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Lim till i die
24/09/2011, 12:49 AM
B@lls
What's another year?
False modesty from a Cork fan. :bulgy:
Almost as disgusting as the gravy chip I just ate.
Almost.
carrickharp
24/09/2011, 1:18 AM
So much for Kelly being the best whistler in LOI.
:D
Best? he has been doing this for years if he is the best so god help us.
Kelly was useless tonight, best me hole. Even the lino clattered into a ballboy.
He wasnt long apologising to the youngfella after the mother nearly jumped the fence tho!
bullit
24/09/2011, 1:58 AM
Kelly was useless tonight, best me hole. Even the lino clattered into a ballboy.
He wasnt long apologising to the youngfella after the mother nearly jumped the fence tho!
I seen that too Dunny :D
If there is a video of that out there,i would pay money too see it LOL !! Kelly is a gimp,Quigleys undeserved sending off ruined what would have been a good match.Patricks are no hot **** and missed a lot of handy oul chances tonight.I dont get the "pinnochio" song that they sing either,who or what is that all about??
I seen that too Dunny :D
If there is a video of that out there,i would pay money too see it LOL !! Kelly is a gimp,Quigleys undeserved sending off ruined what would have been a good match.Patricks are no hot **** and missed a lot of handy oul chances tonight.I dont get the "pinnochio" song that they sing either,who or what is that all about??
it seems that that is two games in a row that a player has received 2 yellows in the space of 30 seconds - the second for talking back or abusing the ref. Harsh alright but the players need to cop on. Its like Dundalk under Seanie all over again.
Its like Dundalk under Seanie all over again.
It's nothing like that.
False modesty from a Cork fan. :bulgy:
Almost as disgusting as the gravy chip I just ate.
Almost.
In fairness, Razor is a foccer. It's built into them to see the worst in EVERYTHING, and they pride themselves on it! So it's probably not false from him.
I'm still semi-confident, of third at least. I'm also aware though that that's when they crush you, so cautiously optimistic. We're good enough to do it, it'l come down to if we have mental ability
All 3 teams chasing 2nd and 3rd are in excellent form atm, and getting the luck when needed, so it's gonna be one hell of a last month if nothing else!
bullit
24/09/2011, 5:03 AM
it seems that that is two games in a row that a player has received 2 yellows in the space of 30 seconds - the second for talking back or abusing the ref. Harsh alright but the players need to cop on. Its like Dundalk under Seanie all over again.
Not at all like the time that shaunneee was here,although it might look like that.Dundalk were 3rd in the fair play leauge before Tuesday nights game. It was prob the only leauge that we were looking likely for,but we up and ruined it :D
i know, i know - it was tongue in cheek lads...
Players do need to learn to shut up though.
bullit
24/09/2011, 5:49 AM
You're about 3k too high with ours there
His 8250 Euros includes PRSI.
People or clubs sometimes forget that that must be paid !! And that they(tax crowd) are the crowd that will be on their uppers to feck you up.
sullanefc
24/09/2011, 7:49 AM
Players do need to learn to shut up though.
Absolutely. Its about time that referees started sending people off for mouthing. We need to see more of this and hopefully players will learn that its not ok to abuse refs.
bullit
24/09/2011, 7:58 AM
Absolutely. Its about time that referees started sending people off for mouthing. We need to see more of this and hopefully players will learn that its not ok to abuse refs.
In the 1st instance,quigely did not abuse anyone.
I seen that too Dunny :D
If there is a video of that out there,i would pay money too see it LOL !! Kelly is a gimp,Quigleys undeserved sending off ruined what would have been a good match.Patricks are no hot **** and missed a lot of handy oul chances tonight.I dont get the "pinnochio" song that they sing either,who or what is that all about??
long time nickname of Jason Byrne. Works for Hawkins too
Before Quigo was booked he was already warned about mouthing twice. Clearly didn't want to be there. \i think only Dundalk's number 6 looked like he wanted to play. the rest, including Byrne, were a disgrace
We walked the 2nd half. Literally didn't run once
bullit
24/09/2011, 8:12 AM
long time nickname of Jason Byrne. Works for Hawkins too
Before Quigo was booked he was already warned about mouthing twice. Clearly didn't want to be there. \i think only Dundalk's number 6 looked like he wanted to play. the rest, including Byrne, were a disgrace
We walked the 2nd half. Literally didn't run once
Well if that is yee then i dont think the rest off the leauge should worry,i think i may have said that already,but i like to repeat myself.
