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[thomas72]

huge game this one with two home games coming up time to get a hold of top spot if we keep playing the way we are we should have enough to beat waterford. need to keep an eye on that young lad sean mcgurie scored two the other night aswell and one against us very quick (something or centre halfs are lacking) and skillful.

[sadloserkid]

I was at the Waterford game the other night. McGuire up front does look a serious threat, his first goal was excellent. They played him off another young lad, this one a big, awkward fella called Daragh Walshe I think who scored a brilliant effort too. Against that their wingers looked ordinary enough and our Gamble/Bradley axis in the middle should be well able to handle Dempsey/Peter White. Waterford will be on the up after their game Friday but if we play like we have in the last few games class should out.

[Jofspring]

If we keep the head and keep playing like we have I think we will win. Once we don't panic and be patient the results will come.

3-2 limerick

[NeverFeltBetter]

Heading to this one Friday night. My expectations were pretty low heading out the gate after the Longford game, but I really think, on the basis of the last two games, Limerick should pick up all three points here. Hoping for good weather, good football and a lack of big crowd syndrome!

[ped_ped]

Keep up the way they've been going and it should be three points, with any luck. Scully seems to have done what needed doing, now hopefully he doesn't roll back like he has before and drop Bradley or someone for no good reason :/

In fairness to him he does seem to have copped on, though. Longford game may not have been so bad after all, if it made him realise.

[cufc champions]

Maguire is playing for the Ireland schools team in Wales on Thursday and will only be back in Ireland early Friday remains to be seen if POB plays him or not, I don't see how he can afford to leave him out.

[Jofspring]

Maguire is playing for the Ireland schools team in Wales on Thursday and will only be back in Ireland early Friday remains to be seen if POB plays him or not, I don't see how he can afford to leave him out.

The current form he is showing means Waterford can't afford to but if he plays a full game on Thursday he shouldn't be allowed play Friday as it will burn the young fella out. Think he was involved in a game a few weeks ago for Ireland and was a sub the next day for Waterford. When Jason Hughes was captain of the Under 18's Schoolboys we didn't have him available for a month or two.

[Lim till i die]

Referee for this one - Mr. James McKell

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[Minesapint]

3nil limerick

[NeverFeltBetter]

Looking up match previews, Waterford squad has a little of injured it seems, could really affect them. Also, Dominic Foley out for at least another three weeks, frustrating to see. Limerick really beginning to click in the last few games, think he'd be doing well if he was fit to play. Back in time for Longford away I hope.

[LK37oldskool]

another sh*$e performance.The only way Limerick will get promoted is if we play all oyr games away from home for the whole season.Only for i have a season ticket i would'nt bother going up again.Woeful rubbish. We played better football under Mcgee and Kerley than this joke of a manager. Me thinks its time to be more vocal about sacking Scully.

[thomas72]

another clueless and guttless performance the min they scored i said we are beaten that team has no bottle or heart all they want is there big pay cheque im sick to death of this cowboy in charge of limerick a bluffer is all he is. only for iv a season ticket i wouldnt go back until this bluffer is sacked back to his long ball tactics again NOT ONE SINGLE SHOT ON TARGET IN THE WHOLE GAME AT HOME its not good enough. iv no sympathy for pat o sullivan not acting and keeping scully in charge because we are going nowhere fast under this bluffer if he wants to waste his money fine but you wont be wasting mine.

[Treaty Gooner]

Brutal stuff, no answer from Limerick to Waterford's midfield 2 and mobile front 2. Also about the 'Ultras', disgusting abuse of a clearly distressed Kiely, if it was one of ours down injured and abused like that in any ground in the country we'd never hear the end of it on here. Knackers to a man.

[bluewhitearmy]

Brutal stuff, no answer from Limerick to Waterford's midfield 2 and mobile front 2. Also about the 'Ultras', disgusting abuse of a clearly distressed Kiely, if it was one of ours down injured and abused like that in any ground in the country we'd never hear the end of it on here. Knackers to a man.

Things like "Your Willy is Broken" and "Give Willy a rub he will be better" yes vile vile abuse animals the whole lot even though it was only like 5 people saying anything.

[Jofspring]

Ah decking brutal again. Back to square one with that performance. Waterford weren't exactly outstanding tonight. Another home game another loss. Nothing ever changes. q

[bluewhitearmy]

3 losses already this season is not good enough to go from last weeks performance to that tonight is not good enough.
We didn't threaten them at all.....why in the name of god did he bring on a centre back when we were 1 down needing to score.

