View Full Version : Pat Fenlon resigning from Bohs?
Jicked
26/03/2011, 12:22 AM
That's right, there’s a question mark in the headline, and you know what that means: It’s time to prognosticate! We don’t have the answers to these questions, but we’ve got the next best thing: wild speculation!
All over twitter and the Bohs forum that Pat has walked from Bohs, I presume we'll hear in the next day or so if true or not. Potentially this is great news for Bohs and also the league in general to be done with the mindset that Pat brings. Some on twitter speculating that he's taking a coaching job with Celtic, if true that shed new light on Bohs bizarre trip to Scotland this week.
Acornvilla
26/03/2011, 12:41 AM
Now Roddy shall apply for the job and try and remind the bohs faithful of what a messiah he is
A N Mouse
26/03/2011, 12:44 AM
All over twitter and the Bohs forum that Pat has walked from Bohs, I presume we'll hear in the next day or so if true or not. Potentially this is great news for Bohs and also the league in general to be done with the mindset that Pat bringsSome on twitter speculating that he's taking a coaching job with Celtic, if true that shed new light on Bohs bizarre trip to Scotland this week.
SRSLY?
The 'best team in the league' make the rat's teams look like bastions of expansive attacking play.
And we're, oh, so fond of him in these parts :p
I'm just waiting for the headlines 'Tradegy in Tallaght' - thousands dead, doctors blame boredom!
Ezeikial
26/03/2011, 12:48 AM
This would be great news for Bohs if it is true. A substantial saving on wages costs for a manager who is contracted to 2013.
Jicked
26/03/2011, 1:06 AM
SRSLY?
The 'best team in the league' make the rat's teams look like bastions of expansive attacking play.
And we're, oh, so fond of him in these parts :p
I'm just waiting for the headlines 'Tradegy in Tallaght' - thousands dead, doctors blame boredom!
I'm not talking about the apparent expanisve football Pat does or doesn't play, I'm talking about his mindset re ridiculously unsustainable wages paid to players (and himself). Bohs fans and their board seem to have confused the importance of the two as well.
And for what it's worth, there's no need to doubt the 'best team in the league' moniker, we are.
bullit
26/03/2011, 2:30 AM
All over twitter and the Bohs forum that Pat has walked from Bohs, I presume we'll hear in the next day or so if true or not. Potentially this is great news for Bohs and also the league in general to be done with the mindset that Pat brings. Some on twitter speculating that he's taking a coaching job with Celtic, if true that shed new light on Bohs bizarre trip to Scotland this week.
Links ? Twitter or otherwise.
Galway we salute you.
total hoofball
26/03/2011, 2:44 AM
This would be great news for Bohs if it is true. A substantial saving on wages costs for a manager who is contracted to 2013.
Drop in the ocean with Zurich lurking around the corner in 2012, the year of the Bohs apocalypse
Mr Maroon
26/03/2011, 3:42 AM
I hope he stays. :)
ill probably be crucified in some quarters for this but id be delighted if this is true.
I hope he stays. :)
I feel strongly that he should stay too. Only Farrelly has done greater things with Bohs....
Rasputin
26/03/2011, 9:48 AM
I never understood the hostility to Pat.
In my eyes he is the best manager in the league.
Is he not the second most successfull manager in LOI history?
horton
26/03/2011, 10:23 AM
All Bohs needs now is a certain few board members to go aswell if they are to survive another season! Any word on Roddy resigning from Mons yet?
passerrby
26/03/2011, 10:43 AM
All Bohs needs now is a certain few board members to go aswell if they are to survive another season! Any word on Roddy resigning from Mons yet?
was just about to say of course not but decided to check the mons website first . well you never know
Jicked
26/03/2011, 11:29 AM
I never understood the hostility to Pat.
In my eyes he is the best manager in the league.
Is he not the second most successfull manager in LOI history?
My hostility comes from his attitude to spending. He knows Bohs are f*cked financially, but keeps going back making new budgetary demands and wanting to sign players he knows he can't afford and which he knows threatens the long term future of Bohs. He does this because he wants to be in charge of as good a team as possible to make himself look good. He even took Bohs on a pointless trip to Scotland on Monday, lost one striker to injury and apparently played another one last night even though he looked injured, all presumably so he could rub shoulders with SPL types. Shock horror if he ends up signing for Celtic now.
