Jamaica Game

[finlma]

Is anybody going to this? After the abissmal preformance against Nigeria and the poor attendance I can't see there being more than 4000 at this game. The only thing I'm looking forward to is seeing McGeady get a run.

[only1kilbane]

cant see many going to this at all. The prices of tickets were a real put off. I payed 25 quid for saturdays ticket which is about 40euro. Whereas i payed 40euro to see brazil and czech game !

Was a real rip off pitch was a disgrace players were nackered recipe for disaster all the way.

though i still have payed ntl 10euro for the game on wednesday.

[Condex]

Agreed,

The promoters are staring at a loss, just what they deserve for there efforts(or lack of effort)
The £5 for that excuse of a programe was a big waste of money.

Anyway I'm going to watch the match somewhere in Kilburn and go to a charity do in the Galtymore afterwards

[only1kilbane]

Was about to buy the programme on sat then saw 5 quid and was shocked . how the hell do they expect people to pay 25 quid and then another 5 for a crap programme. Must be the worst organised tournament in history and again the " new professional " fai moneygrabbers get involved .

[Condex]

I don't think you can blame the FAI for this one.

There is no reason why the organisers could not organise a tournament with good crowds and a good pitch. If they had right location, the right pricing and the right marketing there is no reason why it should not be a success.

Though I think they tried to play too many games, still a good chance to have a look at players, and from what we saw on Saturday we have very little in reserve.

[only1kilbane]

I just blame the fai on agreeing to this farce inthe first place. And Fran Rooneys comments of we still got payed shows what they are thinking about. Players safety or well being is deffo not top of there list again. Letting our lads play on one of the worst pitches i have ever seen shows that they are still all about money

[sylvo]

Was talking to some of my Jamaican workmate's and they said their not going to it tomorrow, it could even be worse then saturday for a poor crowd, they also said that the promoting of the tournament has been non exsistent from their side also, they also said they were'nt happy also about the high ticket price's. Someone who thought they were going to clean up on this is going to take a big hit in the pocket. As per usual the FAI and the term shamble's are mentioned in the same sentence.

[Plastic Paddy]

Well, guess who in their excitement at seeing their team in London rushed out and bought four tickets as soon as they went on sale...? :eek: :rolleyes:

And guess who now has two spares? Anyone want 'em?

:D PP

[Pat O' Banton]

Best of luck in getting rid of them but I wouldn't be too optimistic. For those of us (un)fortunate to still be going to the game is there any interest in a meet up before hand, could do with a stiff drink before hand.

BTW Does anyone remember the panic on this board before the tickets went on sale. Oh for the gift of seeing into the future.

[eirebhoy]

The FAI website say this is the probable team:

Republic of Ireland (probable): Kenny; Maybury, Doherty, O’Brien, O’Shea; Rowlands, Douglas, Kinsella, Reid; Lee, Morrison.

You'd get a better team than that from the U-21's TBH.

[tiktok]

Republic of Ireland (probable): Kenny; Maybury, Doherty, O’Brien, O’Shea; Rowlands, Douglas, Kinsella, Reid; Lee, Morrison.

at least we'll get to have a look at a few of the younger lads for ninety minutes

[finlma]

The FAI website say this is the probable team:

Republic of Ireland (probable): Kenny; Maybury, Doherty, O’Brien, O’Shea; Rowlands, Douglas, Kinsella, Reid; Lee, Morrison.

You'd get a better team than that from the U-21's TBH.

I think its a shame if McGeady doesn't start. No harm in starting him anyway. Seems he was only brought along to stop Scotland getting their hands on him.

I don't think I'll have time for a meet up Pat (won't be finished work till 6:30)but we might be the only 2 in the stadium so I'll shot across for a half time bevy.

[Plastic Paddy]

Best of luck in getting rid of them but I wouldn't be too optimistic. For those of us (un)fortunate to still be going to the game is there any interest in a meet up before hand, could do with a stiff drink before hand.

BTW Does anyone remember the panic on this board before the tickets went on sale. Oh for the gift of seeing into the future.

A few of us are meeting at the Rose of Denmark on Woolwich Road at 6.30-ish. Liam88's yer man - he'll be wearing a Cobh top and buying everyone the first round... ;)

:D PP

[eirebhoy]

Micky Doyle deserves a game ahead of Douglas. Douglas has been average in the premiership this season while Doyle has been playing some great football. The squad is actually smaller than I first thought so I can't argue with the rest.

[tiktok]

Seems he was only brought along to stop Scotland getting their hands on him.

if he doesn't play, Scotland can still get their hands on him, I think we'll see his debut tomorrow, probably for clinton, who's likely to start against the Dutch

[liam88]

A few of us are meeting at the Rose of Denmark on Woolwich Road at 6.30-ish. Liam88's yer man - he'll be wearing a Cobh top and buying everyone the first round... ;)

:D PP

Seriously PP I woudln't go spreading this around :rolleyes: !
I spent a fair chunk of allowance on a new 4 provinces flag that hasn't even arrived yet! and I went to see the premier of the new Harry Potter movie yesterday (at our rip-off cinema :) ).
i'll see you good for a Guiness though but I ain't getting the round in ;)

[liam88]

[QUOTE=Pat O' Banton] For those of us (un)fortunate to still be going to the gameQUOTE]

Wouldn't say that!
I'm really looking fwd to my first Ireland match and our crowds cab always put up one heck of an atmosphere!

