John Flanagan

[TrapAPony]

Seen him playing a few times and always thought he was quite composed for an 18 year old. Call him up. Great potential & can cover left back too.

[tricky_colour]

On the other forum the guy posting says he heard it on "Radio at 7 this morning",
Not sure what he means by that, there is a RTE radio show, Sport at 7, but it is not
on in the morning. So I would not put to much weight on the words of someone
who can't even articulate where he heard it!!

[TrapAPony]

On the other forum the guy posting says he heard it on "Radio at 7 this morning",
Not sure what he means by that, there is a RTE radio show, Sport at 7, but it is not
on in the morning. So I would not put to much weight on the words of someone
who can't even articulate where he heard it!!

It was in The Star (I know) too supposedly. There must be something behind the rumour.

[tricky_colour]

It was in The Star (I know) too supposedly. There must be something behind the rumour.

Which 'The Star' is that?

[TrapAPony]

Which 'The Star' is that?

Irish Daily Star

[tricky_colour]

Unfortunately not a newspaper which puts it's content on-line, or indeed a newspaper :)

[SwanVsDalton]

Unfortunately not a newspaper which puts it's content on-line, or indeed a newspaper :)

Take one tournament qualification. Add one player qualified for Ireland but undeclared. Run stories on different players every week until tournament. Job done.

[tricky_colour]

Interesting bit here:-

http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=262189

John Flanagan left the England U21 squad earlier in the week to join up with England at U19 level instead to cover for injuries at that level for the match on Thursday. The Liverpool defender, along with Everton's Ross Barkley, missed the U21s European Championship qualifier with Iceland yesterday evening but both will return to the U21 squad now.

England U21s will face Belgium on Monday and Flanagan will hope to play some part in that match however the fact that he was asked to join the U19s tends to point towards this most likely not being the case this time round?

John still has plenty of years ahead of him though, in what promises to be a bright future, so further chances will come at various levels with England for the defender.

Read more: http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=262189#ixzz1eS4RMYRQ

[DannyInvincible]

According to someone on that other forum:


His uncle Christy use to own Flanagans on the South Circular Rd.

Didn't someone on the last page of this thread say there was no immediate Irish connection on his father's side? If his uncle owned Flanagan's pub in Dublin though, then presumably Jon's paternal grandparents were from Dublin?

[Kingdom]

That has to be Flanagan's down at Rialto - The Bird Flanagan I think it's called. At the moment I don't see how his changing allegiance will affect the Senior side. If Kevin Foley can't make right full his own because of inferior size, then John Flanagan won't either.

[drummerboy]

All I could find was this, (http://www.freeforum101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=797916&sid=2d56bdc5abbacc14c73ea2f8517a311b&mforum=lsl) which is probably the other message board you mentioned. In which case I'd have led you in a circle and will accept the full force of your wrath. :D

Yea thats where I seen it. Didn't want to admit I frequent such a den of inequity. :o

[BonnieShels]

Yea thats where I seen it. Didn't want to admit I frequent such a den of inequity. :o

In fairness to Liverpool fans they are very equitable when it comes to being offended by fans of all other clubs.

[Maroon 7]

Rumours that he's declaring for Ireland in a well known tabloid tomorrow.


@Richard_Buxton_ - Jon Flanagan coming on for #LFC as Shelvey extends the advantage. Interesting story on the defender in tomorrow's Irish papers...

All I'll say regarding Flanagan is that if you're in Eire tomorrow morning, pick up a copy of the Irish Daily Star #LFC

[Sullivinho]

Aah, that point in a potential prospect's thread when the genealogy becomes reality. Allegedly.

[BonnieShels]

I look forward to perusing the Shtar tomorrow.

[peadar1987]

Rumours that he's declaring for Ireland in a well known tabloid tomorrow.

It'll be him declaring for Norn Iron, and the "interesting story" will be a cracking yarn about the time he threw up behind the Central Bank on a stag night.

[The Fly]

It'll be him declaring for Norn Iron

April 1st is 85 days away.

[The Fly]

Flanagan's thread on RAWK (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=281149.80)

[tricky_colour]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/flanagan-close-to-ireland-switch-179317.html

YOUNG Liverpool right-back Jon Flanagan is understood to be on the verge of declaring for the Republic of Ireland.
The highly-rated defender, who turned 19 on New Year’s Day, qualifies through the so-called ‘grandparent rule’ and has apparently been ruminating on the decision for a number of months.

The Irish Examiner understands that, although there has yet to be any official contact between the FAI and Flanagan, he would be "welcomed with open arms" by the Irish set-up. The right-back has appeared for England U19s and U21s in the past year but reportedly feels that his long-term international future might be better served with Ireland.