It's great news for Bohs if he leaves, and suggests that they might finally start to address their spending issues, though that will depend on how long the deals some of their players Fenlon signed this off-season.
Dodge
26/03/2011, 11:36 AM
Every manager wants the best available budget. It's not their job to say no if the money is offered
Nutsy's a decent bloke, and I've yet to hear a single player who's played under him to have a pop.
I can understand SkStu's point of view, but the problems in Bohs aren't rooted in Pat Fenlon
Rasputin
26/03/2011, 11:46 AM
My hostility comes from his attitude to spending. He knows Bohs are f*cked financially, but keeps going back making new budgetary demands and wanting to sign players he knows he can't afford and which he knows threatens the long term future of Bohs.
The majority of managers attempt to squeeze as much money as they can for the squad.
As Dodge rightly pointed it is not his job to set the budget, that fault lies with the board but certainly not Pat Fenlon.
He does this because he wants to be in charge of as good a team as possible to make himself look good.
Pat Fenlon wants success, shock and horror.
A man that has won as much as he has of course constantly strives for success, he is a very driven man from what I can make out.
He even took Bohs on a pointless trip to Scotland on Monday, lost one striker to injury and apparently played another one last night even though he looked injured, all presumably so he could rub shoulders with SPL types. Shock horror if he ends up signing for Celtic now.
Empty speculation.
Even on the Bohs forum they dont seem to know why or whos decision it was to bring Bohs to scotland.
To land that at Pat Fenlons feet holds about as much currency as those 'financial investigations' into our finances.
You do remember those 'financial investigations' that your 'inside sources' uncovered on the always ultra forum?
It's great news for Bohs if he leaves, and suggests that they might finally start to address their spending issues, though that will depend on how long the deals some of their players Fenlon signed this off-season.
Yes Bohs financial problems are the cause of Pat Fenlon, not boards signing off on budgets they could not afford.
Why do some people find it so difficult to comprehend its not Pat Fenlon that sets the budget of what ever club he manages?
Ezeikial
26/03/2011, 11:47 AM
but the problems in Bohs aren't rooted in Pat Fenlon
I agree with you Dodge, up to a point.
The problems in Bohs are partially to do with successive boards inability to face up his demands. Fenlon is certainly part of the problem
Jicked
26/03/2011, 11:54 AM
Every manager wants the best available budget. It's not their job to say no if the money is offered
Nutsy's a decent bloke, and I've yet to hear a single player who's played under him to have a pop.
I can understand SkStu's point of view, but the problems in Bohs aren't rooted in Pat Fenlon
But when he's doing something that quite clearly, he knows this remember, is destroying the club he works for, can he not blame him the umpteenth time he goes back and looks for money to sign Killian Brennan?
HulaHoop
26/03/2011, 11:55 AM
You do remember those 'financial investigations' that your 'inside sources' uncovered on the always ultra forum?
Would they be the same allegations that actually first appeared on the Bohs forum?
Rasputin
26/03/2011, 12:17 PM
Funny how that only came to light with Shams fans when their claims were shown to be utter ****e.
Before that it was all 'everyone knows' and 'the inside sources' etc.
But to be fair I do really enjoy watching a good pass the book.
sligoman
26/03/2011, 12:28 PM
But to be fair I do really enjoy watching a good pass the book.'System to transfer responsibility for a brokerage firm's trading account from one office to another around the world as trading ends in one place and begins in another.' http://www.answers.com/topic/pass-the-book#ixzz1HhwWwtDC
How does that relate here? :confused: Or did you mean pass the buck? Burn :D
poster
26/03/2011, 12:46 PM
Classic, classic Sligoman.
:fighter2:
Funny how that only came to light with Shams fans when their claims were shown to be utter ****e.
