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joeSoap
21/07/2004, 11:27 AM
A recent survey in the States shows Godfather2 as the ultimate mafia movie of all time.
My all time fav has to be Donnie Brasco, followed by Goodfellas, then the Godfather series....any others

Ruairi
21/07/2004, 11:30 AM
Donnie brasco's superb, criminally overlooked here

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 11:35 AM
agreed....Depp excellent.Pacino even better.One of the all-time classics that never got the recognition it deserved. Another really good one is Boss of Bosses, another fact-based movie, about Paul Castellano, leader of the Gambino Family and leads up to his murder by John Gotti.

Roo69
21/07/2004, 11:41 AM
A recent survey in the States shows Godfather2 as the ultimate mafia movie of all time.
My all time fav has to be Donnie Brasco, followed by Goodfellas, then the Godfather series....any others


For me its GoodFellas, fav film of all time. Gotti was another class one.

Plastic Paddy
21/07/2004, 11:45 AM
Whilst it's not a classic Italian gangster movie, Scarface is up there with the best. Al Pacino is immense as Tony Montana. "I kill Communists for fun". What a portrayal.

My three favourites, in no particular order:

1. The Godfather part II
2. Scarface
3. Goodfellas

:D PP

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 12:12 PM
Dog Day Afternoon was another of his gems....surely one of the, if not the best, gangster actor of all time..??

max power
21/07/2004, 12:12 PM
scarface has to be in there. not a big pacino fan, but what a performance.

goodfellas there too and for a laugh stir crazy ha ha

pete
21/07/2004, 12:28 PM
Once Apon a Time in America!

max power
21/07/2004, 12:37 PM
pete, great choice. de niro is a god.

dortie
21/07/2004, 12:39 PM
1. Goodfellas
2. Godfather 2
3. Godfather 1
4. Donnie Brasco
5. Gotti

Shelsman
21/07/2004, 12:42 PM
Errm...aren't ye all forgetting Road to Perdition ??????

tiktok
21/07/2004, 12:56 PM
Errm...aren't ye all forgetting Road to Perdition ??????

Errm...No :D :D

I guess it depends on what you class as a gangster film, we seem to be
We seem to be sticking with relatively recent Mafia flicks

1. Scarface
2. Godfather 2
3. Donnie Brasco

but some others that I'd term gangster films that should be in the reckoning

1. Miller's Crossing
2. Little Caeser
3. On the Waterfront

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 1:09 PM
Errm...No :D :D

I guess it depends on what you class as a gangster film, we seem to be
We seem to be sticking with relatively recent Mafia flicks

1. Scarface
2. Godfather 2
3. Donnie Brasco

but some others that I'd term gangster films that should be in the reckoning

1. Miller's Crossing
2. Little Caeser
3. On the Waterfront

Errrm....road to perdition is more recent than any of those.....
There are other classics to be considered if you take into consideration the English underworld: The Krays, The Long Good Friday, and theres an excellent 4 part series on BBC2 called the Long Firm, starring some guy I never heard of acting as a gay london tough guy in soho...., the original Get Carter with Michael Caine, all classics

DolansWaistcoat
21/07/2004, 1:13 PM
1.Godfather(all of em including 3)
2.Casino
3.Scarface

Never say Donnie Brasco so don't know much about it,I heard a lot of good things about it though.

tiktok
21/07/2004, 1:17 PM
Errrm....road to perdition is more recent than any of those.....

i know, just didn't think it deserves to be rated among the top 3 or 5 ;)

fair point on English Gangster flicks, i'd forgotten those esp Get carter.

max power
21/07/2004, 1:19 PM
lock stock and snatch would be up there as well, they were kinda ganster too along with the brillant essex boys too

the 12 th man
21/07/2004, 1:19 PM
Never saw Donnie Brasco so don't know much about it,I heard a lot of good things about it though.

long time since i saw it.but if it was an excellent movie.
johnny depp goes undercover to infiltrate a gang.pacino was brilliant in it as WELL

pete
21/07/2004, 1:22 PM
pete, great choice. de niro is a god.

Can't believe only 2 of us mentioned this especially when Doinnie Brasco, Casino & Goodfellas get listed.

Also, possibly better than Godfather II, one of my all time favs.

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 1:26 PM
[QUOTE=pete]Can't believe only 2 of us mentioned this especially when Doinnie Brasco, Casino & Goodfellas get listed.QUOTE]
De Niro wasn't in Donnie Brasco.That was Depp, Pacino and Michael Madsen.

noby
21/07/2004, 2:21 PM
Can't believe only 2 of us mentioned this especially when Doinnie Brasco, Casino & Goodfellas get listed.
De Niro wasn't in Donnie Brasco.That was Depp, Pacino and Michael Madsen.

I think you'll find they're referring to 'once upon a time in America'

To add to those already mentioned, how about 'The Untouchables'

pete
21/07/2004, 2:26 PM
I think you'll find they're referring to 'once upon a time in America'

To add to those already mentioned, how about 'The Untouchables'

Doh!

