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[blueblood]

[QUOTE=kingpin4;1586551]How people can blame Scully for that is beyond me. I'm not his greatest fan, but it's 90% the players' faults tonight.

Scully obviously dosn't know what he's doing so how the hell are the players supposed to know, no consistency, no confidence, no passion, no hope!

Was scully interview for on radio this morning?

[Targetman]

Probably one of the worst games of football I have ever watched. That performance made the Irish national team look like Barca. Ryan constantly hoofing balls to Behan, when it could have been played out from the back. Then when we got possession and had time and space it was like a competition to see who could kick the ball the longest / highest. Constantly hoofing the ball in the direction of a player, looking to feed of scraps or win the second ball. The tactics are clearly coming from the manager, even if he tries to save face in the dugout. No complaints can be made about the pitch ect as Longford were well able to play ball, with far inferior players. Gillespie was outstanding for them I thought. Obviously a fair percent of the criticism should be directed towards the players as well, some of them seemed to be just going through the motions. With the quality in this team we realistically should be walking this division. Cannot for the life of me see Scully getting sacked though, signed a 2 year deal towards the end of last season which would have to be paid out if we did.

[Minesapint]

As one of the players said himself he says that in the dug out in front of people but before the game and at half time the players are told go direct to Behan...Whats the point telling em one thing before the game the opposite during the game and then back to the first thing at half time. Terrible terrible management and i was backing Scully up until very recently. I talked to 3 players lastnight 2 that played in the game 1 that didnt and none of them are happy with Scully.
Scully should go but he wont, but players should take a share of the blame as well and telling you what was said at half time shows you some players are not committed, last night some players didnt try not all some, the chairman has to take a share of the blame with the board.

[bluewhitearmy]

Scully should go but he wont, but players should take a share of the blame as well and telling you what was said at half time shows you some players are not committed, last night some players didnt try not all some, the chairman has to take a share of the blame with the board.

There is definitely some not committed at all there is also a lot just fed up of Scully i reckon.

[CraftyToePoke]

I think its a long way back for Scully from here to have the fans fully behind him ever again. I think it may be a false dawn and a big game home loss too many, Limerick had to win last night, not convincingly, but with a bit of style to their play. The money has been spent, time and patience allotted to him. No two ways, he must be under pressure now and know it.

Any link to a radio interview with him yet ?

Again, I cant comment on the style as I wasn't there but my father was at the game, his first game this season, after stopping going regularly about half way through last season, and he won't be back for a bit after that he said, not good to watch, just not an enjoyable way to spend a couple of hours.

The support is there(and would grow quickly I believe), the ground soon will be, good squad, infrastructure, chairman, but it doesn't look like Scully is the man for his role at Limerick F.C. I have backed him till now also.

[thomas72]

scully said on the radio that not one player can hold there head up high after that performance said everyone was poor also said he expects a bit more professional from the players that longford wanted it more. that right there says it all for me. if he cant get the team up for a top of the table clash then we are in serious trouble he needs to go.

some players to me dont want to be hear just happy to collect there wage pack at the end of the week

[Minesapint]

scully said on the radio that not one player can hold there head up high after that performance said everyone was poor also said he expects a bit more professional from the players that longford wanted it more. that right there says it all for me. if he cant get the team up for a top of the table clash then we are in serious trouble he needs to go.

some players to me dont want to be hear just happy to collect there wage pack at the end of the week
Who would be a replacement

[blueblood]

Who would be a replacement


Anyone

[Jofspring]

Who would be a replacement

Pete Mahon. He'd get the best out of the team, have them playing football, knows some of the players and is well able to spot good young players and get them playing at a high level. We have a fantastic squad and under19's that he would have to chose from.

[Minesapint]

Pete Mahon. He'd get the best out of the team, have them playing football, knows some of the players and is well able to spot good young players and get them playing at a high level. We have a fantastic squad and under19's that he would have to chose from.
I cant see many of the 19s getting a chance in the league , first team players on big wages wont be dropped, pete mahon would be a great capture but scully wont be sacked nor will he walk.

