Under-19 Squad

[liamoo11]

Named for qualifiers at end of month against potugal, ukraine and israel. Stand out names are prob murray, carruthers, and forde. Pity george from celtic is injured. No conor smith, graham burke or roberts of arsenal which seems strange but one spot left to be annonced and maybe they are injured.

[ifk101]

Named for qualifiers at end of month against potugal, ukraine and israel. Stand out names are prob murray, carruthers, and forde. Pity george from celtic is injured. No conor smith, graham burke or roberts of arsenal which seems strange but one spot left to be annonced and maybe they are injured.

Smith "too tired" for elite qualifiers in Portugal

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/smith-too-tired-for-elite-qualifiers-in-portugal-3108927.html

[paul_oshea]

Where is this alan smith lad from?

i'm not trying to open up a can of worms but just wondering as wouldn't have thought too many irish youngsters at rangers.

[tetsujin1979]

he's from Cork, but Rangers signed him from Crumlin

[drummerboy]

I know of another goalkeeper from Dublin who has been over to Rangers on trial in the last year. However I think he is going to an English club. Was treated very well over there though. Seemingly Ally McCoist is a very decent man.

[tetsujin1979]

full squad, from http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/smith-too-tired-for-elite-qualifiers-in-portugal-3108927.html


IRELAND U-19 SQUAD
S McDermott (Arsenal)
N Burdon (Stade Rennais)
M Barker (Bohemians)
C Morrissey (Trieste, Italy)
N Byrne (Rochdale)
T Hoban (Watford)
S Kavanagh (Fulham)
B Garmston (West Brom)
S Carruthers (Aston Villa)
J O'Sullivan (Blackburn Rvs)
S Murray (Watford)
F Sutherland (QPR)
D Williams (Aston Villa)
M Drennan (Aston Villa)
A Forde (Wolves)
A O'Brien (Millwall)
G Smith (Southend)

One more player to be added.

FIXTURES --
May 26: v Portugal (Olhao, Faro).
May 28: v Ukraine (Parchal).
May 31: v Israel (Ferreira).

any of these games televised?

[AlaskaFox]

Niall Burdon sticks out a bit in the Stade Rennes youth photo:
http://www.staderennais.com/eq2/45.jpg

[DannyInvincible]

Burdon was born in France and qualifies to play for us through his Dublin-born father.

[Dodge]

Burdon was born in France and qualifies to play for us through his Dublin-born father.

He's been in other underge squads. Going back to u15s I think

The non Irish/British clubs always stand out

Big Celtic fan;

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3882479/Rennes-kid-is-Celts-daft.html

[liamoo11]

All a bit low key for these qualifiers obviously with the senior send off this weekend. Drennan out injured unfortunately i think he would have been up top on his own shame good finisher. lyons from ucd in who looks handy strange no burke or roberts seein very few strikers involved. Must be best midfield we have put out at this level since the heady days of mcphail(god he was amazing underage), quinn and partridge(he was crazy amazing underage)

[liamoo11]

forde just missed a peno after 10 mins against portugal ukraine won other game pity

[Closed Account]

Typical, missed penalty in first half.
87 Mins, Barker OG
Portugal 1-0.

[IsMiseSean]

Anyone know what the line-up was for the game?

[liamoo11]

Anyone know what the line-up was for the game?
http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2012/matches/round=2000214/match=2009147/index.html

Wonder how that morrisey lad is getting on in italy?

[liamoo11]

http://www.fai.ie/international/under-19/102552-u19s-suffer-late-twist-against-portugal.html

Missed the peno had it retaken and missed again!!Sounds like very good performance

[nigel-harps1954]

I see Cafu still passes for an 18 year old Portuguese player.

[Charlie Darwin]

Just kicked off against Ukraine. We probably need a decent win to have any chance of grabbing the one qualifying spot. By all accounts we battered the Portuguese and were beaten by a sucker punch own goal on the counter in the final minutes.

http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2012/matches/live/day=27/session=1/match=2009162/matchcenterlight/index.html

[AlaskaFox]

2-0 down after an hour. :(

[Charlie Darwin]

3-0 now. Carruthers sent off for a second yellow, seemingly for mouthing off after a penalty was given.