Flanagan came on for Fabio Aurelio in the 71st minute of his club’s 5-1 FA Cup third round win over Oldham Athletic at Anfield last night and, just like his previous 10 appearances for Liverpool over the past season and a half, quietly impressed.

Should he declare for the FAI, then he could also solve a long-term problem for Ireland at right-back.


Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/flanagan-close-to-ireland-switch-179317.html#ixzz1ik9rPC1s

[TrapAPony]

More of the same so. Still no definite evidence that he is declaring.

[DannyInvincible]

Do we have a long-term problem at right-back? O'Shea, Kelly, Foley, McSh-... well; all reasonably competent right-backs. The likes of Coleman, Wilson and Delaney could also do a job there if required, I'm sure. Strength in depth at left-back is the greater worry.

I'd definitely welcome a declaration from Flanagan though.

[The Fly]

I'd definitely welcome a declaration from Flanagan though.

Indeed, the more the merrier.

[TrapAPony]

What does it say in the Irish Daily Star about him?

[Predator]

John Aldridge bigging him up suggesting that he'd get his debut within months of declaring...

[TrapAPony]

JamesPearceEcho (http://twitter.com/#!/JamesPearceEcho) James Pearce
Been told that #LFC (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23LFC)'s Jon Flanagan won't be switching allegiances to Ireland as he couldn't even he wanted to. Not even an Irish gran

[DannyInvincible]

Odd. So where are the Daily Star/Examiner getting their info?

[tricky_colour]

http://forums.lfconline.com/showthread.php?t=148664

We were given a tip-off that he qualifies and is interested. An FAI source backed it up. Then again, not the first time this has happened! I remember Brady talking about bringing in Kevin Nolan in Trapp's first press conference when he was no longer eligible.

[DannyInvincible]

Odd. So where is James Pearce of the Echo getting his info? :p

[tricky_colour]

Well apparently "someone told him".
Who that someone is is unknown, maybe they read it somewhere on an internet forum.
It's all speculation really until someone can produce official documents.

[Qwerty]

He's a very long way from being ready for senior international level, any time I've seen him play for Liverpool last season he looked a liability. Hasn't had a look in this season after his early season error against Sunderland cost them 2 points ( sub last night ). In time he could be a good player or just as likely sink down the divisions...

[tricky_colour]

More speculation here,http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1215084-liverpool-fc-starlet-could-make-euro-2012-appearance.html


Jon Flanagan could be heading to this summer's European Championships with the Republic of Ireland.

The right-back made a second-half cameo during Liverpool's 5-1 win over Oldham in last night's FA Cup tie and is seriously considering to switch his international allegiances.

Flanagan has featured regularly in England's youth set-up over the past year but could defect from his home land barely three months since he last answered their call.

He was initially called up to the under-19's squad in May last year but was forced to withdraw due to a calf injury before receiving a call-up for the under-21's in October.

His international bow came in a Euro 2013 qualifying win over Iceland, which England won 3-0, before being recalled for the under-19's for their 1-0 win over Denmark a month later.

Now Flanagan could put himself in contention a place in Giovanni Trapattoni's squad for Euro 2012 on account having an Irish grandfather, and has been heavily monitored by the Republic.

Anfield legend John Aldridge believes that the promising right-back is more than capable of making the grade, especially ahead of the finals in Poland and the Ukraine.

"From my point of view I think it'd be a fantastic experience for him," he told the Irish Daily Star.

"The fact is we are trying to blood young players in at Ireland. Trapattoni's done a great job and he would certainly get into the squad very quickly.

"It's an area that we haven't got an awful lot of young lads that fit the bill. They've looked at young Flanno and thought he's ready-made for us. He's got good experience already playing for Liverpool and England at great levels.

"If he wants to go one step closer and do it very early in his career, this would be a great opportunity."

Flanagan, 19, is expected to leave Liverpool on loan before the transfer window closes this month to gain first-team experience after a similar deal with Leeds United fell through in November.

Aldridge, however, believes that the Childwall-born youngster could make his international debut in the months leading up to this summer's tournament if he opts for the Irish.

He added: "Trapattoni wants to build for the future. He's looking at young lads and he fits the bill.

"He would get his debut in the next few months, that's a fact, and be given a great opportunity."

[tricky_colour]

Nothing on his twitter account
https://twitter.com/jon_flan93

However he has made no tweets for the last few days.......suspicious????

[Charlie Darwin]

More speculation here,http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1215084-liverpool-fc-starlet-could-make-euro-2012-appearance.html


Jon Flanagan could be heading to this summer's European Championships with the Republic of Ireland.
Ha! Ridiculous.