Huh? I never said we were good/bad
Just that Dundalk were a disgrace and we didn't have to play at all to comfortably win
Has on the LOI site that Mons and Shels are level, Didn't think that was righterrortel for all their problems have the table right (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/236-02.html) I think
Shels are 4 points clear of Mons who both have 24 played, we are a point behing Mons on 25 games, Limerick are level with us on 26 games.
False modesty from a Cork fan. :bulgy:Almost.Call it the ingrained pessimism of years supporting Cork City.
I see a very similar version on the Limerick forum.
In fairness, Razor is a foccer (http://flic.kr/p/apTF5A). It's built into them to see the worst in EVERYTHING, and they pride themselves on it! So it's probably not false from him.Why thank you, thats probably the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me :D
born2bwild
24/09/2011, 9:30 AM
Ah Jaysus, no "should be a win but...." needed. With respect to any AT supporters on here, but they are the worst team I have seen this year, and that's up against some pretty stiff competition, I can tell you.
I'd be surprised with anything less that a 0-3 scoreline. Philly will fill his boots.
Drogheda were worse last night.
Rasputin
24/09/2011, 11:12 AM
Drogheda were worse last night.
Have you seen Galway this season?
born2bwild
24/09/2011, 11:25 AM
Actually, no, well on telly, yeah, but that doesn't really count. Don't think I've seen Bray either. Everyone else, yeah - Drogheda were great for a while mid season - I saw them draw with Shams 1-1 and Dundalk 2-2, games they deserved to win but last night was poorest performance I've seen by a team this year
gufc2000
24/09/2011, 2:09 PM
How could Dundalk look interested when their top player got sent off after yee netted the first after 15mins ? Up hill battle then.Kelly gave yee everything,aided by the two linesmen.So much for Kelly being the best whistler in LOI. O' Connor got booked for that silly wee celebration in front of the shed btw,i think he done that because he got a bigger cheer there.
:D
Thats an abysmal excuse. Didn't stop ye from looking interested when Connor was over ye and ye used to get red cards every other match.
it seems that that is two games in a row that a player has received 2 yellows in the space of 30 seconds - the second for talking back or abusing the ref. Harsh alright but the players need to cop on. Its like Dundalk under Seanie all over again.
I'd nearly go as far and say ye were better under Connor. Didn't ye finish 5th under him? Foster has done poorly in his 2 seasons, Fair enough he has a small squad, but quality wise its a good side.
Foster will hardly be kept on will he?
Huh? I never said we were good/bad
Just that Dundalk were a disgrace and we didn't have to play at all to comfortably win
Seems to be a the general view ok, I know of at least 4 season ticket holders who left at HT. They were disgusted at the lack of effort. 3rd year in a row our season is over with 2 mths to play, and these guys are on very decent money too. Byrne, Bolger, Ward, Gaynor, Cherrie all very poor overall, as for the sick list, Hawkins/Maher both had 'form' too risky to sign in my view. Others just couldnt give a toss at this stage.
I wish we could recruit thetype of players like yourselves and Bohs do, nothing too attractive, but by fxxx they work for the team and put in consistent shifts.
As for Quigley, I dont care if people say he didnt say that much to the ref, he was only after a yellow, doesnt wash with me, to get sent off after 15 mins is a disgrace, but of course Foster will blame the refs, just like Connor did two years ago.
gormacha
24/09/2011, 3:07 PM
Absolutely. Its about time that referees started sending people off for mouthing. We need to see more of this and hopefully players will learn that its not ok to abuse refs.
This is a real bugbear of mine. It's one of the two aspects of our game that I despise (the other is "simulation").
This can't be changed by individual referees. It's up to FIFA to set the tone, and then let every association on the ladder after that follow them. Down to every level of the game, especially including schoolboy and schoolgirl leagues.
There should be zero tolerance of verbal abuse to referees. Each and every instance of it should be a booking. A few sendings off (and consequent points dropped) and players would learn to shut the phuq up.
