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max power
23/07/2004, 11:02 AM
just got a text telling me that the brian mcgoverns scottish deal has fallen through, so are we stuck with him or shall be dropped kicked out the door of the flansiro.

Roo69
23/07/2004, 11:05 AM
just got a text telling me that the brian mcgoverns scottish deal has fallen through, so are we stuck with him or shall be dropped kicked out the door of the flansiro.

Whats the story behind this ? is he acting the muppett ?

max power
23/07/2004, 11:09 AM
eh, a lot of floating gossip. but there is another thread about it, his attitude has been bad and he returned to pre season a stone over weight.

he just used us as a stepping stone in his career and never let anyone forget it. alan said enough was enough and blasted him in the press before the european game.

here is the link to the other thread

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=15673

Longfordian
23/07/2004, 11:23 AM
"Super" Caley didnt want to pay money for him..they wanted to take him on loan for six months and give us two of their squad players on loan for the same period..We werent interested in that. Alan wants rid of him, one way or another, he feels the dressing room has improved no end since he left

observer
23/07/2004, 11:33 AM
I'm not surprised the deal is off after all the bad press. Obviously Alan is not going to play him and does not want him around so if no offers come in he should look to put him out on loan. I doubt the Town can afford to be paying him to sit in the stand as the wages bill must be pretty hefty after this seasons signings. Pity everything got so public as it leaves no room for manoeuvre at the end of the day. :ball:

Longfordian
23/07/2004, 11:42 AM
You're not wrong there, we definitely cant afford to be paying players to sit in the stand, so once 1 August comes those that have been spending too much time in the stand and not enough on the pitch will be offloaded if possible, loan if necessary

Maz
23/07/2004, 1:54 PM
I cant imagine McGovern making too many appearances at Flancare considering all the bad press and bad feeling toward him! Is it a case of stay on our list and out of our way until Aug 1st and get rid or wil they try and make it look like happy families for the press? (so to speak)

max power
23/07/2004, 2:00 PM
fcuk the press

Maz
23/07/2004, 2:04 PM
cant see how that will help

max power
23/07/2004, 2:06 PM
they don't give us half enough coverage and when they do they run EL down, plus they give that knob end rody collins a platform to talk crap

town73
23/07/2004, 2:14 PM
they don't give us half enough coverage and when they do they run EL down, plus they give that knob end rody collins a platform to talk crap

I presume you are referring to TV3. I don't think that you can criticise any of the print media for their coverage of the EL.

Maz
23/07/2004, 2:16 PM
Tv3 is not the only coverage for El, i was referring to local as well as the rest!! happy dayz and all that!!

Longfordian
23/07/2004, 2:18 PM
Well we have an obligation to pay him while he's under contract but whether he turns up to claim his wages I dont know, he hasnt been at training since things came to a head so I dont know if he'll turn up again now things have fallen through

town73
23/07/2004, 2:46 PM
Disappointed that you would include the print media in your assessment of EL's poor coverage. The Indo had a reporter at each of the European games last week; the three tabloids give extensive coverage, especially to Premier Division games, with supplements (the examiner is also very good for EL; the local press has always been supportive of Longford Town, with a minimum of a page devoted to the club each week. I can't understand where you think the EL is getting poor coverage in the print media.

max power
23/07/2004, 3:03 PM
I presume you are referring to TV3. I don't think that you can criticise any of the print media for their coverage of the EL.

his articles in the paper he writes for, star on sunday i think ?? haven't spoken too kindly of our league either....english division3 is so much better than premier division here etc, all negative.

local press are great i must agree with you there ( thought you might stand up for them )......

but look at their coverage of across the water on an average monday, 16 pages, we might get one...

one of the biggest papers in the country, sunday world, had about 100 words on cork last weekend. first time i ever seen them with anything at all.


mirror are good on a friday but overall compared to what a certain scotish club get by themselves in the irish press, it is a small amount for a national league.

town73
23/07/2004, 3:23 PM
one of the biggest papers in the country, sunday world, had about 100 words on cork last weekend. first time i ever seen them with anything at all.


mirror are good on a friday but overall compared to what a certain scotish club get by themselves in the irish press, it is a small amount for a national league.

Didn't realise RC wrote for Star on Sunday - I don't get it. I can only imagine what nonsense he's passing off as serious opinion. As for the Sunday Worst, John Byrne does one article each week. Negligible and disappointing.

If you look at the tabloids' coverage of the EL, each has a reporter designated to cover the league and each carry a preview and report and each game. They also have a columnist each week. The broadsheets also have designated sports writers covering the league - David Kelly/Gerry McDermott, Emmett Malone, Bill George. I wouldn't be too disappointed with the coverage. It's improving all the time. Believe me. Competition is a great encouragement to do better.

max power
23/07/2004, 3:30 PM
town 73 agree it is improving, but from nothing to something is an automatic improvment....even aertel are in on the act with el focus.

but as i said 1 game from a scotish team will get 2 pages of coverage, more than OUR whole league does, that is plain for all to see and just encourages these mupp€ts to support that club and run down OUR league.

internet based coverage is where i normally look as the press is so bad in my view, won't part with my money until i get value for money coverage wise and at the mo i don't.i wouldn't say i'm alone on that either.