[Treaty Gooner]

Did any of the rest of the Hardy Boys try to shut the animals up? Any abuse of a promising young player in obvious pain is boll*x. Moron.

[bluewhitearmy]

Did any of the rest of the Hardy Boys try to shut the animals up? Any abuse of a promising young player in obvious pain is boll*x. Moron.

Whats it to do with any of us to stop anyone why didnt you stop em if you were so worried? How is any of what was said abuse? Half the stand was laughing at what was being said i find it hard to believe they would laugh at someone being abused.
They were making childish comments about his name being Willy stupid yes abusive not a hope. You need to get a life if you think any of what was said was abuse.

[Treaty Gooner]

Get a life? How many posts do you have on an internet football forum...?

[bluewhitearmy]

Get a life? How many posts do you have on an internet football forum...?

So now you are claiming by posting on a football forum ,that i have no life because i post on a football forum.
Ill say no more.

[Treaty Gooner]

That many? You seem wound up, relax pal, it's just the internet.

[NeverFeltBetter]

So, on the actual game...

Really disappointing. Gamble and Bradley were ok for parts, Gaffney made an effort, nearly everyone else was all over the place. Behan just seemed off the pace big time, the whole mentality was wrong. So many wayward passes, with Waterford looking way better on the ball. Blaming the pitch is one thing, but Limerick should be well used to it. Sheahan failed to have an impact when he came on, some of the crosses from the right in the second half were truly dire. And upfront, just appalling. Losing 1-0 at half time, and the only real effort in the second was that really wayward Gaffney shot, when he had the opportunity to advance. When called to dig deep and put in the extra effort to rescue the game, just like with Longford, the Limerick team just did not have it in them.

The play for the goal really showcased some defensive weakness, the ball could have been cleared a few times if Limerick were just a bit quicker, a bit more organised. Waterford weren't really that great - they didn't exactly make a lot of chances and were pegged back for large portions - but they took their chance and never looked like they were too pressed.

Just what is it about the home games? It is so bizarre, seeing Limerick fail to perform in their last two games at Jackman Park, while dominating the opposition at two away games in-between.

I cannot imagine that Scully has many chances left to get it right in a big home game. I'm not going to be chanting for his head from the sideline just yet, but the temptation to make a change before too much of the season is gone by must be getting bigger and bigger for the boardroom. Aside from his inability to get the most out of this Limerick side and win the big games, Scully hardly seems to be a manager of Premier Division quality, which is where Limerick want to be.

If this keeps up, it will soon be time to seriously reappraise the aims and ambitions for this season. Two much easier games coming up (though Mervue got a decent result tonight), Athlone, and then Longford. A lot of work to be done in that time.

Edit: Also, hearing the Waterford player popped his elbow, no long term damage. That's just from Waterford Tweeters though.

[bluewhitearmy]

So, on the actual game...

Really disappointing. Gamble and Bradley were ok for parts, Gaffney made an effort, nearly everyone else was all over the place. Behan just seemed off the pace big time, the whole mentality was wrong. So many wayward passes, with Waterford looking way better on the ball. Blaming the pitch is one thing, but Limerick should be well used to it. Sheahan failed to have an impact when he came on, some of the crosses from the right in the second half were truly dire. And upfront, just appalling. Losing 1-0 at half time, and the only real effort in the second was that really wayward Gaffney shot, when he had the opportunity to advance. When called to dig deep and put in the extra effort to rescue the game, just like with Longford, the Limerick team just did not have it in them.

The play for the goal really showcased some defensive weakness, the ball could have been cleared a few times if Limerick were just a bit quicker, a bit more organised. Waterford weren't really that great - they didn't exactly make a lot of chances and were pegged back for large portions - but they took their chance and never looked like they were too pressed.

Just what is it about the home games? It is so bizarre, seeing Limerick fail to perform in their last two games at Jackman Park, while dominating the opposition at two away games in-between.

I cannot imagine that Scully has many chances left to get it right in a big home game. I'm not going to be chanting for his head from the sideline just yet, but the temptation to make a change before too much of the season is gone by must be getting bigger and bigger for the boardroom. Aside from his inability to get the most out of this Limerick side and win the big games, Scully hardly seems to be a manager of Premier Division quality, which is where Limerick want to be.

If this keeps up, it will soon be time to seriously reappraise the aims and ambitions for this season. Two much easier games coming up (though Mervue got a decent result tonight), Athlone, and then Longford. A lot of work to be done in that time.