Even funnier how you or one of your fellow bitters always have to stick your noses into any comment made by a Rovers fan on here.
poster
26/03/2011, 1:27 PM
Guuuuuuuuu on
avvenalaf
26/03/2011, 1:33 PM
What's actually happening here is that Michael O'Neill is moving back to work with Celtic and Pat Fenlon is leaving Bohs to take over at Pram Springs, Tallaghaghtfornia. Boom, boom.
Rasputin
26/03/2011, 1:40 PM
Even funnier how you or one of your fellow bitters always have to stick your noses into any comment made by a Rovers fan on here.
This is a public football forum not a private conversation, there is a difference.
Just as an aside, a shams fan was the first to quote me also, ok?
Strawberry
26/03/2011, 1:40 PM
Even funnier how you or one of your fellow bitters always have to stick your noses into any comment made by a Rovers fan on here.
How dare he comment on untrue rumors concerning the club that he and his fellow betters support
Nutsy's a decent bloke, and I've yet to hear a single player who's played under him to have a pop.
He's always come across as a decent bloke to me whenever he's been at Rovers games in the past as a fan, having a bit of banter etc with people. One thing I can't understand about the whole Bohs thing and what's gone on behind the scenes over the last few months is that in all the half hearted grumblings from some Bohs fans, all they had to do was call an EGM to get certain people running the club out. But as we know Bohs refuse to go down the route most clubs in the league has had to do, ie start from scratch again and build on that.
outspoken
26/03/2011, 2:13 PM
I cant understand why Fenlon is thinking of walking away (apart from financial picture of course) apart from last nights game they have made a good start to the season and are only 3 points of top spot.
We all knew they wouldnt be as strong as last season but for a club that had such bad financial troubles to have a team with the likes of Anto Flood in it aint bad going so I'd stay if i was Pat Fenlon.
This is a public football forum not a private conversation, there is a difference.
Just as an aside, a shams fan was the first to quote me also, ok?
Not to worry. To be fair if I were you lot I'd be jealous of us as well.
poster
26/03/2011, 2:17 PM
Gracious Shamrock's as usual.
MagicMon
26/03/2011, 2:17 PM
So has there been any statements about Fenlon resigning or is it still based on twitter rumours?
outspoken
26/03/2011, 2:22 PM
So has there been any statements about Fenlon resigning or is it still based on twitter rumours?
Only rumors at the moment I think his interview on Extratime seems to be the main fuel in the fire.
gustavo
26/03/2011, 2:24 PM
Not to worry. To be fair if I were you lot I'd be jealous of us as well.
Playing the jealousy card already? Poor form!
A bird in the hand is better than two in a photograph
look lads, all the Rovers-Rovers fighting here, Dodge raises a good point but Ezeikials reply is just as accurate. Fenlon is not at fault for our woes, he was doing his job as a manager and, yes, in a manner that would benefit him and his reputation. I dont have a problem with that. Thats his remit and his prerogative. Fenlon, at worst, is a contributing factor to whats transpired down Dalymount. It is the board and the board alone that must shoulder the blame for the mess that we are in.
Fenlon is on big money - the wrong sort of money for Bohs to be paying (now or at anytime in honesty). For that expense to be gone is a good thing - it frees up some money to bring in some top class players who will genuinely challenge Rovers for the title and that is very important to me.
Joking aside - Fenlon is on big money, was looking for a huge budget again and from that respect we are better off without him. From a footballing point of view, i dont see it as a major loss either. His management/tactics/signings last season were erratic and ineffective. If true, this is a good thing.
it frees up some money to bring in some top class players who will genuinely challenge Rovers for the title and that is very important to me.
And there in a nutshell is what's wrong at Bohs and what'll always be wrong at Bohs. Instead of stabilising your club you want to get rid of Fenlon's wages, not to ensure you have a club in the future, but to bring in players who'll be on big money. It's not only your board who have themselves to blame.
HulaHoop
26/03/2011, 2:47 PM
And there in a nutshell is what's wrong at Bohs and what'll always be wrong at Bohs. Instead of stabilising your club you want to get rid of Fenlon's wages, not to ensure you have a club in the future, but to bring in players who'll be on big money. It's not only your board who have themselves to blame.
