NOT The Household Charge. At all. In any way, shape or forum.

[bennocelt]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0605/minister-targets-illegal-turf-cutters.html

Only in Ireland, eh!!"He said Air Corps aircraft are dispatched on a regular basis to monitor the areas in question"

[Macy]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0605/minister-targets-illegal-turf-cutters.html

Only in Ireland, eh!!"He said Air Corps aircraft are dispatched on a regular basis to monitor the areas in question"
One of us is mental, as yet again I find myself replying to one of your posts of outrage with a "so what?" :)

Makes more sense to do it from the air than the ground - it was on Pat Kenny this morning and they covered 4 or 5 bogs in a morning with one environment official. The planes and crew would have to fly regularly anyway, might as well do something useful than simply training flights. And finally, I don't think this is new - as far as I'm aware Argriculture have used the air corp in the past to monitor set aside land and such like.

[bennocelt]

One of us is mental, as yet again I find myself replying to one of your posts of outrage with a "so what?" :)

Makes more sense to do it from the air than the ground - it was on Pat Kenny this morning and they covered 4 or 5 bogs in a morning with one environment official. The planes and crew would have to fly regularly anyway, might as well do something useful than simply training flights. And finally, I don't think this is new - as far as I'm aware Argriculture have used the air corp in the past to monitor set aside land and such like.

or one of us is a ex ff/fg apologist:D
Something useful - tsk:rolleyes:
Just the thought of using the Irish air corp looking down on some old fella of 60 cutting a bit of turf in the back field - typical irish style story

[Macy]

No, you're right, much better to not police it and rack up €25,000 a day fines.

[bennocelt]

No, you're right, much better to not police it and rack up €25,000 a day fines.

Macy were you never a cool kid,lol;) baa baa

[Macy]

Not if the definition of cool is to oppose everything just for the sake of it, no.

[bennocelt]

Not if the definition of cool is to oppose everything just for the sake of it, no.

or be a mouthpiece, i mean seriously
(irish political history proves me right, whats your excuse)

[Macy]

Mouthpiece? Because i'm not surprised they're policing the law and i don't see anything wrong with utilizing the air corp to do it if it's more efficient?

[bennocelt]

Mouthpiece? Because i'm not surprised they're policing the law and i don't see anything wrong with utilizing the air corp to do it if it's more efficient?

So you agree with hounding people in the countryside that have for hundreds of years have cut their own turf - get the air corp onto them -lol yeah that's efficiency.
You never question your leader Enda? Its your law not mine anyway, good lad

[Macy]

I think they're going to police it now they've run of road to kick that can down (another time bomb left by the zanu FF). And if they do, I'd rather they do it efficiently. I don't think a typical fudge would get past the EU since it was left so long, so better properly monitor it now rather than have most cutters discommoded, a few carry on regardless, and the state still rack up fines which is the worst possible outcome.

Most of my family cut turf in the midlands, so I do have massive sympathy for the families effected, particularly when you compare it to what the state does on their bogs. There should've been some form of compromise of limited cutting, or limited methods - as lets not pretend that modern machine cutting in the last few decades is comparable with the environmental cost of the traditional slean cutting that we would've done for centuries. The all or nothing from both sides is part of the problem in this case, imo. But then you just jumped to conclusions of my opinions of the wider issue, based on one element of the issue that I don't actually agree with you on.

[bennocelt]

Most of my family cut turf in the midlands, so I do have massive sympathy for the families effected, particularly when you compare it to what the state does on their bogs. There should've been some form of compromise of limited cutting, or limited methods - as lets not pretend that modern machine cutting in the last few decades is comparable with the environmental cost of the traditional slean cutting that we would've done for centuries. The all or nothing from both sides is part of the problem in this case, imo. But then you just jumped to conclusions of my opinions of the wider issue, based on one element of the issue that I don't actually agree with you on.

Lets agree on that then