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Peadar
11/08/2004, 3:08 PM
Perhaps hiring a camp little scamp would be the end of their worries?
...and open up the possibility of a whole load of new business leads by the sound of it.
Yes, I am a capitalist!
:eek: I thought you objected to that scheme?
Just got a mortgage in the past year and wouldn't even go in to AIB myself because they have been so rude in the past. B of I couldn't have been more helpful. Thought that was just a local thing though - didn't realise others have felt the same...
SSIA - well I'd rather they hadn't cut the top rate of tax, and widened the bands instead, but I ain't going to turn down free money!!!!
AIB were willing to give us the mortgage over the phone, First Active were actually the worst.
Peadar
11/08/2004, 4:01 PM
First Active were actually the worst.
NIB have a very bad reputation for mortgages.
Permanent TSB have been spoken favourably in that respect.
AIB don't need to care about the ordinary Joe, that's their problem.
Did a bit of work for them there and got so sick of their "holier than thou" attitude that I decided to give them a taste of their own medicine and applied "policy" to everything they asked me to do.
Everything had to be reviewed and approved before I did a stroke.
They found it very frustrating that straight forward tasks seemed unnecessarily complicated.
Imagine having to endure such an inconvenience! :D
Of the Banks i think AIB are the most competitive for mortgages but better off with member owned Building Society like EBS.
I'll probably think of moving from AIB to PermanentTSB or Ulster as AIB charges while small are still annoying...
Rudest person come across in last year was Central Bank biddy when changing some punts to euro. :eek:
the 12 th man
11/08/2004, 4:16 PM
how about that tosser steward at the x .
did you get him sorted ?.
tiktok
11/08/2004, 5:57 PM
Currently going through the mortgage process with BofI and they've been excellent, although they have a relationship with my work which I'm benefitting from.
It would have been Permanent TSB otherwise
born 2b a rebel
11/08/2004, 10:43 PM
how about that tosser steward at the x .
did you get him sorted ?.
Yep :)
But now (Well, going by the last home game anyway) we have a new Men In Black style security team...very cool :cool: :cool:
My God. This thread is a few days old, 60+ posts and no-one has mentioned the most deplorable faeces of any profession - H fúcking R. These have to be the most horrid excuse for giving anyone a job, with their superior attitude, using stupid buzz phrases, and generally just getting on everyones tits.
Team Leaders. Generally these are over qualified McDonalds staff, who think they have 'people skills', and are 'on the road to success'. Thats why they wil be working in a call centre for next ti minimum wage for the rest of their pitiful lives.
McDonalds staff (esp those who have 3 starts or more). Does one have to thick stupid, ugly and a moron to work in a McDonolds?
Accounts people. General lick arses who are on a constant power trip.
parnell ranger
12/08/2004, 7:51 AM
AIB bank clerks definitely.
I swear to God, there must be a directive or something so that people will be so frustrated with them that we'll all end up using internet banking.
hear hear
id add civil servants(income tax).
Peadar
12/08/2004, 8:45 AM
they have a relationship with my work which I'm benefitting from.
We have that too, is it as good as they promise?
Rang up for a chat and had a bundle of information in the post the next morning from a very charming woman. When you're with AIB long enough, talking to someone in a bank who's charming can seem a little strange at first.
My God. This thread is a few days old, 60+ posts and no-one has mentioned the most deplorable faeces of any profession - H fúcking R.
I think if your HR Department is essentially recruitment then you have a problem. Have to say that I find HR in my company to be brilliant. They pull out all the stops to get things sorted.
When I worked for Apple many moons ago I thought they were fantastic too.
green goblin
12/08/2004, 9:07 AM
[QUOTE=Gary]My God. This thread is a few days old, 60+ posts and no-one has mentioned the most deplorable faeces of any profession - H fúcking R. These have to be the most horrid excuse for giving anyone a job, with their superior attitude, using stupid buzz phrases, and generally just getting on everyones tits.
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Thank you Gary, for getting us off the subject of mortgages and back on track to rude people and their jobs.
It might be a bit obvious, but the Police, anyone? I mean by that the German Lady's Constables of course.