I would go so far as to say that players shouldn't even be allowed to talk to the ref. The captain maybe as his or her side's rep, and that's it.
I've often thought of becoming a referee, but haven't done it because of the inevitable abuse that I'd get.
I would go so far as to say that players shouldn't even be allowed to talk to the ref. The captain maybe as his or her side's rep, and that's it.
I've often thought of becoming a referee, but haven't done it because of the inevitable abuse that I'd get.
There isn't enough abuse of certain referees. They're nowhere near good enough to merit penalising criticism of their decisions. There certainly isn't enough criticism of Buttimer or Hancock or McKeon and if the 'refereeing panel' won't do it...
Their decision making is by far a bigger problem than simulation or mouthing off. In the majority of cases, the person mouthing off is right. Perhaps the blame lies on the poor role models for new referees than the abuse they get.
Martinho II
24/09/2011, 8:15 PM
Thats an abysmal excuse. Didn't stop ye from looking interested when Connor was over ye and ye used to get red cards every other match.
I'd nearly go as far and say ye were better under Connor. Didn't ye finish 5th under him? Foster has done poorly in his 2 seasons, Fair enough he has a small squad, but quality wise its a good side.
Foster will hardly be kept on will he?
wonder will foster swap clubs with connor again?
gormacha
24/09/2011, 8:24 PM
There isn't enough abuse of certain referees. They're nowhere near good enough to merit penalising criticism of their decisions. There certainly isn't enough criticism of Buttimer or Hancock or McKeon and if the 'refereeing panel' won't do it...
I don't see how players screaming abuse at these (or any other) referees would improve their ability to make good decisions.
Just so we're clear - I'm not here defending the quality of LOI referees that you may have a problem with. I'm simply stating that the game of football would be a better place if abusing referees wasn't endemic within football culture.
Referees might actually listen to criticism of their performance if it wasn't couched in abuse, or if they didn't have to run the gauntlet of angry supporters/players/parents.
Their decision making is by far a bigger problem than simulation or mouthing off. In the majority of cases, the person mouthing off is right.
Now you're setting up straw man arguments. Its not an either/or between poor refereeing and the poor behaviour of some players.
Perhaps the blame lies on the poor role models for new referees than the abuse they get.
I'm not sure what this means. Is it another way of saying that referees deserve everything they get if they get a decision wrong?
Mr Maroon
24/09/2011, 8:36 PM
wonder will foster swap clubs with connor again?
Absolutely no way.
wonder will foster swap clubs with connor again?
The only club Seanie is with now is a strip one.
And I dont think Fozzy wants First Division football next season either. ;)
geezer
24/09/2011, 9:28 PM
Absolutely no way.
Foster going west? 100% No
PartySaint
24/09/2011, 10:22 PM
I wish we could recruit thetype of players like yourselves and Bohs do, nothing too attractive, but by fxxx they work for the team and put in consistent shifts.
.
It's down to the managers that our players work so hard, As I have said before, Foster is the worst manager in the league
monkey9
25/09/2011, 1:36 AM
Even if Sean Connor was still managing Galway, Foster would still be easily the worst manager in the league. He hasn't even got Dundalk being competitive with Bohs ffs. He's been found out big time this season. And he's running out of bull**** aftermatch nonsense on MNS as well. I reckon this is his last season in the LOI. Awful manager!!
I'm not sure what this means. Is it another way of saying that referees deserve everything they get if they get a decision wrong?
It's a way of saying that good professional role model referees are in short supply in the League of Ireland (which is of relevance here). The abuse they get would not be representative of the reception a good referee would get.
bullit
25/09/2011, 2:13 AM
Even if Sean Connor was still managing Galway, Foster would still be easily the worst manager in the league. He hasn't even got Dundalk being competitive with Bohs ffs. He's been found out big time this season. And he's running out of bull**** aftermatch nonsense on MNS as well. I reckon this is his last season in the LOI. Awful manager!!
