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harleyleeds
11/04/2011, 12:22 PM
Sure that beats me hands down; I was only at the game.

Ye were better, but far from "all over" us.


not wumming stu but ive had this before and please explain why your view is better than someone else who also saw the game . you compare your view to the person who wasnt there but he's quoting someone who was?

pineapple stu
11/04/2011, 12:38 PM
People can come up with statistics to prove anything, harley. Forty percent of all people know that.

harleyleeds
11/04/2011, 12:42 PM
ok what im trying to say is ive been told about a match by my friends who were there and then when i use that info ive been told "you wern't there so you dont know" but again why is your/there view better than my friends . In other words the "you wern't there " comment seems at the very least a cop out.

pineapple stu
11/04/2011, 12:54 PM
He was watching match updates, it seems, which is different. Statistics can be very misleading, particularly when selectively quoted (e.g. not noting that our keeper had, I think, one serious save to make all the first half). So that's why I'm happy to suggest that forming an opinion from watching a game is more reliable than forming an opinion based on a match tracker.

And one of those sources, the extratime (http://www.extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/100/2011/12536/1/) one, gives five first-half Bohs-related updates, one of which is a hopeful long-range shot and another of which is a corner which was cleared. Half way through the half, it mentions that the game was "very quiet". It does later say that Bohs will be wondering how they're not in front, but that seems to relate back to one particularly good chance they had. Hardly "all over" us.

harleyleeds
11/04/2011, 12:58 PM
fair enough cheers.

marinobohs
11/04/2011, 1:16 PM
He was watching match updates, it seems, which is different. Statistics can be very misleading, particularly when selectively quoted (e.g. not noting that our keeper had, I think, one serious save to make all the first half). So that's why I'm happy to suggest that forming an opinion from watching a game is more reliable than forming an opinion based on a match tracker.

And one of those sources, the extratime (http://www.extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/100/2011/12536/1/) one, gives five first-half Bohs-related updates, one of which is a hopeful long-range shot and another of which is a corner which was cleared. Half way through the half, it mentions that the game was "very quiet". It does later say that Bohs will be wondering how they're not in front, but that seems to relate back to one particularly good chance they had. Hardly "all over" us.

Thought we were comfortable enough once first goal went in as UCD never looked like scoring (except for one effort right at the end). Poor game played by two fairly average teams. Bohs still very much a work in progress. UCD could have a serious problem if this was a reflection of their scoring prowess (or lack of).

pineapple stu
11/04/2011, 1:23 PM
Agree fully with that.

SkStu
11/04/2011, 2:25 PM
:( i wasnt trying to say that i knew more about the game than you PS - i was simply addressing the point you made in your first post that i was going purely off biased posts on the Bohs mb. I wasnt. I was going on the update service on the two other websites.

Also, though it was mentioned later on ET, the goal we scored was in the first half so there is another "highlight" from the first half. Also, "all over them" is a very off the cuff type of remark, one i regret using and not one id expect to be held forensically accountable for!! Another point to note, you dont have to have many clear-cut chances to be considered "all over" the other team, sometimes possession or territory is an equal measure. We had 7 corners in the first half alone. Thats quite a lot. It suggests some sort of superiority, though maybe we werent "all over" UCD.

Anyway, theres an account of the game here that suggests a number of times that it was "comfortable" for Bohs... whatever that means.
http://www.extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/12536/2/

Rasputin
11/04/2011, 2:27 PM
Also, "all over them" is a very off the cuff type of remark, one i regret using and not one id expect to be held forensically accountable for!!
You do realise this is foot.ie?
And you are talking to PineappleStu?

pineapple stu
11/04/2011, 2:32 PM
It suggests some sort of superiority, though maybe we werent "all over" UCD.
That's grand; we're in agreement so.

marinobohs
11/04/2011, 2:34 PM
:( i wasnt trying to say that i knew more about the game than you PS - i was simply addressing the point you made in your first post that i was going purely off biased posts on the Bohs mb. I wasnt. I was going on the update service on the two other websites.

Also, though it was mentioned later on ET, the goal we scored was in the first half so there is another "highlight" from the first half. Also, "all over them" is a very off the cuff type of remark, one i regret using and not one id expect to be held forensically accountable for!! Another point to note, you dont have to have many clear-cut chances to be considered "all over" the other team, sometimes possession or territory is an equal measure. We had 7 corners in the first half alone. Thats quite a lot. It suggests some sort of superiority, though maybe we werent "all over" UCD.

Anyway, theres an account of the game here that suggests a number of times that it was "comfortable" for Bohs... whatever that means.
http://www.extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/12536/2/

We got three points and a clean sheet from what is traditionally a difficult* fixture for us. Thats prety much all that matters and the rest is just each individuals opinion (whatever it is based on). To be honest lad's the fare on display on friday was not worth getting too worked up about either way.
The pitch no help to either side and I would say (not having seen previous games) that it is a major hindeance to UCD given that they play a passing game. Expect their results (at home) to improve when the rugger buggers season finishes but as said earlier they look terrible shot shy.



* by "difficult" I mean "difficult to win"

SkStu
11/04/2011, 2:54 PM
That's grand; we're in agreement so.

yes; we're agreeing to disagree... ;)


And you are talking to PineappleStu?

life is too short, man.

maksimir
11/04/2011, 4:34 PM
Hello lads new poster here. I followed that link given out and was pretty stunned when the fella said it as ndo was brought on. To say it is out of order and for his mate to not pull him up on it is also bang out of order.

marinobohs
12/04/2011, 1:42 PM
Hello lads new poster here. I followed that link given out and was pretty stunned when the fella said it as ndo was brought on. To say it is out of order and for his mate to not pull him up on it is also bang out of order.

You have to be VERY carefull about these things Maksimir as LOI has a long history of "doctored" evidence, especially where rasism issues are concerned :rolleyes:.