Peadar
12/08/2004, 9:19 AM
It might be a bit obvious, but the Police, anyone? I mean by that the German Lady's Constables of course.
I'm back in England again after having spent over 2 years here before and I have to say the Police have always been excellent.
Be it the airport Police, London Metropolitan Police, Thames Valley Police, Lancashire Police, Greater Manchester Police, West Midlands Police or whoever, I never had a problem. Sometimes I may only have been asking for directions but can't say that I ever felt intimidated or that they were rude.
That says a lot when you consider how many football games I've been to and the massive job they have to do there.
tiktok
12/08/2004, 9:33 AM
We have that too, is it as good as they promise?
Hasn't started coming through yet as the sale hasn't gone through but will be saving €110 p.m. on the mortgage repayments for the first two years, they're paying €635 towards legal fees ( ;) , my work pays the rest as part of Relocation to dublin), home insurance and life insurance paid for the first year. Looks like it could be worth about €3500.
anyway, back on topic,
HR people, definitely :mad:
green goblin
12/08/2004, 9:46 AM
I'm back in England again after having spent over 2 years here before and I have to say the Police have always been excellent.
Be it the airport Police, London Metropolitan Police, Thames Valley Police, Lancashire Police, Greater Manchester Police, West Midlands Police or whoever, I never had a problem. Sometimes I may only have been asking for directions but can't say that I ever felt intimidated or that they were rude.
That says a lot when you consider how many football games I've been to and the massive job they have to do there.
Actually, Peader... me too!
I'll get me coat
Mind you, when 800 Tims turned up to see the Scottish Giants play good natured testimonial against plucky li'l Wycombe Wanderers in 2001, the TVP put out more officers than are seen at a full Man Yoo game, eating into what meagre money was being raised for the retiring footballer. But, yes, they were fairly polite I suppose. And the police steering Ireland fans towards Charlton last summer couldn't have been more laid back, I thought.
Peadar
17/08/2004, 1:02 PM
I was thinking about this last week and it struck me that there is one profession in particular which each of us should have said. I can't believe it's not been said earlier.
We've all lost the rag with them at some stage and they're held in contempt by millions the world over.
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Football Referee's (match officials)
You don't know your fathers name :D
tiktok
17/08/2004, 1:13 PM
...one profession....Football Referee's (match officials)... :D
Seriously Peadar, when did you last see one that you'd call professional
Keep it on Topic ;) :D :D
green goblin
17/08/2004, 2:29 PM
Seriously Peadar, when did you last see one that you'd call professional
Keep it on Topic ;) :D :D
Siegfried Kirschen June 12 1988. :)
I'm back in England again after having spent over 2 years here before and I have to say the Police have always been excellent.
Be it the airport Police, London Metropolitan Police, Thames Valley Police, Lancashire Police, Greater Manchester Police, West Midlands Police or whoever, I never had a problem. Sometimes I may only have been asking for directions but can't say that I ever felt intimidated or that they were rude.
That says a lot when you consider how many football games I've been to and the massive job they have to do there.
Was'nt alway's that way Peader, but i'll admit thing's have got a lot better. Are you coming up to the big smoke tomorrow night for the game v Bulgaria.
Peadar
18/08/2004, 9:30 AM
Are you coming up to the big smoke tomorrow night for the game v Bulgaria.
I've got colleagues over with me who've planned to have dinner in the hotel and watch the game there so I'll give the bright lights a miss this time.
Flights booked for Dublin on the 4th, Basel on the 8th and Paris next month.
I'm hoping that tonights game is the only one I miss.
Pauro 76
19/08/2004, 4:51 PM
Sure it was an ex workmate............