He was joking hoopy but there are some at Bohs with that attitude.
And there in a nutshell is what's wrong at Bohs and what'll always be wrong at Bohs. Instead of stabilising your club you want to get rid of Fenlon's wages, not to ensure you have a club in the future, but to bring in players who'll be on big money. It's not only your board who have themselves to blame.
oh dear... couple of sandwiches short i reckon.
He was joking hoopy but there are some at Bohs with that attitude.
really? who?
HulaHoop
26/03/2011, 2:51 PM
really? who?
Denis Maher
would you believe me if i said that my post was about to contain the words "Apart from Denis Maher"?
Look, i got the point you were making - and it was a nice dig - but Maher will be gone by the time the transfer window reopens. There will be no additions to the Bohs payroll this season.
Rasputin
26/03/2011, 3:25 PM
And there in a nutshell is what's wrong at Bohs and what'll always be wrong at Bohs. Instead of stabilising your club you want to get rid of Fenlon's wages, not to ensure you have a club in the future, but to bring in players who'll be on big money. It's not only your board who have themselves to blame.
God bless the internet, endless entertainment.
bluewhitearmy
26/03/2011, 4:36 PM
look lads, all the Rovers-Rovers fighting here, Dodge raises a good point but Ezeikials reply is just as accurate. Fenlon is not at fault for our woes, he was doing his job as a manager and, yes, in a manner that would benefit him and his reputation. I dont have a problem with that. Thats his remit and his prerogative. Fenlon, at worst, is a contributing factor to whats transpired down Dalymount. It is the board and the board alone that must shoulder the blame for the mess that we are in.
Fenlon is on big money - the wrong sort of money for Bohs to be paying (now or at anytime in honesty). For that expense to be gone is a good thing - it frees up some money to bring in some top class players who will genuinely challenge Rovers for the title and that is very important to me.
Joking aside - Fenlon is on big money, was looking for a huge budget again and from that respect we are better off without him. From a footballing point of view, i dont see it as a major loss either. His management/tactics/signings last season were erratic and ineffective. If true, this is a good thing.
In fairness lads how were ya supposed to know he was joking.
Jicked
26/03/2011, 5:14 PM
would you believe me if i said that my post was about to contain the words "Apart from Denis Maher"?
Look, i got the point you were making - and it was a nice dig - but Maher will be gone by the time the transfer window reopens. There will be no additions to the Bohs payroll this season.
Do you think Maher will actually be gone this time, is there serious support against him this time. Really was a big opportunity missed for Bohs not heaving against the board (and Fenlon) at the end of last season.
Ezeikial
26/03/2011, 5:23 PM
There some really funny passages in the Star today from Cathal Dervan :
"The financial troubles that have plagued the club for the last 12 months have finally forced Fenlon's hand."
"The club only secured a Premier Division licence a week before the start of the season and Fenlon has operated on a budget of just €250,000"
so clearly Fenlon has been feeding him those lines. What scares me most is that this seems like an attempt at leverage from Fenlon.
Jicked, man, i dont know if he will go for sure but it seems like the balance in the membership as a whole (not just the internet folk) is tipping the right way. He better be gone.
oh dear... couple of sandwiches short i reckon.
Oh sorry...I was ..eh..joking of course:beer:
Terry-Lander
26/03/2011, 7:13 PM
I hope Fenlon stays...........we need the points
Jofspring
26/03/2011, 7:22 PM
There some really funny passages in the Star today from Cathal Dervan :
"The financial troubles that have plagued the club for the last 12 months have finally forced Fenlon's hand."
"The club only secured a Premier Division licence a week before the start of the season and Fenlon has operated on a budget of just €250,000"
Wasn't this followed by something like "despite the millions fenlon has at his disposal in the past". Poor old Pat eh :rolleyes:
From what I can see the man is a mug. He can win the league with all the money in the world and when the going gets anyway tough he is gone. If I see in the papers how little money he has to spend or how he has scraped together a make shift squad one more time I think I will actually get physically sick. Christ he has a better team than the majority of the league and the whole first division and Bohs have only lost one game. Grow up Pat for feck sake.
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