Id say that had a lot to do with Derek O'Brien who is a left legged left winger going on the right i just cant see the sense in it.

The only games that could be considered any way big this year are against Waterfrod and Longford our record in these games is played 3 lost 3 .

[NeverFeltBetter]

Yeah, I suppose I should have clarified by saying that it was player positioning, on the right wing, that was totally crazy. What was the thinking? That'd he'd cut outside and put the ball on his left foot? He didn't.

Also, not suprised to see home attendence down after the Longford game, would expect a furthur drop against Mervue. Team's had their chance to impress the big crowds. Isn't happening.

[thomas72]

the chairman needs to take responsibility here and act before the season gets away from us act now and we can save it keep thinking scully is the right man and were finished. can you pic sculy in the premier he cant get wins in so called big games in a 8 team league pic him v shams, sligo, derry, st pats, bohs, etc etc he would get owned

[bluewhitearmy]

Yeah, I suppose I should have clarified by saying that it was player positioning, on the right wing, that was totally crazy. What was the thinking? That'd he'd cut outside and put the ball on his left foot? He didn't.

Also, not suprised to see home attendence down after the Longford game, would expect a furthur drop against Mervue. Team's had their chance to impress the big crowds. Isn't happening.

Heard people say on the way out again tonight that they wouldn't be back while Scully is there thats 2 home games in a row now.


the chairman needs to take responsibility here and act before the season gets away from us act now and we can save it keep thinking scully is the right man and were finished. can you pic sculy in the premier he cant get wins in so called big games in a 8 team league pic him v shams, sligo, derry, st pats, bohs, etc etc he would get owned

Pat O S doesnt make them decisions he has people in charge of that kind of thing and they are really letting him down and wasting his money.....He will have to step in soon before its too late.

[thomas72]

Heard people say on the way out again tonight that they wouldn't be back while Scully is there thats 2 home games in a row now.



Pat O S doesnt make them decisions he has people in charge of that kind of thing and they are really letting him down and wasting his money.....He will have to step in soon before its too late.

ya heard 3 old lads saying a top junior team would put up a better show.
i agree he is wasting his money he is not getting the value for it the players are there but we have nothing on the sideline no tactics no plan B nothing.

i wonder what his excuse is after the game tonight i bet he blames the pitch

[NeverFeltBetter]

That'd be rich after Athlone and Finn Harps away.

[bluewhitearmy]

ya heard 3 old lads saying a top junior team would put up a better show.
i agree he is wasting his money he is not getting the value for it the players are there but we have nothing on the sideline no tactics no plan B nothing.

i wonder what his excuse is after the game tonight i bet he blames the pitch

The pitch,we played well were unlucky all the usual crap id say.

[Bayern Munchies]

Another big game...Another loss and ****e performance..was anybody really expecting any less?

[NeverFeltBetter]

After the last two games, yeah, I was hoping for more. I actually would expect Limerick to win the next two games, but all bets are off after that.

[bluewhitearmy]

After the last two games, yeah, I was hoping for more. I actually would expect Limerick to win the next two games, but all bets are off after that.

They will and then mes it up against Longford same old same old at this stage.

[thomas72]

last 3 games we played excellant football then tonight we resort back to long balls up to behan scully should of know after 20mins that the waterford centre half was owning behan in the air and quickly changed it. not to have one shot on target is not good enough pat o sullivan was in front of me and he was saying were 2nd to everything and we have not done a thing tonight. fix it then

[NeverFeltBetter]

I thought Limerick played more ground football tonight then they did against Longford, it just didn't work at all. Couldn't strong the passes together past midfield.

[4tothefloor]

Id say that had a lot to do with Derek O'Brien who is a left legged left winger going on the right i just cant see the sense in it.
Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield

[bluewhitearmy]

Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield

In fairness to Gaffney he is a striker and was one of the best players in the league playing there for Mervue and he played great stuff on the wing last 2 games.

The bit in bold hits the nail on the head really we have no creativity at all.

[Minesapint]

Whats it to do with any of us to stop anyone why didnt you stop em if you were so worried? How is any of what was said abuse? Half the stand was laughing at what was being said i find it hard to believe they would laugh at someone being abused.
They were making childish comments about his name being Willy stupid yes abusive not a hope. You need to get a life if you think any of what was said was abuse.
Are you serious, those abusive comments were disgusting believe it or not some parents do bring kids to matches, im afraid your the one that needs to get a life

[Minesapint]

Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield
I dont think Derek o brien is good enough to get into the side he lacks some confidence at the moment.