Nah really it was an ex workmate!! Cant see me paying £50 quid for a haircut now matter how good looking the hairdresser was! :)
Nah really it was an ex workmate!! Cant see me paying £50 quid for a haircut now matter how good looking the hairdresser was! :)
Hmmmm, only cos of the state of your hair do I believe you... :D
Pauro 76
20/08/2004, 8:28 AM
Whats wrong with my hair? Not exactly Mr. Toni and Guy yourself are ya??? ;) :)
Pauro 76
20/08/2004, 4:43 PM
oh and back to rudest people in an occupation. This is general, but how about f*ckers taking interviews. I mean you go from one end of the city to another for an interview, they say they'll let you know whether you have the job or not. And then they dont f*king ring. OK fair enough, i can assume from that i dont have the job, but a phonecall doesnt cost that much, you can tell me i dont have the job, i can take it, but at least f*king ring so i can move on and forget it!
sligoman
10/01/2006, 7:06 PM
This is general, but how about f*ckers taking interviews. I mean you go from one end of the city to another for an interview, they say they'll let you know whether you have the job or not. And then they dont f*king ring. OK fair enough, i can assume from that i dont have the job, but a phonecall doesnt cost that much, you can tell me i dont have the job, i can take it, but at least f*king ring so i can move on and forget it!I agree 100% with you on this one. It's so fecking annoying when they don't even bother to let you know if you got it or not.:mad:.
Peadar
11/01/2006, 8:46 AM
I mean you go from one end of the city to another for an interview, they say they'll let you know whether you have the job or not. And then they dont f*king ring.
I'm not going to try and justify this but I might help you understand where the problem lies.
When doing interviews, you normally get a pile of CV's and a schedule. You normally get the CV's after the candidates have been invited for an interview. Most of them, you will dismiss simply from looking at the CV. Then you have the face to face and try to be open minded in case the person simply can't compose a CV.
When you decide on a candidate, you inform Resourcing or HR and they arrange to actual hiring of the candidate. It is also their job to call the unsuccessful candidates but the new hire takes priority and the task of calling the unsuccessful candidates can get lost in paperwork.
My advice would be to ring them.
Is that really how it's done? Not go through the CV's first and then decide who to interview?
Only has to be a simple letter and mail merge to let people know they weren't successful. 5 minute job if that.
Peadar
11/01/2006, 9:28 AM
Not go through the CV's first and then decide who to interview?
I'm talking about technical roles where the interviews are lined up by non technical resourcing staff. They'll screen CV's for trigger words which relate to the role being offered.
Let's say the job is for a Database Administrator, they'll screen for SQL, Oralce etc. and then offer an interview.
What might actually be on the persons CV might be something like, "There was an SQL box in my last job. I was required to recycle the power on it more than once."
Only has to be a simple letter and mail merge to let people know they weren't successful. 5 minute job if that.
Five minutes if someone actually goes about doing it. A person who hasn't had a successful interview with your company usually gets little further consideration. Unfortunately, it's the way things are.
The majority of CV's are e-mailed now and don't contain a postal address.
I suppose a formal e-mail would suffice as notice.
paul_oshea
11/01/2006, 9:33 AM
i think he means the interviewers, as in the hr filter the initial list of cvs.
is that it pa burke?
I'm talking about technical roles where the interviews are lined up by non technical resourcing staff. They'll screen CV's for trigger words which relate to the role being offered.
Let's say the job is for a Database Administrator, they'll screen for SQL, Oralce etc. and then offer an interview.
What might actually be on the persons CV might be something like, "There was an SQL box in my last job. I was required to recycle the power on it more than once."
Just would've expected them to be screened by the technical section as well, even if after HR, not doubting you were right. Seems a waste of time though interviewing clearly unsuitable candidates, when would be quicker looking at CV's first (less haste more speed and all that).
Peadar
11/01/2006, 9:59 AM
Just would've expected them to be screened by the technical section as well
It does happen like that sometimes but often you wont be available to screen CV's so HR will arrange the interviews for a day when you're available and that's the first chance you have to see the CV's.
I try my best to give clear indications in an interview if the person is unsuitable.
As we are a small company with no HR we basically use recruitment concultants as our HR. All contact with candidates is done via the recruitment agency. If the recruitment agency does not get back to an unsuccessful candidate then I would have way of knowing as assume they communicate the news.
I agree that it is the height of ignorance not to replay to interviewee with an answer.
ThatGuy
11/01/2006, 1:33 PM
5/ ever had words with a clamper in dublin ?
they are the dregs of humanity
In fairness, I think they have to act like that.
AIB bank clerks definitely.
I swear to God, there must be a directive or something so that people will be so frustrated with them that we'll all end up using internet banking.