[Plastic Paddy]

Seriously PP I woudln't go spreading this around :rolleyes: !
I spent a fair chunk of allowance on a new 4 provinces flag that hasn't even arrived yet! and I went to see the premier of the new Harry Potter movie yesterday (at our rip-off cinema).
i'll see you good for a Guiness though but I ain't getting the round in

:D :D

You're off the hook...

;) PP

[1MickCollins]

Was about to buy the programme on sat then saw 5 quid and was shocked . how the hell do they expect people to pay 25 quid and then another 5 for a crap programme. Must be the worst organised tournament in history and again the " new professional " fai moneygrabbers get involved .

It is an invitational tournament so the FAI has limited control, on the face of it London location and 2 decent teams plus a wad of cash sounded OK.

However they should have played the Romania game earlier in the week, if they had done that the Nigeria game wouldn't have been such a farce.

[Beavis]

Micky Doyle deserves a game ahead of Douglas. Douglas has been average in the premiership this season while Doyle has been playing some great football. The squad is actually smaller than I first thought so I can't argue with the rest.
Douglas looked to have a bit about him when he came on on Saturday.I'd like to see him make a start.

[concanta]

Surely McGeady has to get some part of the action .....I don't care what people say he should be on the team instead of that muppett Lee and possibly even Morrison

[tiktok]

Surely McGeady has to get some part of the action .....I don't care what people say he should be on the team instead of that muppett Lee and possibly even Morrison

i hope to see him at some stage this evening too, i think it's a little premature to say that he should be on the team ahead of Lee and Morrsion though. He's played less than an hour of senior football in his career. I hope all the hype is true, but there's absolutely no evidence thus far that he can compete at senior international level.

[only1kilbane]

Well said to say he should be in instead of that muppet lee and morrison is a stupid comment. The lad has scored one goal for celtic and suddenly hes better than guys playing week in week out in 1st div and premier. Fair enough he should get a run but we seem to get over excited the minute any irish player plays more than five minutes in a first team.

[concanta]

I know its not definite that McGeady will fulfill his potential. What has Lee ever done? Score a few goals for cardiff and Rotherham, ok maybe having instead of morrison is a bit premature but lee has never showed anything - not even the potential to be a good player

[Slash/ED]

What's the point in starting Kinsella? I thought this was about giving the youngsters/players with futures a chance. Kinsella is neither. We'd learn far more starting Doyle, and also McGeady should have started too. I'm glad I decided not to waste my money ordering either of these matches on ppv anyway.

[eirebhoy]

What's the point in starting Kinsella? I thought this was about giving the youngsters/players with futures a chance. Kinsella is neither. We'd learn far more starting Doyle, and also McGeady should have started too. I'm glad I decided not to waste my money ordering either of these matches on ppv anyway.
As much as we all know Kinsella has no future with Ireland, he is the only player in from the current choice of players with more than 25 caps and older than 25 years of age.

[Slash/ED]

As much as we all know Kinsella has no future with Ireland, he is the only player in from the current choice of players with more than 25 caps and older than 25 years of age.

I thought these friendlys were about giving the people without the experience a chance to play for Ireland so when the proper matches come around they're proper options. There's no point whatsoever playing a has been in a young players spot, it achieves nothing and the youngsters are probably better players anyway.

[eirebhoy]

I thought these friendlys were about giving the people without the experience a chance to play for Ireland so when the proper matches come around they're proper options. There's no point whatsoever playing a has been in a young players spot, it achieves nothing and the youngsters are probably better players anyway.
We need an experienced captain on the pitch otherwise we'd fall apart. Kinsella may not be a superb player but having one (not 8 like the Swizz match) experienced player in the team can make all the difference. Anyway, he's a better player than Douglas from what I've seen of both anyway.

[Slash/ED]

But it's a friendly, it's about trying new players not about winning. And it's only bleedin' Jamacia anyway!

There's not much use in having an experienced player when the experienced player, well, is not much use.

[only1kilbane]

Agreed. Would far rather see Michael Doyle from Coventry in the centre given a go. Would do a lot more giving him 90 minutes and losing than giving kinsella 90 minutes and losing ( and sure we might even win ). Hopefully Mc Geady will come on for at least a half will be good to see him get a run . Sean thornton will hopefully make the step up soon if he has a good start to season for sunderland and now that hopefully stephen elliot will be getting regular football he will give clinton a run for his money

[Slash/ED]

What time is kick off btw? and is it being covered by RTE MW?

[eirebhoy]

----------------------------------Kenny--------------------------

--------Maybury-----------O'Brian-----------Doc---------O'Shea-----------


---------Barrett--------Kinsella----------A.Quinn---------A.Reid---------


--------------------Morrison---------------Lee--------------

Quinn? Barrett? Rowlands and Doyle have a lot more to prove.