[harpin]

How people can blame Scully for that is beyond me. I'm not his greatest fan, but it's 90% the players' faults tonight.
If it was a team of young inexperienced lads, then I'd say he's doing something wrong. Joe Gamble, Pat Purcell, Barry Ryan, Denis Behan, Shane Tracy, Paudie Quinn (i know the last 2 are young, but have both been in England so calling them experienced) were awful tonight. Paddy and Barry cost us 2 goals, Scully can't go play the game for them. Another day, Paddy runs it out, finishes 1 all and we all say 'meh, was ok, could have been worse' ...it's his fault for that goal, but people aren't calling for him to be sacked or dropped.
I was behind the dugout too, he told them get it down and kept giving out when it was hoofed, to me that means they're not his tactics or the way he wants them to play. That's the players not listening to tactics.
Was talking to one of the players afterwards bout the formation, he said it was 4 4 2 but Paudie kept dropping off. Garry was supposed to be in the squad too but got injured doing something else outside of training, Rory was sick during the week so didn't start, Bradley isnt fully fit, was only able for 30 mins. And, personally, from what I've seen with Sean Brosnan, he's useless on the wing, so I can kind of see what he was thinking with Kelly on the right wing, I'd like to hear others' opinions on who else could have played there though.

Disappointing result, but I think it's about time the players started taking the blame. Some look like they're just going through the motions, if they are not playing for the manager then yes, the board need to look at that situation then, but based on tonight, sack half the players. They look like they don't want to be there, like they don't want to work hard to get promoted. Why should I help pay their wages if Paddy can't be bothered working a little bit harder to clear the ball?
Just my opinion on it though...

You've basically said the players won't play for the manager...manager's fault surely??

Anyway Gillespie didn't move all night plenty of room in midfield, McGann not able to exploit, Bradley when he came on just dropped into those spaces and passed it around and we looked a bit better...thought it would be a fairly ordinary straight forward season with no tension like last year but it's us so we may f**k up or go up...Longford backed on the handicap that looks ok about now

[Jofspring]

I cant see many of the 19s getting a chance in the league , first team players on big wages wont be dropped, pete mahon would be a great capture but scully wont be sacked nor will he walk.

To a certain extent I agree. If Pete Mahon thought an under 19 would do a better job I think he'd play him. He'd at least put pressure on the senior team.

[bluewhitearmy]

You've basically said the players won't play for the manager...manager's fault surely??

Anyway Gillespie didn't move all night plenty of room in midfield, McGann not able to exploit, Bradley when he came on just dropped into those spaces and passed it around and we looked a bit better...thought it would be a fairly ordinary straight forward season with no tension like last year but it's us so we may f**k up or go up...Longford backed on the handicap that looks ok about now

Eaxactly bit strange that if he has been telling them to keep it down and play it all season they haven't done it yet.

[kingpin4]

You've basically said the players won't play for the manager...manager's fault surely??

Anyway Gillespie didn't move all night plenty of room in midfield, McGann not able to exploit, Bradley when he came on just dropped into those spaces and passed it around and we looked a bit better...thought it would be a fairly ordinary straight forward season with no tension like last year but it's us so we may f**k up or go up...Longford backed on the handicap that looks ok about now

I'd agree to an extent, I think the amount of players who were willing to talk to fans after it about tactics says enough. I was talking to a different player than blueandwhitearmy who told me, Scully only says to hoof it for the first few minutes to push them back and make space. But if one player is saying one thing and another player is saying another, it means he is either not explaining himself well enough, or some players aren't listening.
It's just my personal view, but I blame the players, we're not dealing with children here or some precious players on hundreds of thousands a week who could go play with someone else... if they're getting paid to do a job, they have to do it. If I went to work tomorrow and didn't do something my manager told me to, I'd face consequences. They are experienced players and some have played at a very high level. To say they go out and are clueless speaks more about them than it does the manager. Like, can you imagine Alex Ferguson having to tell Vidic "if that ball is going out, don't let them get it. Kick it far away or be strong and leave it out" ...my point is, they are basic errors the players are making which seem to cost us. We give goals to teams, and it comes down to players switching off. Some people are always going to be on the players side though and would rather sack everyone else except them. Football's a funny ole game.

[bluewhitearmy]

I'd agree to an extent, I think the amount of players who were willing to talk to fans after it about tactics says enough. I was talking to a different player than blueandwhitearmy who told me, Scully only says to hoof it for the first few minutes to push them back and make space. But if one player is saying one thing and another player is saying another, it means he is either not explaining himself well enough, or some players aren't listening.
It's just my personal view, but I blame the players, we're not dealing with children here or some precious players on hundreds of thousands a week who could go play with someone else... if they're getting paid to do a job, they have to do it. If I went to work tomorrow and didn't do something my manager told me to, I'd face consequences. They are experienced players and some have played at a very high level. To say they go out and are clueless speaks more about them than it does the manager. Like, can you imagine Alex Ferguson having to tell Vidic "if that ball is going out, don't let them get it. Kick it far away or be strong and leave it out" ...my point is, they are basic errors the players are making which seem to cost us. We give goals to teams, and it comes down to players switching off. Some people are always going to be on the players side though and would rather sack everyone else except them. Football's a funny ole game.

