0-0 under Givens was two years later, another awful game. Doesn't auger well for November.

That was my first Ireland game. I was only a kid, half expected there to be live commentary in the stadium. Also remembered being surprised at how often people applauded. Anyway sure, don't mind me...
ArdeeBhoy
14/09/2012, 10:36 AM
I wonder how many tickets we will get for the Wembley game? I am a season ticket holder so expect the FAI to sort me seen as there's so few of us in Landsdowne at the games! LOL

There will be some amount of bandwagoners looking to go to Wembley!
I hope we only have 5k tickets.

Why would we want to give them any more money than necessary and we should be mindful that all our fans will be a target to their hooligans who will see us all as 'fair game'...
Charlie Darwin
14/09/2012, 2:09 PM
Our prayers have been answered. Friendly confirmed against Greece on November 14 with Poland to follow on February 6, both in d'Aviva.
paul_oshea
14/09/2012, 2:46 PM
A fight of Debt.
tetsujin1979
14/09/2012, 3:07 PM
A fight of Debt.
fight to the debt, surely?
Deckydee
02/01/2013, 4:15 PM
Gents, so are we ready? This has to be the match of the year surely?

Havent read much about it since it was announced to be honest.
DannyInvincible
02/01/2013, 9:19 PM
Gents, so are we ready? This has to be the match of the year surely?

I'm looking forward to the prospect of facing England in May, but there are seven World Cup qualifiers this year that will decide whether or not we'll be off to Brazil in 2014; each of those games is much more important than any friendly against England.
Grafter
03/01/2013, 12:10 AM
I'm looking forward to the prospect of facing England in May, but there are seven World Cup qualifiers this year that will decide whether or not we'll be off to Brazil in 2014; each of those games is much more important than any friendly against England.
Exactly, it's only a meaningless friendly that should be treated the same way as an end of season friendly in Oslo.

No doubt come May the fair-weather GAA heads around the country and in RTE will make it into something it's not :rolleyes:
Getting charged up about playing England is like something you'd hear up North.... as though England were the Princes of world football or something and we're honoured to have them playing us...
C'mon, lets grow up and set our outlook higher...
Charlie Darwin
03/01/2013, 12:13 AM
It'll be our cup final so it will.
NeverFeltBetter
03/01/2013, 12:15 AM
England will be a decent test. There could well be a new management team by that point.
geysir
03/01/2013, 9:16 AM
Exactly, it's only a meaningless friendly that should be treated the same way as an end of season friendly in Oslo.
Perhaps you don't get that football is tribal.
It would be more ideal if a friendly in Oslo would be treated the same as a friendly in Wembley but in the real world we don't have hundreds of thousands of Irish born living in Norway nor a culture of Irish ethnicity in Norway.
The players will be up for it and the Irish support in England will be up for it. It's about the best friendly we could play.
There's some similarity with the Poles living in Ireland who will look forward to playing us next month.

Of course one WC qual point is more important but we don't have any games around then.
Deckydee
03/01/2013, 1:32 PM
I'm looking forward to the prospect of facing England in May, but there are seven World Cup qualifiers this year that will decide whether or not we'll be off to Brazil in 2014; each of those games is much more important than any friendly against England.

Point taken, absolutely, but I am talking here in the sense of the entertainment value of the match itself.

Granted the qualifiers are much more important than a match against Engerland but I can honestly say that i have never really 'enjoyed' a qualifer whether it be for the WC or the EC, especially not under Trap. I spend most of the time biting off nails that I have been sparing, getting up and down, walking back and forth swearing at the telly and really just watching in pure anguish. In saying that, i wouldnt miss one for the world and i havent for a long time.

I feel that these matches are different because they can be watched with a certain amount of relaxation (though I am not sure about this one) as opposed to something that can be of great significance

So I am looking forward to it in that sense.
AlaskaFox
05/01/2013, 10:19 AM
England will be a decent test. There could well be a new management team by that point.

Doubt they'll get rid of Hodgson so soon after appointing him.
BonnieShels
05/01/2013, 7:09 PM
Doubt they'll get rid of Hodgson so soon after appointing him.

Aw. I left that one behind. No fair.
DannyInvincible
06/01/2013, 1:45 PM
Aw. I left that one behind. No fair.

I did the same. :(

Have a 'thanks' for the thought. :)