BYW was that a sensible post by patrick :eek:

oh and patrick i don't read local papers either, i'm living in dublin 9 years and they have no relevalce to my life.

max power
23/07/2004, 3:42 PM
yes and the star of that movie was named after the cathedral on our crest :D . well i know there are a number of people who don't purchase papers because of the bad el coverage and for me the over coverage of that scotish crowd.

and you might not know this but bally duff has a strong town supporters club.

max power
23/07/2004, 3:56 PM
patrick, just a thought. you can actually make some decent points if you cut out the childirh rubbish in the middle of them.......

if i see a paper with 4 pages of el coverage on it, i'll buy it and so would any other el supporter who purchases papers.....but if i see a paper full of scotish and other non irish teams, i won't....as town 73 said sunday worst is a prime example.

match results and previews are all well and good, but i want editorials, opnions, thoughts on the game here....something worth having a debate on here on the boards, example....marketing of the league in general and of each club, or as was mentioned of the past few days with pats, a capping of el wages and penalities for clubs who go over a certain % of club turnover.

see 2 mins and i came up with a few topics, in the coming weeks there will be pieces on topics such as this, written by El fans from various clubs on www.onefinlongford.com , its a start isn't it ????

sullanefc
23/07/2004, 4:10 PM
First of all the Sunday World has to be the Worst for EL coverage. Bought it a couple of weeks ago when Cork were playing NEC. Not one article.(on any EL team!!!) Yet they had the banner "For your Real Irish Soccer" running across the top of all their soccer pages. And what was on these pages? Celtic and Premiership coverage. :rolleyes: They did however have a page on Nantes V Cork last week. Only saw it cos the old man got it. But I for one won't buy it again. Its now my policy to flick through the pages of a paper (looking for EL coverage) in the shop before I buy the paper.
The only paper I wouldn't do this with is the Evening Echo in cork which normally has good coverage. Albeit mostly only covering City, Cobh and Limerick.
As for Aertel, I can't imagine they'll have the same good coverage once the premiership season starts. Think their only giving EL coverage is cos there is no cross channel stuff to report on. I'll judge them in August.

RockofGibraltar
23/07/2004, 4:56 PM
how come everyone at the club has turned against McGovern despite the fact that he had a great season last season and ended up being man-of-the-match in the cup final?
I think him and Matthews should sit down and settle their differences, and then get him back on the pitch doing what he does best...getting his big head onto everything that the opposition throws at him.

Maz
24/07/2004, 6:56 AM
how come everyone at the club has turned against McGovern despite the fact that he had a great season last season and ended up being man-of-the-match in the cup final?
I think him and Matthews should sit down and settle their differences, and then get him back on the pitch doing what he does best...getting his big head onto everything that the opposition throws at him.

this is what i was wondering, i for one thought all was ok until after the dublin city game, matthews has an article in papers slating mc govern and word comes that hes left behind for the europe trip and on his way out of the club! seemly it just is not matthews who is pleased at his departure, many of the players are also!

Longfordian
24/07/2004, 1:30 PM
Its just that the players and mangement felt he wasnt committed to Longford Town in the same way they were..he was complaining about having to play with a slight injury, Vinny said to him apparently that he'd play with a broken leg if it meant he was in the team, McGovern said "Thats alright for you, I've my career to think about, you don't.." Thats just one example that I was told, seemingly that was his main focus, his own career..Anyway he hasnt gone yet and you never know what can happen in football..We'll have to wait and see

Maz
24/07/2004, 1:48 PM
:eek: good riddence, poor vinny!

max power
25/07/2004, 1:22 AM
the godfather once again shows his blood is red, but with a bit of black in there as well, legend !!!! :cool: :cool:

observer
26/07/2004, 8:52 AM
Gibraltar, you are a rock of sense. Matthews wanted a scrapegoat for all the problems at the club and McGovern got the short straw. Since then a campaign of vilification has taken place including,disgracefully, selected tit bits of dressing room chat which, whether true or not, should never have been revealed. No awards or prizes to those who betrayed the traditional code of confidentiality that applies to dressingrooms. Is anybody so nieve as to imagine that gutting a player in public makes the rest of your squad united and happy? On the contrary it has them all wondering who is next for the hatchet. Also Longfordian, many of the Longford players are not happy about what has transpired. Unfortunately in the existing fear culture they are afraid to open their mouths.
You would not need to be a genius to recognise that I have been a hugh fan of McGoverns since I first saw him in action at Flancare and in numerous matches since. I realise now that due to abysmal man management and lack of basic cop on by those who should know better, he will not play for the club again. In addition the club will make little or no money on his departure. :mad:

max power
26/07/2004, 9:05 AM
i also WAS a huge fan of mcgovern, but he is gone !!! done and dusted, just get behind the club for thursday night and some of us might get another flansiro on tour t shirt :D

Longfordian
26/07/2004, 11:55 AM
Thats just rubbish, theres no fear culture, the players get on well with Alan and Aaron, I've seen this up close. Dont think the players were overly bothered whether mcGovern stayed or went but im willing to trust the judgement of people like Vinny Perth who have been around the club long enough for their views to be listened to and as i said he felt mcGovern was not committed..this can be argued over and over again but we wont change anything..by the way McGovern is still our player and if the need arises he'll be used..unlikely but still possible that he'll play for us again