[harpin]

.....why in the name of god did he bring on a centre back when we were 1 down needing to score.

Guthrie was terrible all night that young fella made a show of him.

Fair enough Brosnan messed up for the goal but Scully could have given him another 10-15 after the break to make up for it instead of taking him off straight away...nice confidence booster for the young fella there...did the same to Bandarker after the first Longford goal,dropped Purcell after the 2nd in that match and also cost Barry Ryan his place...Scully is getting very reactionary he's feeling the stress and rightly so cos in my opinion he's not up to it

[blueblood]

What was the point having Behan up front on his own again, anytime he did win a ball there was no Limerick player near him so Waterford cleared the ball with ease, not a single shot on target then throwing Purcell up front really says it all!

[Jofspring]

I thought Gaffney was shocking and wasted more possession in good advanced psitions than any other player and he does this every game. He just langers the ball forward when he has any opportunity and doesn't seem to see what's going on around him. Gamble and Bradley who have been outstanding the last few games just weren't at the races. Peter white and Dempsey had pretty much nothing to do all day barr a few tackles. Behan was taking a great first touch for most the first half but with nothing going on around him this faded away pretty fast. Derek O Brien put in some bad crosses but he at least attacked the Waterford players and you could see them worry when he did. He hasn't had a chance to play a few games in a row due to injury so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt with crosses. Coughlan was non existent and didn't get involved at all as far as I'm concerned. Brosnan had a stinker and Frost dealt with him handy enough. The back four hadn't too much to do besides the goal but wasted a lot of possession.

I'd say people think we are lying when we say limerick put in great performances on the road cause it's like watching two different teams.

[bluewhitearmy]

Guthrie was terrible all night that young fella made a show of him.

Fair enough Brosnan messed up for the goal but Scully could have given him another 10-15 after the break to make up for it instead of taking him off straight away...nice confidence booster for the young fella there...did the same to Bandarker after the first Longford goal,dropped Purcell after the 2nd in that match and also cost Barry Ryan his place...Scully is getting very reactionary he's feeling the stress and rightly so cos in my opinion he's not up to it

Thats fair enough but we needed to score and had 1 sub left surely an attacking player should be coming on.

[fieldofmarkets]

Very true....I was watching the game lastnight thinking exactly where have those great away performances been. I've only seen the homes games so far, and apart from SD Galway we have been cat....and that game shouldn't really count for anything anyway. At least last night though you could see a difference in how we were trying to play as opposed to the Longford game. Mostly we tried to play football, which I didn't think Scully would have tried to change to so I am happy enough about that and Shane Treacy is an excellent left back. Waterford harried and hounded all night...just like Longford did. Sometimes that resulted in us kicking the ball long. What strikes me though is we are 2nd to everything, we have looked the less committed team in each game so far. Completelly lacklustre. The goal would not have been conceeded if the players were at all committed. Waterford really did not do much either but their effort earned them a nice win.

Not sure Scully is getting anywhere close to starting the best 11 from available players yet.

Terrible decision to change centrebacks with your last roll of the dice when loosing.

We had most of the ball, Bradley & Gamble were good I thought. Gaffney does not look to have a footballing brain..final product is mostly awful playing from the wing, but he is a great athlete and might actually be very effective upfront close to Behan...would scare the life out of centrebacks with his physicality and pace anyway (Coughlan was too timid lastnight). Start O'Leary on wing...don't care if he is a centre-midfielder, he is a footballer and we have 2 great attacking fullbacks in Treacy & Kelly to provide width. Oh...and we need someone in the dressing room to light a fire under them all.

[da bishop]

pretty dire stuff overall,waterford played all the football in the first half,centre foward maguire very good..white and dempsey dominated our two bradley and gamble,second half we huffed and puffed miserably.hard to fathom some of the stuff going on..gaffeneys long throws throughout,taking off a centrehalf,replacing him with another one and then shoving that one upfront,starting the game with one up front again,the lack of decent passing and creativity,scully hiding in the dugout again......and more new staff to add the the growing band of..experts...scully has at his disposal.

[kingpin4]

pretty dire stuff overall,waterford played all the football in the first half,centre foward maguire very good..white and dempsey dominated our two bradley and gamble,second half we huffed and puffed miserably.hard to fathom some of the stuff going on..gaffeneys long throws throughout,taking off a centrehalf,replacing him with another one and then shoving that one upfront,starting the game with one up front again,the lack of decent passing and creativity,scully hiding in the dugout again......and more new staff to add the the growing band of..experts...scully has at his disposal.

