reynolds

[derm]

I take it that the same sanctimonious tosspots defending mcgrath on here won't use the word junkie or some such in reference to barry ryan and have never used it in connection to trevor molloy?

Why would I (a sanctimonious tosspot) need to defend McGrath? Why do you defend the abuse of an Irish legend who is suffering from a recognised life-threatening medical condition?

I didn't realise that Barry Ryan or Trevor Molloy were seriously addicted to drugs and that it was threatening their lives.



mcgrath has been in football long enough to know what goes on in football and i'm sure he's well able to take it.

If McGrath actually did anything for Waterford then you could abuse that, but to target his alcoholism smacks of the playground. All McGrath has is his past. He rightly could believe that he deserved respect from Irish fans. Irish fans laughing at him is sure to help his self-esteem and give him the strength to fight his illness, isn't it? It doesn't phase Waterford, it tarnishes the City fans reputation and it helps send the man to an early grave.



I've only 2 things to say about the guy
1. While he is a legend in irish football, he's part of waterford and on matchday that makes him a fair target for abuse.
2. He's been given so much pity and so many second chances by the people of this country that he doesn't deserve any more IMO


McGrath like Best gave people something to believe in. They've let people down also, but we're not infants. The good outweighs the bad and I'm very very grateful for the good. McGrath doesn't need pity nor does he need (or deserve) fans mocking his illness.

Let me spell out what it means to be a sanctimonious tosspot:

- I don't laugh at people who have cancer, alcoholism, AIDS or any other serious illness. That's it really. It's also known as common decency. It doesn't matter if I'm on the street or in the shed.

[ccfcman]

1. While he is a legend in irish football, he's part of waterford and on matchday that makes him a fair target for abuse.


if hitler(george dubuyaah bush) plays for cork city then he's a ledgend then


:confused:

[leesider]

Why would I (a sanctimonious tosspot) need to defend McGrath? Why do you defend the abuse of an Irish legend who is suffering from a recognised life-threatening medical condition?

I didn't realise that Barry Ryan or Trevor Molloy were seriously addicted to drugs and that it was threatening their lives.




If McGrath actually did anything for Waterford then you could abuse that, but to target his alcoholism smacks of the playground. All McGrath has is his past. He rightly could believe that he deserved respect from Irish fans. Irish fans laughing at him is sure to help his self-esteem and give him the strength to fight his illness, isn't it? It doesn't phase Waterford, it tarnishes the City fans reputation and it helps send the man to an early grave.





McGrath like Best gave people something to believe in. They've let people down also, but we're not infants. The good outweighs the bad and I'm very very grateful for the good. McGrath doesn't need pity nor does he need (or deserve) fans mocking his illness.

Let me spell out what it means to be a sanctimonious tosspot:

- I don't laugh at people who have cancer, alcoholism, AIDS or any other serious illness. That's it really. It's also known as common decency. It doesn't matter if I'm on the street or in the shed.

would have to agree with everything you said there derm, he suffers from a very serious illness and it is pathetic to take the **** out of him over it!

[Éanna]

if hitler(george dubuyaah bush) plays for cork city then he's a ledgend then


:confused:
what is a ledgend and what the hell are you on about :rolleyes:

[Éanna]

Why would I (a sanctimonious tosspot) need to defend McGrath? Why do you defend the abuse of an Irish legend who is suffering from a recognised life-threatening medical condition?
for the 90 minutes he's part of waterford utd. apart from that give him what ever support or help you want. during a match he's fair game.


If McGrath actually did anything for Waterford then you could abuse that, but to target his alcoholism smacks of the playground. All McGrath has is his past. He rightly could believe that he deserved respect from Irish fans. Irish fans laughing at him is sure to help his self-esteem and give him the strength to fight his illness, isn't it? It doesn't phase Waterford, it tarnishes the City fans reputation and it helps send the man to an early grave.
he got respect, from everyone, me included. and he chose to **** his life away. how anyone still has any time for the guy I will never know.


McGrath like Best gave people something to believe in. They've let people down also, but we're not infants. The good outweighs the bad and I'm very very grateful for the good. McGrath doesn't need pity nor does he need (or deserve) fans mocking his illness.
its quite simple really. getting grief is part of football. if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen :rolleyes:


- I don't laugh at people who have cancer, alcoholism, AIDS or any other serious illness. That's it really. It's also known as common decency. It doesn't matter if I'm on the street or in the shed.

there's a key difference that you are very deliberately (or stupidly) ignoring- alcoholism is self-inflicted.