[1MickCollins]

Barrett deserves a game, I am guessing he will bring Doyle and McGeady on for all of the second half ( will be disappointed if he doesn't ) and probably use Rowlands again. Decent selction, though why not play Clarke again at left full and O'Shea on the right?

[Slash/ED]

Barrett deserves a game

Based on what?

[pineapple stu]

if he doesn't play, Scotland can still get their hands on him, I think we'll see his debut tomorrow

Can't he play for Scotland even if he does play against Jamaica or Holland? I thought you were only committed to a country if you played a competitive game?

[tiktok]

You're right Stu, didn't Fashanu play a friendly for england before declaring for Nigeria?
Apologies for the confusion.

[pineapple stu]

1-0 Ireland - Graham Barrett with a deflected goal. Ireland fairly dominant and apparently much more lively than against Nigeria; Morrison's hit the bar and has missed another decent chance.

[adamcarr]

...And he missed a wide open goal! :rolleyes:

[macdermesser]

Is he on yet? Hope so .. I'd hate to read one of those trivia questions in 20 years time, where the legendary Scottish World Cup Golden boot striker nearly played for Ireland etc.

[Slash/ED]

No sign yet, Kerr should get the finger out and get him on, isn't this tournament all about players like him?

[pineapple stu]

He's on now...

[Slash/ED]

He got about 8 minutes, what's the point in that ffs? Should have been given a half at least.

[macdermesser]

Thanks for letting me know ... that puts that whole will he won't he debate to bed. Still 1-0 according to livescore.net

[1MickCollins]

Based on what?

Based on the fact that he is a very good player, he was unfortunate in that Eric Black didn't give him many games at Coventry last season to the dismay of many fans. He has potential and is a rel hard worker. I think that is 2 goals in 3 appearance now.

[1MickCollins]

No sign yet, Kerr should get the finger out and get him on, isn't this tournament all about players like him?

I think Kerr giving McGeady 8 minutes means

1) He can't play for Scotland now.
2) He isn't ready for the big time yet.
3) He avoided playing against Scotland U21 in Galway on the 26th.

[eirebhoy]

Barrett and Lee were the two best players for Ireland. Morrison worked very hard. Maybury is probably the lowest in confidence of all our players, he never goes forward and only touches the ball when needs be.

I think Lee could be the best partner for Keane. Keane always played his best football with Niall Quinn beside him and Lee is very similar to Quinn in every part of his game. Elliot would be my first choice to partner Keane for the future, even ahead of McGeady. McGeady is a player thats best suited to playing behind the front two.

BTW - Kerr was absolutely delighted with tonights win. I never seen him show so much emotion after a match. We really needed that win going into the Holland match.

[Plastic Paddy]

Kerr was absolutely delighted with tonights win. I never seen him show so much emotion after a match. We really needed that win going into the Holland match.

Well, f**k me sideways. Kerr should have expected nothing less. To be delighted with this win shows a distinct lack of ambition. Brian - prove me wrong.

Tonight? Great atmosphere, poor match. We deserve better performances, and don't anyone try to tell me otherwise.

:( PP

[dynamo kerry]

Well, f**k me sideways. Kerr should have expected nothing less. To be delighted with this win shows a distinct lack of ambition. Brian - prove me wrong.

Tonight? Great atmosphere, poor match. We deserve better performances, and don't anyone try to tell me otherwise.

:( PP
with the players we had out there? I think he had every reason to be delighted.
A half decent defence with a second string midfield and an unproven strikeforce

It will be interesting to see if maybury plays again at the weekend - would like to see him gain some confidence

are we holding off until after saturday to decide on who the successes of the series are

[eirebhoy]

Well, f**k me sideways. Kerr should have expected nothing less. To be delighted with this win shows a distinct lack of ambition. Brian - prove me wrong.
I think it was more relief than anything. Jamaica had better and more experienced individuals out there on the pitch but we were the better team on the night. Imagine if we lost tonight, the players would have been going into the Dutch match really low on confidence. High or low confidence we are odds on to lose on Saturday but to lose 3 in a row going into the qualifiers would be worrying.

Anyway, I hope thats the end of this Unity cup forever.

We know what the team will be for the Dutch match with the exception of 2 of the midfield spots. It will be the same team that played against Romania with O'Shea in for Maybury and both Keane and Miller need to be replaced. Who'll partner Holland and who'll play on the right? I'd say it will be Kinsella partnering Holland but I hope not. I'd like to see Rowlands get a start on the right.

[Peadar]

As per usual the FAI and the term shamble's are mentioned in the same sentence.

Chill out there bitter lemon.
The FAI treated us to 3 top class games of football against quality opposition in Lansdowne Road for €60
That alone has gone some way to easing the pain of failing to qualify for Euro 2004. A result against Holland would help further. You can't blame the FAI for the farce in Charlton.
This Unity Cup thing has been running since 2002 so the promoters, Optima Sports Management International, have no excuse for poor event management. The blame lies solely with them.