I noticed that alright, are the sport scientist and the other guy gone? By the way, anyone know what he did? Genuine question, maybe someone from the club can answer?
And any info bout the new guy?

On the game itself, that was an awful showing from the players. Its the same team that everyone have been praising the last few weeks, yet when they don't perform it's Scully's fault? Doesn't make sense to me, I wish people were as vocal about the players, as they are about the manager, because some of them look like big time Charlies without earning the right to do it.
If Scully played the game for them I'd say fair enough, but looking at the other night, Kelly and Behan were the only 'decent' performers. Coughlan, Gamble, Bradley, Brosnan, Guthrie, Gaffney, S.Tracy mught as well not have turned up. Gave nothing, no effort, nothing. Add in the subs, Sheehan and Derek O'Brien, neither looked fit or sharp. At least Derek tried to beat a man, his delivery was awful though. Really poor showing, if I was them, I'd be ringing Pat O'Sullivan and telling him to keep my wages for the week.

[Lim till i die]

I noticed that alright, are the sport scientist and the other guy gone?

Gone from the dugout, not gone.


By the way, anyone know what he did?

Sports psychologist.


And any info bout the new guy?

Mark Dempsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Dempsey_(Irish_footballer))


On the game itself, that was an awful showing from the players. Its the same team that everyone have been praising the last few weeks, yet when they don't perform it's Scully's fault? Doesn't make sense to me, I wish people were as vocal about the players, as they are about the manager, because some of them look like big time Charlies without earning the right to do it.
If Scully played the game for them I'd say fair enough, but looking at the other night, Kelly and Behan were the only 'decent' performers. Coughlan, Gamble, Bradley, Brosnan, Guthrie, Gaffney, S.Tracy mught as well not have turned up. Gave nothing, no effort, nothing. Add in the subs, Sheehan and Derek O'Brien, neither looked fit or sharp. At least Derek tried to beat a man, his delivery was awful though. Really poor showing, if I was them, I'd be ringing Pat O'Sullivan and telling him to keep my wages for the week

You're getting into a chicken and egg debate at that stage tbf.

[Lim till i die]

Pat O S doesnt make them decisions he has people in charge of that kind of thing and they are really letting him down and wasting his money.....He will have to step in soon before its too late.

This has been creeping in with a lot of people recently and I genuinely don't get it.

It's absolute nonsense to suggest that Pat O'Sullivan doesn't have the final say when it comes to all facets of the club.

He didn't make all that money we're wasting by being a fool.

[kingpin4]

Sports psychologist.

I wasnt aware Scully had one on his staff. Surely this is the guy to "light the fire under them" as someone else put it. If the players have some mental block, either the psychologist isnt doing his job, or the players arent listening to him. Something needs to change anyway.

[Shannonsider]

I honestly thought we has turned the corner after the Longford game. Fair enough if we lose to a better side but Waterford are an average First Division side to be fair. Young lad up front Sean Maguire is a fantastic prospect but other than that they are nothing special.

Tactically Limerick were extremely poor. One positive I took after the Longford game was that Scully had realised that playing one up front wasn't working for Limerick. Results in Wexford and Harps show this.

Never in my time watching football have I seen a manager swap two centre backs for each other when a team are one nil down. I know he threw Purcell up front but if taking off a defender why not bring on O' Leary, get some creativity into the side.

We have the players to walk this league but for some reason Scully has us playing like Stoke City. Watching long balls to a big man up front on his own, is not what people are going to watch on a Friday night. I'd watch it myself if it meant we were winning but losing again at home is shocking to be honest.

I was really impressed when I seen Limerick signed Shane Guthire this season, he has been a player I wanted Limerick to sign for many years not but to be honest hes been really disapointing to be honest. We have a real problem at the back.

Scully needs to go back to a simple 4-4-2 formation, let the players we have play football and we will win this league. Until then, expect the same.
My starting 11 against Mervue would be

Dave Ryan

S.Kelly P.Purcell S. Guthrie S.Tracy

R.Gaffney S.Bradley J.Gamble D. O' Brien

Garry Sheahan D. Behan

[bluewhitearmy]

This has been creeping in with a lot of people recently and I genuinely don't get it.

It's absolute nonsense to suggest that Pat O'Sullivan doesn't have the final say when it comes to all facets of the club.

He didn't make all that money we're wasting by being a fool.

I know he obviously has final say but i also know that he takes advice and listens to it from people in the club.