Recently in the AIB I went in, gave my name and address to a clerk, and they gave me a lot of money from my account. But I could have been anyone! Didn't ask for ID, my bank card, or any information about me. Bizarre.
Peadar
11/01/2006, 2:06 PM
But I could have been anyone!
I can just imagine the AIB internal enquiry.
What do you mean you handed out a wad of cash to ThatGuy! :D
paul_oshea
11/01/2006, 3:06 PM
enquiry.
dont you mean inquiry?
Peadar
11/01/2006, 3:38 PM
dont you mean inquiry?
No, because this is AIB so they don't have inquiries, they simply have a little chat before they all gather round to help lift the carpet, under which the matter will be swept.
Babysis
11/01/2006, 4:01 PM
As we are a small company with no HR we basically use recruitment concultants as our HR. All contact with candidates is done via the recruitment agency. If the recruitment agency does not get back to an unsuccessful candidate then I would have way of knowing as assume they communicate the news.
I agree that it is the height of ignorance not to replay to interviewee with an answer.
Rudest people I dealt with were defo recruitment consultants. I was speaking to 30+ on average a day in my old job. Very rude and alot are very unprofessional.
Pauro 76
12/01/2006, 10:36 AM
Train announcers who speak really really fcuking loudly.
joeSoap
12/01/2006, 10:39 AM
Dublin Bus Drivers, Taxi Drivers and hungover shop assistants for me!!
Rudest people I dealt with were defo recruitment consultants. I was speaking to 30+ on average a day in my old job. Very rude and alot are very unprofessional.
Good example of how unprofessional they are...
We used 2 agencies to recruit an engineer last year so i dealt with directly. One of the agencies has added me basically to their spam list so they send me mails for positions we not recruiting. Because its essentially spam they have now spammed me with job details on job in my field - i think this is just an oversight becuase of nature of spam but it could be considered they trying to poach me for other company which i'm sure my current employer who paid them fees wouldn't be keen on (i hope).
:rolleyes:
Dr.Nightdub
19/01/2006, 9:59 PM
Recruitment consultants can be idiots.
A friend of mine was home from England recently, I was telling her about how I was trying to fill a vacancy on my team. She mentioned it to her cousin who subsequently told a friend of hers.
I know people keep saying Dublin's a small place but it turned out my friend's cousin's friend's CV had already been sent to me by the consultants we were using and I had it on hold just in case none of the first few interviewees were suitable.
In the meantime the consultant had told her the vacancy was filled when it was still very much open!
Pauro 76
20/01/2006, 10:10 AM
Recruitment agencies can be total @rseholes. A place i was temping for, I had a genuine query about a timesheet issue, and they just slammed down the phone on me. Also during quiet temping periods, I ring them up just to see whats in the pipeline (have the pay the rent you know, cant just sit around and wait for them to ring...) and just get a very blunt answer. Dont know why i bother...
CollegeTillIDie
21/01/2006, 10:00 AM
Isn't it astonishing how many give you that line?
I'm not joking, it must be 1 in 10 taxi drivers in Dublin.
Amazing, because any genuine Rovers fan who was there then and still goes will tell you their :D crowds fell in their final season of the Four In A Row.
It seems EL soccer fans in Dublin wouldn't go when a team was losing and stopped going when they were winning cause it was too boring. Well it was the 1980's and they probably all had to emigrate cause they lost their job or something!:rolleyes:
Drumcondra Red
22/01/2006, 7:10 PM
I used to work in AIB, I don't really understand whats wrong??? Its the individual, and not nessecarily the bank itself???
Conor H
22/01/2006, 7:39 PM
The Galway Clampers are not liked in the city to say the very least!They once refused to open a clamp when a person had to be taken to hospital urgently....only for a Guard paid the fine himself they wouldn't have opened it!:eek:
Recruitment consultants..the power they have to get you a job if you need one must go to their head as the only explanation..
And people who work at Dell in Bray and Limerick and abroad. My job was to do the collect and return on them and they are utter utter @rseholes and when I tried to speak to the customer, they would think I was one of them and get their gruff..:mad: :mad:
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