[liamoo11]

http://www.fai.ie/international/under-19/102564-israel-level-late-to-deny-u19s.html

Unlucky again not to win it seems. Hopefully a few of this batch will progress in the game. I wonder if doolin will be up for Koevermans job if he heads to india

[Closed Account]

U19 squad announced.

Big suprise that 16 year old, Castlebar Celtic Player and U17 captain Noe Baba has been called up. Best of luck to him.

Republic of Ireland Under-19 team manager Paul Doolin has announced his squad for the forthcoming Uefa U19 Championships qualifying tournament.

Ireland will travel to Luxembourg where they will meet the hosts, FYR Macedonia and Germany in Group Five.

FIXTURES: Thursday October 11 Republic of Ireland v Luxembourg, Hesperange - 18.00 BST; Saturday October 13 FYR Macedonia v Republic of Ireland, Hesperange - 16.00 BST; Tuesday October 16 Republic of Ireland v Germany, Grevenmacher - 18.00 BST.

The top two nations qualify for the Elite Qualifying Round with the finals tournament in Lithuania next summer.

Squad in full:
1. Ian Lawlor Manchester City
2. Danny Rogers Aberdeen
3. Brian Lenihan Cork City
4. Thomas Hoban Watford (C)
5. Pierce Sweeney Reading
6. Ryan O'Reilly Stoke City
7. Shane Griffin Reading
8. Bradley Garmston West Bromwich Albion
9. Ryan Coombes St. Patrick's Athletic
10. Luke Gallagher Burnley
11. Kenneth McEvoy Tottenham Hotspur
12. Kieran Sadlier West Ham Utd
13. Michael Drennan Aston Villa
14. Conor Wilkinson Millwall
15. Jack Grealish Aston Villa
16. Noe Baba Castlebar Celtic
17. Conor Pepper Inverness CT
18. Sam Byrne Manchester Utd

[nigel-harps1954]

I'd still like to see a few more homebased players in the squad. Does Doolin actually watch any of the u-19 league here I wonder?

[liamoo11]

Great to see grealish in there. Surprised no roberts who scored at weekend maybe inverness wont let him go. Baba is with the 17s this week seems a massive jump for a lad who is not in full time football if he stil at castlebar

[Charlie Darwin]

I'd still like to see a few more homebased players in the squad. Does Doolin actually watch any of the u-19 league here I wonder?
I'd imagine any player of a high enough standard would need to be in or around the first team in the League of Ireland.

[nigel-harps1954]

I'd imagine any player of a high enough standard would need to be in or around the first team in the League of Ireland.

Why though? What makes reserve and under 19 club football over there technically better than here?


But since you asked, off the top of my head.

Waterford United - Seani Maguire
Derry City - Ryan Curran
Finn Harps - Cathal McDaid, Jordan Duffy
St Pats - Chris Forrester (I think he's underage?)
Limerick - Cian Collins

[youngirish]

Why though? What makes reserve and under 19 club football over there technically better than here?



Let's put it like this most of the decent reserve teams in the Premier League would walk the League of Ireland.

[nigel-harps1954]

Let's put it like this most of the decent reserve teams in the Premier League would walk the League of Ireland.

Based on what evidence?

[youngirish]

Based on what evidence?

The evidence of science, reason and logic and not of magic, irrationality and otherworldiness.

[nigel-harps1954]

The evidence of science, reason and logic and not of magic, irrationality and otherworldiness.

http://thatschurch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tumblr_maq77ecMHG1qejf6u.gif

[Colbert Report]

Based on what evidence?

Are you seriously asking that? Just look at how we stack up every year in the Europa League and Champions League qualifying matches. I think all the Irish teams were out in July this time.

[Dodge]

Are you seriously asking that? Just look at how we stack up every year in the Europa League and Champions League qualifying matches. I think all the Irish teams were out in July this time.

And how did the British reserve teams do?

Pointless argument.

Forrester is overage. Maguire from Waterford was in the last squad. Doolin clearly thinks he has better

Apart from Baba with Castlebar (who's outrageously good by all accounts), there's Coombes (Pats) and Lenihan (Cork) from the u19 league representing home. Pepper (now with Inverness, formerly pats u19s) and Sweeney (Reading/Bray) also show the u19 league here is starting to produce players.

Both of those lads unvolved in u18 squads last year when home based too. There's no agenda. Doolin picks his best squad. 3 of the 18 based in Ireland this time. Players like Maguire and Byrne off Bohs have been in recent squads.