Yeah, Untouchables gets into contenders.

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 2:38 PM
Costner a bit too cheesy to make it a truly great mob epic, but its good.

max power
21/07/2004, 2:40 PM
de niro has signed up for a sequel to the untouchables

dortie
21/07/2004, 2:48 PM
Errm...aren't ye all forgetting Road to Perdition ??????

Was simply ok....not enough bloodshed for me.

'Once upon a time in america' was decent though have to admit.

Metrostars
21/07/2004, 2:53 PM
I like most mentioned but I also like "A Bronx Tale" (DeNiro stars), "Carlitos Way" (Pacino, Penn) and "Mean Streets"(DeNiro, Keitel).

eoinh
21/07/2004, 2:58 PM
This is a thread about gangsters. How come there arent more people from Limerick contributing? :eek:

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 3:09 PM
This is a thread about gangsters. How come there arent more people from Limerick contributing? :eek:
Always going to be one.....what can you do? I started this reply with the intention of getting into a slagging match with you but can't be bothered.

eoinh
21/07/2004, 3:12 PM
It was a JOKE.

I love cinema. For me it has to The Godfather

joeSoap
21/07/2004, 3:55 PM
I KNOW
One of the best moments has to be in goodfellas when Joe Pesci shoots Christopher from the sopranos in the foot...pure class. That and the ear slicing in Reservoir Dogs

Shelsman
21/07/2004, 4:43 PM
Does the film 'Veronica Guerin' count as a gangster movie??? I thought it was a very poor movie to be honest, but that's because I had already seen 'When the sky falls' which is the same story but an excellent film.

I suppose you'd have to include all the Martin Cahill films too, 'The General','Ordinary Decent Criminal' etc 'The General' was a decent movie allright.

NJTom
21/07/2004, 8:06 PM
Goodfellas
Godfather II
The Long Good Friday

All this talk of mafia movies makes me hungry.

A face
21/07/2004, 11:32 PM
Bugsy Mallone !! :D

the 12 th man
22/07/2004, 7:41 AM
speaking about robert de niro

he is to star in a film on the life of doctor harold shipman.
the film has a working title of: THE OLD DEAR HUNTER :D

joeSoap
22/07/2004, 10:18 AM
oh god......please !!

patsh
22/07/2004, 11:02 AM
My choices would be:
Murder Inc. : It's an old black & white film, introduced the term "hit" into common usage, excellent stuff.
The Public Enemy, Angels with Dirty Faces, White Heat: All Jimmy Cagney classics.

Once upon a time in America.

Hoffa.

max power
22/07/2004, 11:03 AM
one 70's movie i have forgotten was the sting, with robert redford and paul newman, a complete movie masterpiece.

joeSoap
22/07/2004, 1:04 PM
and some of the choreography and sets were amazing.
so they were dancing in amazing fashion??.........think u mean cinematography :)

max power
22/07/2004, 1:05 PM
no there was dancing in the cotton club.....

joeSoap
22/07/2004, 1:06 PM
I stand corrected.

eoinh
22/07/2004, 1:26 PM
:D :D



For good cinematography, try the Company of Wolves or Dances with Wolves, neither of which contain gangsters...

You would have thought though that a film called "Dances with Wolves" would have good choreography as well :) .

Actually Conor, the original Scareface from the 30's is supposed to be far superior to the remake. Aiming to get a copy of it (the original that is) in the coming months.

max power
22/07/2004, 1:39 PM
blast from the past, bugsie malone !!!! ha ha good old/well young jodie foster

eoinh
22/07/2004, 1:48 PM
Speaking of films, Eoin, was it you who mentioned Mike Leigh on a recent 'best directors' thread?



No, it wasnt me. Havent watched any of his films recently. Hes good though.

noby
22/07/2004, 2:31 PM
blast from the past, bugsie malone !!!! ha ha good old/well young jodie foster


Amazing to think, that was the same year as taxi driver. Talk about different roles!

max power
22/07/2004, 2:34 PM
ya just slightly, 2 months since i watched taxi driver, must watch it over the weekend

slow2anger
22/07/2004, 3:50 PM
Don't forget about the Yakuza........Brother/Boiling Point/Sontaine to name but a few - Beat Takeshi is a legend.

tiktok
22/07/2004, 3:52 PM
Beat Takeshi is a legend.

Boiling Point....definitely a good call :cool:

joeSoap
23/07/2004, 8:53 AM
Boiling Point....definitely a good call :cool:
Whats it about?...Who's in it?.never heard of it!! :confused:

Ruairi
23/07/2004, 10:02 AM
Not a movie, but isn't Clamps out of Futurama the funniest gangster ever?

joeSoap
23/07/2004, 10:10 AM
Not a movie, but isn't Clamps out of Futurama the funniest gangster ever?
Yeah...quite funny, and Sammy "The Mechanical Bull" Gravano.
Fat Tony in the Simpsons is quite good too. :D

ccfcman
23/07/2004, 4:29 PM
goodfells Q.E.D. :cool: