Sports Grants

[TonyD]

According to yesterdays Star, €50m in Sports grants allocated, not one penny to EL Clubs. Total joke/outrage. Sports mad Taoiseach my arse! It's about time the FAI made a stand for the league. They have a powerful weapon with the National team, time to use it more effectively I think.

[A face]

You need to get that into an email and sned it onto info@fai.ie

If they dont know what people are thinking then they cant do anything about it.

€50 million .... they are a disgrace to be honest. But then again ... the FAI and the more to the point ... the fans, by their inaction, convey a message that it is OK to carry on this way, so you cant really blame the powers that be.

It is only until the people who have an interest in the National League, i.e. the fans, let people know what they want that they can respond to it. This is unless Alan Hunter hasn't already let them know for us. He might have done seeing as he is our leader.

[Maz]

i read this too where does that leave us and others who have qualified for europe and were expecting that money?

[Dr.Nightdub]

Up the creek without a €625k paddle I reckon.

[Maz]

thats what i was afraid of! :(

[A face]

Up the creek without a €625k paddle I reckon.

Offering it in the first place will have done more damage than actually not getting it at all. It is a joke !!

[pete]

Is this the list? (http://www.arts-sport-tourism.gov.ie/grants/2004_sportsgrants.htm)

GAA GAA GAA...

[pete]

All the same i'm sure Kildare (Minister for Finance) & Kerry (Minister for Sport) will get far & beyond their fair share again as in recent years.

[A face]

Did many eL clubs apply? The list is for the Sports Capital Grant, which requires clubs to compile a pretty comprehensive report with the application. The local soccer team here applied a couple of years back and got a huge grant. If any club applied and didn't get it, they should look long and hard at themselves first. As for the Taoiseach, it's not really his department to read the reports and determine who merited funding, but all groups who applied would of course have lobbied their local representatives.


It almost sounds like you're defending them Conor :) .... point taken though ... if you're not in then you can't win i suppose. Is there anyway we can look at who actually applied ?

[Bald Student]

From what I can see none of the rugby provinces got a grant either but a lot of junior soccer clubs and amatueur rugby clubs did. The grants don't seem to be for professional teams. They are almost all local sports clubs or GAA clubs which I don't object to. I'd take issue if I were a taxpayer and found that my taxes were being used to pay a rival clubs wages.

[A face]

As if I would...

Who is I would ?? :)

[Troy.McClure]

not one penny to EL Clubs.

http://www.arts-sport-tourism.gov.ie/grants/2004_sportsgrants.htm

Home Farm Football Club €400,000

I could see Dublin City changing their name back just for this :p
I recon that Bald student has a point though, I didnt see any AIL rugby clubs there either.



Oh Ya, I found out where half of City's €600k went to


Dublin Cricket Clubs
Merrion Cricket Club €70,000
Irish Cricket Union €50,000
YMCA Cricket Club €38,000
North County Cricket Club €32,000
The Hills Cricket Club €25,000
Rush Cricket Club €25,000
Clontarf Cricket Club €20,000
Malahide Cricket Club €20,000
Phoenix Cricket Club €17,000
Pembroke Cricket Club €10,000
Railway Union Cricket Club €7,000
--------
€314,000

[Dodge]

Wa hey, my old school got 7K for a football pitch. Fair play to them...

In other news...

The FAI got 100K wonder what that was for?

[Sheridan]

Wa hey, my old school got 7K for a football pitch. Fair play to them...
Jesus, my local Junior side Ballymun United got 300k!

Another allocation that may be of relevance to the eL caught my eye - 245k for the Morton Stadium Management Committee. I have a feeling ourselves or Rovers will end up (back) there.

[LukeO]

It seems to me like the FAI are doing what they have done for decades; lead us up the garden path. :rolleyes:

Fran Rooney is a spoofer :mad:

Deboez Online - http://www.deboez.ipfox.com

[A face]

Fran Rooney is a spoofer :mad:


Tis a bit early for that just yet i think !!

[pete]

Interesting to view the big winners of the funds & also those marked as "disadvantaged areas" - apparently in Dublin Monkstown & Dundrum are in this category. Also seem to be few rural areas deemed disadvantaged.

[TonyD]

From what I can see none of the rugby provinces got a grant either but a lot of junior soccer clubs and amatueur rugby clubs did. The grants don't seem to be for professional teams. They are almost all local sports clubs or GAA clubs which I don't object to. I'd take issue if I were a taxpayer and found that my taxes were being used to pay a rival clubs wages.


a) Professional teams have got grants in the past.
b) The grants are for capital projects, there is no question of them being used to pay wages. :rolleyes:
You may not be a taxpayer Bald student, but I am, and I object to almost every sport, except the one I support, getting a leg up. :mad:
Latest reports in the papers suggest that the Department of Sport has a problem with how some previous grants have been used, but I still say they wouldn't have done this to any other sport. Maybe I'm paranoid, but the League of Ireland always seem to be the whipping boys (even allowing for self inflicted wounds, of which I admit there have been plenty.)

[Bald Student]

I don't agree. Soccer wasn't left out as a sport. The FAI got a grant as did a lot of junior and schoolboy clubs. Like soccer, none of the professional rugby sides got a grant. I think that it is perfectly correct that the junior and schoolboy clubs get grants from the taxpayer, where as the professional leagues are expected to stand on their own two feet.

[pete]

Heard also that O'Donoghue & McGreedys constituencys been getting some of the higher lottery sports grants of recent seasons. John O'Donoghues local GAA club got funsing in 5 of last 6 years.

:rolleyes:

[gufct]

by a number of well known clubs and the FAI's complicity in the handing out of grants without proper supervision.This could bring down the present regime in the FAI as they were implicated over monies paid out to certain clubs without prior approval.

[eoinh]

Todays Irish Times

Mosy of grant aid goes to GAA clubs and the kerry south constituency of sports minister O' Donoghue

Sports orgainisations in kerry, among them several rowing clubs, recieved almost €3 million in grant aid under the 2004 Sports Capital Programme announced earlier this month.
The bulk of the money went to GAA clubs and to Kerry South, the constituency of the Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism, Mr. O'Donoghue. A small number of clubs in the constituency of Kerry North got €1 million.
The county was also among the highest beneficiaries under the sports capital programme in 2003. Last year the grants were announced in July.
Among the recipients this year are the several orgainisations in the Ministers own local electoral ward, Killorglin, in which his brother, the sitting councillor, Mr. Paul O'Donoghue, and two other FF candidates are standing for election.
In that ward the Sneem Rowing club recieved €80,000, the Cahersiveen Rowing club €100,000 and the Over the Water rowing club near the ministers home town of Cahersiveen recieved €30,000, with Valentia Regatta committee also recieving €7,000.
Laune Rangers GGG club in Killorglin got €200,000 and the Kenamre Shamrocks GAA club got a similar amount, and the South Kerry Sports Centre got €250,000.
Several grants were awarded to GAA clubs across the constituency and there were substantial grants too to social, community and health clubs in Valentia, Cahersiveen and Kilorglin. Rowing clubs in Killarney also recieved money.
It emerged yesterday that the 106 memebr Killorglin rowing club, currently under construction, was pushed up the list of points needed to allow it to qualify for its first tranche of sports grants in late march 2002.
Some €550,000 grant aid for the club was announced for the club in a 16 month period.

[corkharps]

Liam Hayes wrote a piece about the GAA paying county managers in the region of €40k a year in under the table payments. No Income tax,published accounts must be false and seeminly this is only the tip of the iceberg.YET they still get millions in grants???????????????????????????????????????????? :confused:

[pete]

Although likely to affect some eL clubs probably be good idea to ensure clubs got tax clearance before awarding grants to them.