[third policeman]

I know his father and uncles very well. I asked ages ago about qualification and they were very clear that he is not eligible. His nearest connection is great grandparent. Unless his mother has a closer connection that his father did not know about (ie one of her parents is Irish and he hadn't noticed - which seems highly unlikely), he is not qualified. I'll ask again today and report back.

[third policeman]

Just spoken to his Uncle Paul. He's definitely not eligible. The article is absolute rubbish. Wouldn't mind Jonjo Shelvey though.

[theworm2345]

I know his father and uncles very well. I asked ages ago about qualification and they were very clear that he is not eligible. His nearest connection is great grandparent. Unless his mother has a closer connection that his father did not know about (ie one of her parents is Irish and he hadn't noticed - which seems highly unlikely), he is not qualified. I'll ask again today and report back.
It is possible to be eligible through a great grandparent if your parent had registered for citizenship before you were born...though from your other post I'd say this either isn't the case or he's just not interested.

[Philly]

I just noticed he ended up playing for Ireland in my Football Manager 2012 - could they know something we don't!?

[tricky_colour]

I just noticed he ended up playing for Ireland in my Football Manager 2012 - could they know something we don't!?

Is it possible you or someone else changed his nationality?

[Philly]

Nope. I'm using the latest databases, unedited. It says he was born in Liverpool and is eligible for both England and Ireland. He did wait until 2017 before claiming for us though, after previously playing with the English U21 side. Anyway, it would be interesting to know where they get their info from. It could be a matter of assuming things due to his name.

[Charlie Darwin]

Nope. I'm using the latest databases, unedited. It says he was born in Liverpool and is eligible for both England and Ireland. He did wait until 2017 before claiming for us though, after previously playing with the English U21 side. Anyway, it would be interesting to know where they get their info from. It could be a matter of assuming things due to his name.
World Cup 2018 here we come!

[TrapAPony]

Pity about Flanagan. Oh well, I suppose we can always get someone like Kyle Naughton for the right back spot.

[Qwerty]

Pity about Flanagan. Oh well, I suppose we can always get someone like Kyle Naughton for the right back spot.

Yeah I'm sure there must be quite a few other English & Scottish right-backs we could nab, we'll get one, just you see.

[elroy]

More speculation here,[url]

Aldridge, however, believes that the Childwall-born youngster could make his international debut in the months leading up to this summer's tournament if he opts for the Irish.

He added: "Trapattoni wants to build for the future. He's looking at young lads and he fits the bill.

"He would get his debut in the next few months, that's a fact, and be given a great opportunity."

Id disagree with Aldo here, I dont think he would get a debut in the coming months. Trap hasnt been the quickest to bring in young inexperienced lads, with perhaps the exception of Cunningham and surely if anyone deserves a try at RB its Coleman.

[Charlie Darwin]

Well you have to consider that the whole thing was fabricated to begin with. He wouldn't have a hope in hell of playing a game for us in the next year even if he was eligible, because a) he's not good enough and b) there are other more talented players who have been in squads. But as long as Aldo keeps coming up with stories linking Liverpool with Ireland the paycheques will keep rolling in.

[paul_oshea]

Aldo might just have been playing a game of cat and mouse there.

[tetsujin1979]

Looks more like some reporter told him Flanagan was eligible, and did he think that the defender would be a good addition to the squad

[theworm2345]

But as long as Aldo keeps coming up with stories linking Liverpool with Ireland the paycheques will keep rolling in.
As long as he's not singing thats OK with me.

[tricky_colour]

Nope. I'm using the latest databases, unedited. It says he was born in Liverpool and is eligible for both England and Ireland. He did wait until 2017 before claiming for us though, after previously playing with the English U21 side. Anyway, it would be interesting to know where they get their info from. It could be a matter of assuming things due to his name.

I wonder where they get their info from? I would have though they would go to someone like FIFA
but I expect they only hold in for the countries they are currently registered with.

[tricky_colour]

I know his father and uncles very well. I asked ages ago about qualification and they were very clear that he is not eligible. His nearest connection is great grandparent. Unless his mother has a closer connection that his father did not know about (ie one of her parents is Irish and he hadn't noticed - which seems highly unlikely), he is not qualified. I'll ask again today and report back.

So that is not actually definitive, they know about one side but not.
Also you are assuming that his mothers husband is the father :) (or whatever).

[tricky_colour]

Still no tweets on his account for almost a week now, despite posting almost daily before the story broke. Could be a perfectly reasonable explanation for that though, lost his login for example.