Not agreeing or disagreeing with you monkey9 but have a look here http://www.dundalkfc.com/update-on-contract-talks-with-ian-foster
Also an online pool on Orielweb http://www.orielweb.com/dundalktalk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8571 gives him 67% of the vote, from 134 people that voted.(for him to remain as Dundalk manager)
monkey9
25/09/2011, 2:30 AM
Not agreeing or disagreeing with you monkey9 but have a look here http://www.dundalkfc.com/update-on-contract-talks-with-ian-foster
Also an online pool on Orielweb http://www.orielweb.com/dundalktalk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8571 gives him 67% of the vote, from 134 people that voted.(for him to remain as Dundalk manager)
I just honestly don't get that support for Foster. I have absolutely no issues with Dundalk whatsover, i just think with the squad you's have had this season, a decent manager would have you further up the table.
As an outsider looking in, all i can see is that Ian Foster became your manager and you went backwards!!
Charlie Darwin
25/09/2011, 2:39 AM
Lads, I think people forget how inexperienced Ian Foster is. He's only been in management for a couple of years and he's the same age as Hawkins and Jason Byrne. He's had Dundalk playing lovely football and he's going to become a very, very good manager. I hope he does it in Ireland rather than going back to England and working his way through the leagues there.
Would I be correct in saying most of Dundalk's players still live in Dublin? At least the ones who don't actually come from Louth. Dundalk will always have to pay a wage premium to attract players so you'll have to pay more money to the same player than the likes of Bohs or Pats, and I suspect you'll also get lads who aren't as fully committed to the cause as others.
freewheel30
25/09/2011, 3:43 AM
Foster has passion, which is good, but is vastly inexperienced, and with Dundalk probably wanting to kick on and become serious contenders for honours, then he's probably not the man for that. He's helped them consolidate their position in the Premier, which he deserves a certain amount of credit for, and there's probably a fair few things that he's doing right, but from a Dundalk perspective I guess ye don't want to / can't afford to sit around and wait for him to "grow" as a manager.
Charlie Darwin
25/09/2011, 3:54 AM
Who in Ireland is going to replace him that has those qualities though? Martin Russell is just as inexperienced as Foster. Doolin is unlikely to leave his Ireland post. After that you're into the same old pool of Richardson, Collins, etc. that you really don't want to be dipping into.
monkey9
25/09/2011, 4:34 AM
Who in Ireland is going to replace him that has those qualities though? Martin Russell is just as inexperienced as Foster. Doolin is unlikely to leave his Ireland post. After that you're into the same old pool of Richardson, Collins, etc. that you really don't want to be dipping into.
This is a question i was expecting to come up and i don't have an answer to. But take this Dundalk squad. Surely the likes of Damien Richardson can do better.
People slag of Fenlon for being a cheque book manager, but he's put together a decent squad and is challeging for honours! Dundalk's season is over!!
I suppose he is young, in fairness. But the nonsense he spouts on MNS does my head in!!
But the nonsense he spouts on MNS does my head in!!
Same as Pete Mahon sure..
Charlie Darwin
25/09/2011, 4:44 AM
Damien Richardson might be able to do better... until he decides he likes being a TV pundit more and quits. The LOI is too small to rely on a small pool of established managers and we're always going to have to blood young managers like Foster, O'Neill and Cook.
Fenlon should be untouchable. He's a great manager and should have moved onto a better paying job in the SPL by now. I'm a Rovers fan but I have huge respect for the job he's done and it should be obvious how good he is. It seems in this country that managers don't get the credit they deserve - look at Michael O'Neill, he's qualified for the Europa League and people still say he's a crap manager.
bullit
25/09/2011, 4:56 AM
Same as Pete Mahon sure..
Pete sure likes WHINE with his cheese :D
monkey9
25/09/2011, 5:06 AM
Same as Pete Mahon sure..
How very dare you!!!
monkey9
25/09/2011, 5:13 AM
Damien Richardson might be able to do better... until he decides he likes being a TV pundit more and quits. The LOI is too small to rely on a small pool of established managers and we're always going to have to blood young managers like Foster, O'Neill and Cook.
Fenlon should be untouchable. He's a great manager and should have moved onto a better paying job in the SPL by now. I'm a Rovers fan but I have huge respect for the job he's done and it should be obvious how good he is. It seems in this country that managers don't get the credit they deserve - look at Michael O'Neill, he's qualified for the Europa League and people still say he's a crap manager.