[DolansWaistcoat]

Eanna,obviously no one one in your family has been effected by alcoholism because you show a complete lack of understanding of it.Yes it can be self- inflicted but it is recognised as a disease also which destroys ppls lives and their families lives are seriously affected too.

[drinkfeckarse]

Listen Eanna, you're either trying to be controversial or just plain ignorant. While technically you have a point that whoever is on the opposing team is fair game, nobody warrants the right to inflict personal abuse on someone. Call him a sh!te football player, call him dirty ba$tard but there's NEVER any call to go as far as you have. Alcoholism is a disease as you will well know. Cancer is a disease as you will well know....would you start taking the **** out of McGrath should he be struck down with that?? My arse you would so why don't you stop digging yourself a hole and grow up.

[Schunter Netz]

I love Eanna's byline, or whatever that little slogan below his comments..."Rebel Army-f*** the begrudgers". If his endlessly belligerent and nasty comments didn't prove otherwise, you'd think this man had a sense of humour! Eanna, King of the little begrudgers!!

[Colm]

While technically you have a point that whoever is on the opposing team is fair game, nobody warrants the right to inflict personal abuse on someone.

So you never mocked an opposing player about his weight or hairstyle or appearance? You never abused somebody about where there from, never called Dubs junkies or Waterford fans sheepshaggers? You never abused Ollie Byrne about his crimianal past? That's all personal abuse.
The opposition is always fair game, whether it's Dan Connor, Alan Reynolds, Ollie Cahill, Trevor Molloy or even Saint Paul McGrath they are all open to abuse and ridicule when the are playing against City.

[razor]

So you never mocked an opposing player about his weight or hairstyle or appearance? You never abused somebody about where there from, never called Dubs junkies or Waterford fans sheepshaggers? You never abused Ollie Byrne about his crimianal past? That's all personal abuse.
The opposition is always fair game, whether it's Dan Connor, Alan Reynolds, Ollie Cahill, Trevor Molloy or even Saint Paul McGrath they are all open to abuse and ridicule when the are playing against City.

Sure we all have and you know it.
But it ain't the same i'm afraid.
On a human level, there is a limit.
I would put this on a par with rascist abuse. unacceptable.
Anyway lads this thread was supposed to be about that l@nger Reynolds, he's getting off lightly while we are all sidetracked by this McGrath issue.
Much and all as I hate Reynolds though if he were an alcoholic I wouldn't stoop there either.

[DolansWaistcoat]

I love Eanna's byline, or whatever that little slogan below his comments..."Rebel Army-f*** the begrudgers". If his endlessly belligerent and nasty comments didn't prove otherwise, you'd think this man had a sense of humour! Eanna, King of the little begrudgers!!

:D Now thats funny.

[derm]

there's a key difference that you are very deliberately (or stupidly) ignoring- alcoholism is self-inflicted.

There is no key difference that I'm ignoring.

In many cases, various types of cancer, type 2 diabetes, AIDS and heart disease can largely be attributed to lifestyle choices. There is also strong evidence that alcoholism is genetic - you're either susceptible or not.

That's not to say that McGrath is blameless but he is addicted, just like the person with lung cancer who couldn't quit smoking.

[drinkfeckarse]

So you never mocked an opposing player about his weight or hairstyle or appearance? You never abused somebody about where there from, never called Dubs junkies or Waterford fans sheepshaggers? You never abused Ollie Byrne about his crimianal past? That's all personal abuse.
The opposition is always fair game, whether it's Dan Connor, Alan Reynolds, Ollie Cahill, Trevor Molloy or even Saint Paul McGrath they are all open to abuse and ridicule when the are playing against City.

None of what you say are life threatening illnesses. The last time I checked having a bad hairstyle or being 6 pounds overweight wasn't a progressive disease although I should have've known you'd jump on the "anything's fair game" bandwagon. From reading some of your other posts you seem incapable of taking off your City tinted specs and dealing with reality.

[paddigol]

I take it that the same sanctimonious tosspots defending mcgrath on here won't use the word junkie or some such in reference to barry ryan and have never used it in connection to trevor molloy? mcgrath has been in football long enough to know what goes on in football and i'm sure he's well able to take it. I've only 2 things to say about the guy
1. While he is a legend in irish football, he's part of waterford and on matchday that makes him a fair target for abuse.
2. He's been given so much pity and so many second chances by the people of this country that he doesn't deserve any more IMO


Why don't you do all us genuine ccfc fans a favour and f##k off to the english premiership where your self-important, aggressive, humourless and ignorant attitude and postings belong you bitter little sh#te.