But how do you explain the fact that anytime we have had a big game under Scully we have been awful? There were completely different players there over the last 3 years but the exact same performances under the exact same manager.

A left back not good enough for Pike or Boro being the only left back in the senior squad.
Our best right back playing on the wing.
A 17 year old going up against Gillespie when Bradley was on the bench.
Playing with 1 up top that has us playing crap and is leaving Behan useless and Quinn invisible in every game it has been played this season.
Putting the totally right footed Kelly at left back and the totally left footed Shane Tracy at right wing when we were trying to get the ball into the box.
Which of these things are the players fault? I can have more and more lists like that from big games with different players too.

[blueblood]

If I went to work tomorrow and didn't do something my manager told me to, I'd face consequences. They are experienced players and some have played at a very high level. To say they go out and are clueless speaks more about them than it does the manager. Like, can you imagine Alex Ferguson having to tell Vidic "if that ball is going out, don't let them get it. Kick it far away or be strong and leave it out" ...my point is, they are basic errors the players are making which seem to cost us. We give goals to teams, and it comes down to players switching off. Some people are always going to be on the players side though and would rather sack everyone else except them. Football's a funny ole game.

There should be consequences if thats the case and players should be dropped, or do something to improve things, but he seems to drop the wrong players for whatever reason he has.

If your boss or manager had you doing stupid things at work and kept changing his mind and changing peoples jobs and you didn't agree with what your boss was doing you would probably soon start to get demoralised and just go through the motions and not perform as ye should and would probably make these errors.

Also Scully dosn't seem to be a good boss to have, the amount of players who've left because of him, I've stood by Scully untill recently and not it's fairly obvious he's not the man for the job it's like Groundhog Day over and over and over again, seriously that many players can be wrong and Scully always right?

[Minesapint]

There should be consequences if thats the case and players should be dropped, or do something to improve things, but he seems to drop the wrong players for whatever reason he has.

If your boss or manager had you doing stupid things at work and kept changing his mind and changing peoples jobs and you didn't agree with what your boss was doing you would probably soon start to get demoralised and just go through the motions and not perform as ye should and would probably make these errors.

Also Scully dosn't seem to be a good boss to have, the amount of players who've left because of him, I've stood by Scully untill recently and not it's fairly obvious he's not the man for the job it's like Groundhog Day over and over and over again, seriously that many players can be wrong and Scully always right?
Does anyone really know why scully got a contract for 2 yrs before there was any success.

[bluewhitearmy]

Does anyone really know why scully got a contract for 2 yrs before there was any success.

When i asked last year i was told "To make sure no-one else takes him".

[Minesapint]

When i asked last year i was told "To make sure no-one else takes him".
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[thomas72]

http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/7785/scully---we-lacked-hunger/



HE says HE didn't see the first goal yet say it was a ridiculous goal.

I don't know why we dont start the season well ummo maybe because you haven't a clue what your doing.

[Minesapint]

Very personal comment thomas72, i do agree he should go but players who have played at a higher level than the first division should be as much at fault as the manager and chairman.

[L.T.F.C.]

One thing I forgot to mention before in the LTFC forum...

Your supporters were a delight. Congratulated us on a good win and wished us a safe trip home. I've been to most grounds in the country and never have I got such a reception. Thank you!

[outspoken]

One thing I forgot to mention before in the LTFC forum...

Your supporters were a delight. Congratulated us on a good win and wished us a safe trip home. I've been to most grounds in the country and never have I got such a reception. Thank you!

yes I have to say I don't remember a kinder welcome and send off from any ground in any sporting code. When we arrived some Limerick fans close by asked about our journey up, during the game they complimented our play and at full tine shook our hands, congratulated us and wished us a safe journey really top notch from you guys especially when there was so much disappointment in the air.

Credit.

[Martinho II]

I vouch too for the lads that have said about the good willing from the Limerick fans even in defeat. from the person in the turnstiles to the fans beside us it is very rare that you get this from any rival fans.. We really appreciate this and hope ye get promoted along with us..

[Shannonsider]

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This dawn is not so false, .

It's not too late to retract this statement :p