I do agree with you Charlie and you're right. It's always great to have a good pool, a bit like the playing options. But there's something about Foster that just does me head in. I think he's a chancer!!
born2bwild
25/09/2011, 10:49 AM
Damien Richardson might be able to do better... until he decides he likes being a TV pundit more and quits. The LOI is too small to rely on a small pool of established managers and we're always going to have to blood young managers like Foster, O'Neill and Cook.
Fenlon should be untouchable. He's a great manager and should have moved onto a better paying job in the SPL by now. I'm a Rovers fan but I have huge respect for the job he's done and it should be obvious how good he is. It seems in this country that managers don't get the credit they deserve - look at Michael O'Neill, he's qualified for the Europa League and people still say he's a crap manager.
Well he was offered a job there, of course.
I think he should be the next Ireland manager.
Stevo Da Gull
25/09/2011, 2:40 PM
Bray 1-0 up in Tallaght, but down to 10 men (Shane O'Connor, two yellows) and Devlin sent from the bench as well.
Stevo Da Gull
25/09/2011, 2:46 PM
1-1 now, not looking good for us now. McCabe with the goal.
C'mon lads!
Sam_Heggy
25/09/2011, 4:37 PM
Harps - Salthill was brutal on the eye but... that's now our 4th clean sheet in a row (6 in the last 7) and we've now taken 14 of the last 21 points on offer.
I just hope te fook that Felix can maintain this into next season and we can get a push on for promotion places again.
Guinney
25/09/2011, 4:45 PM
Would I be correct in saying most of Dundalk's players still live in Dublin? At least the ones who don't actually come from Louth. Dundalk will always have to pay a wage premium to attract players so you'll have to pay more money to the same player than the likes of Bohs or Pats, and I suspect you'll also get lads who aren't as fully committed to the cause as others.
Fair point. At the start of the season when Bolger signed for the now defunct Fingal instead of us, he said his reason was due to the extra travel involved. Of our current 17 first team squad, I'd say 7 would be based in & around Dublin. 7 are locals and the other 3 probably moved close enough to Dundalk. We also have a bunch of youths on the bench.
Joe Strummer
25/09/2011, 5:00 PM
Finished 5-2 to Rovers in Tallaght. McCabe with 2, Rickets, Finn & Twigg. Jake Kelly with both of Brays.
Does anybody know how many players/Managers that Tool Winters has sent off this year??
Every game he is in charge of he sends somebody off.
hoops1
25/09/2011, 5:24 PM
The game in Tallaght looked like it was following the same pattern as the two previous matches this season. The sending of was a tad harsh and turned the game.
It looked like he was trying to put his arm across him rather than hit him in the face. It was more to do with big man v small man than anything nasty.
Spudulika
25/09/2011, 5:51 PM
Damien Richardson might be able to do better... until he decides he likes being a TV pundit more and quits. The LOI is too small to rely on a small pool of established managers and we're always going to have to blood young managers like Foster, O'Neill and Cook.
Fenlon should be untouchable. He's a great manager and should have moved onto a better paying job in the SPL by now. I'm a Rovers fan but I have huge respect for the job he's done and it should be obvious how good he is. It seems in this country that managers don't get the credit they deserve - look at Michael O'Neill, he's qualified for the Europa League and people still say he's a crap manager.
I have to say I'm not MON's biggest fan, as a person he's grand, as a coach and tactician he's grand, but he's too defensive minded for my liking and could have done so much more this season with the players he has - how is that for stupidity on my part. Rovers are in the running for the league again, made history in Europe and still finding fault with a top manager. I'd love to see him move to a league where his ability would be tested and valued, same with PF, both would do good jobs with middling sides in a number of countries. Right now they're 1 and 2 in Ireland.
Ian Foster I liked at Galway, at Dundalk he can make all the excuses he wants and spin in circles, he's just not the manager needed to make the most of a better bunch of players. Would Rico do better with them, wasn't he in the running for the Dundalk job originally but turned it down (sure a DFC insider can clear that up). He has the knowledge and contacts to get results at a club like Dundalk, but would the fans understand it?
The LOI is a good testing ground for managers, like other little brother leagues in Europe (Austria and Switzerland for Germany etc). But I can't see where the next bright hope is coming from.
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