Arguing over whether a 19 year old with Man Utd or a 19 year old with Cork is better based on the club they're with is pointless. Plenty of awful footballers have come through the Premier League academies. Plenty of good footballers have come through the LOI. They'll all find their level eventually

[tetsujin1979]

2-1 to Ireland at half time, all goals coming from penalties!
Jack Byrne with both for Ireland, late response from Macedonia

[Closed Account]

2-1 to Ireland at half time, all goals coming from penalties!
Jack Byrne with both for Ireland, late response from Macedonia
Meant for the U17 I think tets, 40min a side, FYROM scored in second half. 14 mins left

[tetsujin1979]

Meant for the U17 I think tets, 40min a side, FYROM scored in second half. 14 mins left
sorry. you're right, mods please move

[Charlie Darwin]

Why though? What makes reserve and under 19 club football over there technically better than here?


But since you asked, off the top of my head.

Waterford United - Seani Maguire
Derry City - Ryan Curran
Finn Harps - Cathal McDaid, Jordan Duffy
St Pats - Chris Forrester (I think he's underage?)
Limerick - Cian Collins
I wouldn't say it's technically better, but I think in terms of physical development the players in England are better able to mix it at this level, even if they're not as good technically. And I think if an Irish-based player is good enough to be playing international football he's generally going to be at least on the fringes of the first team, e.g. Sweeney, Lenihan.


Let's put it like this most of the decent reserve teams in the Premier League would walk the League of Ireland.
The dozens of Irish youngsters who return from the English academies each summer and struggle to mix it in the Leinster Senior League beg to differ. League of Ireland teams routinely beat Premier League reserve teams. It's not so long since Bohs' reserve side "slayed" a near full-strength Aston Villa side.

[swinfordfc]

Noe Baba is captain of the under 17 who now have qualified to the next round of the under 17's stage (2 wins and a draw) is def strong enough to play at under 19 level and i wish him good luck this coming week.

[liamoo11]

2 changes to squad steven smith leicester city defender ex arsenal and kealon dillon hull city centre mid in. Mcevoy will be loss out wide

[swinfordfc]

When is they first game?

[Dodge]

http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2013/standings/round=2000318/group=2001747/index.html

Thurs v Luxembourg
Saturday v Macedonia
Tuesday v Germany

[liamoo11]

miele called up from newcastle p://www.fai.ie/international/under-19/102823-under-19-squad-update. (http://www.fai.ie/international/under-19/102823-under-19-squad-update.html) interestin player attackin mid has not really been involved in irish set up for a good bit but seems to be goin well at newcastle

[liamoo11]

Game tonight team here. Somehow grealish not playing even though he has had super start to season at villa.Noe baba starting which seems a huge achievement for 16 yo well done sir. http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2013/matches/round=2000318/match=2009270/index.html

[tetsujin1979]

strange alright, but might not be needed against Luxembourg? (cue 2-0 headstart)

[liamoo11]

mikey drennan seems to b a goal machine

[Closed Account]

Didn't realied it kicked off at 6pm.

Leading 4-1 now. To be expected
Michael Drennan x 2
Thomas Hoban
Sam Byrne

Germany leading 1-0 in the other game v Macedonia

[liamoo11]

Hattrick for young drennan. Hope grealish plays next one which will be the key game

[Closed Account]

5-2 now
Drennan hat trick.

[liamoo11]

Good win well done lads. Cant see a rationale for grealish not getting a game especially seein that Miele came on who is a similarly attacking midfileder and only joined squad as injury replacement. Doolin has a woeful record of falling out with players brady, duffy mceleney mcginty hopefully nothing similar here

[swinfordfc]

Germany top after 5-0 win though.

Well done Noe Baba (16 years of age although think he is 17 now)

[Charlie Darwin]

Good win well done lads. Cant see a rationale for grealish not getting a game especially seein that Miele came on who is a similarly attacking midfileder and only joined squad as injury replacement. Doolin has a woeful record of falling out with players brady, duffy mceleney mcginty hopefully nothing similar here
The two-day turnover until the Macedonia game, and then Germany three days later means he'll have to use the whole squad. That would be a tough schedule for most senior pros, so I can see why he'd be keeping a few faces fresh for the tougher games.

[swinfordfc]

well done - got through only 1-0 but who cares :)