The next Ireland manager?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Not withstanding his advancing years and reservations over Trap's tactics, the next man I'd love to see given a go, based on all I've seen and read/heard about him and doing a fab job given their resources at Donny, is Sean O'Driscoll.


MO'N would also be up there, but liable to take another high-profile EPL job before drifting out to the relative wilderness of international football, I reckon.
Love to know also if someone like Pat Rice would be interested, though he's had it cushy at Arsenal for so long....

After that it's the likes of big Mick & his nemesis but neither would be a good choice, especially the latter!!

[Sullivinho]

Since Trap's substantial earnings are no secret, I wonder if there would be a few personalities of a similar calibre touting themselves come the time, wanting to get a piece of that action? Of course the sugar daddy behind it may well leave the building at the same time as his expensive beneficiary.


After that it's the likes of big Mick & his nemesis but neither would be a good choice, especially the latter!!

Agreed. There'd be a savage danger that he'd alienate/take a dislike to a crucial player. Trap vs. Reid and then some!

[DannyInvincible]

Would be difficult to ever see Roy Keane and the FAI working on the same side. In saying that, Keane was able to have a working relationship with Niall Quinn at Sunderland, who had been critical of him in Saipan. It would be quite a divisive appointment though, wouldn't it? I think it's a bit premature to be talking of the next Ireland manager anyway, although if we were to have someone in place other than Trap right now, my favoured candidate would be Martin O'Neill for fairly obvious reasons.

[gastric]

Martin O' Neill would be my choice. A proven track record at getting the best out of average squads of players and the direct style of play he advocates would suit the Irish team.

[Deckydee]

For me it has to be Neil Warnock

Worked miralces at Sheff Utd and Crystal Palarse. Not to even mention QPR

[tetsujin1979]

Brady to return as Tardelli's assistant?
Just putting it out there.

[Crosby87]

I'd like to see someone like Steve Coppell.

[rebelmusic]

I think, unfortunately, it's almost a given that Tardelli will be offered the job. The FAI have always liked the status quo, and wouldn't have to offer him the 2 mill since he doesn't have Trap's record.

Oddly, i'd actually like to see Brady there. Martin O Neill is obviously first choice, but i think he would prefer to do NI

[third policeman]

Got to be Owen Coyle or at a push Chris HUghton.

[Lenny82]

Brady to return as Tardelli's assistant?
Just putting it out there.

I've been saying that for a while now. Trap will see out his contract and step aside to let Tardelli take the reigns with Brady coming back in a more senior role, although, if Trap makes a balls of things and we fail to pick up 6 points against Macedonia, or worse still, fail to pick up 4 points, he and his backroom staff may well be shown the door!!!

[Sullivinho]

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[Razors left peg]

I know it wouldnt be a popular opinion but Id like to see Sam Allardyce, he has said he would fancy a go at international management at some stage I think he has done very well with getting the best out of players at his disposal

[Spudulika]

This seems like an awfully familiar type of refrain being sung by the Indo, especially since the owners have an axe to grind with Trap's paymaster. Who knows what will be done by the FAI, having a punt on the next Pope would be a safer bet.

[seanfhear]

Alex Ferguson and Mourinho as joint assisitants to either Stan or the Don Givens;)

[TrapAPony]

Steve Coppell for me.

[rebelmusic]

I always wondered if Fergie would do a swansong with the irish team, although i suppose it'll more likely be scotland.

[Predator]

Give it to Dunphy.

[elroy]

MON or Steve Coppell would be the best of the lot outlined above. Coppell the only realistic replacement if Trap is to go after this campaign.

With the two above exceptions, it just shows the calibre we can expect to be attracting when Trap goes, a timely reminder for those calling for Traps head not that long ago. We have a real World Class manager in charge of our team at the moment.

[IsMiseSean]

Martin O'Neill but I doubt He'd go into International management yet. Steve Coppell would be another good option.

NOT Sam Allardyce... I think I'd rather see O'Leary, Venables or even Nigel Worthington in charge!

[tetsujin1979]

I think Martin O'Neill would last as long as it took for the next Premiership position to become available. We'd be in a similar situation to Scotland under McLeish (left to take over Birmingham in the Championship) and Walter Smith (left to take over a struggling Rangers side)

[ArdeeBhoy]

It won't be MO'N and as a Celtic fan, ultimately it has to be said that his teams, whilst successful didn't play the greatest football. Realistically he'd be looking for a big EPL job, though linked with a lucrative move to Oman and a bigger payday than even they could manage?

Hughton & Coyle would be both good choices but possibly would be looking for a bigger stage in the club game first?

Tardelli I can see reluctantly (as Trap 'Light' with possibly equally dull tactics?), but Brady would be a waste of time;he's too nice. Which is why he never made it as a club manager. Even Pat Rice would make more sense.

Coppell claims he's retired from football, whilst Allardyce, thanks but no.
He's an idiot who does make MO'N look like a genius. We have plenty of our own like that already!

[Crosby87]

Coppell claims he's retired from football, whilst Allardyce, thanks but no.

Cops has said he is burnt out but after the likes of Palace and Reading and what not, always with clubs worrying about the money all the time who wouldn't be? He has also had depression issues so he will fit right in. But seriously, He was a tireless worker as a player and what is better than managing Ireland to get the blood flowing? Literally every goal means so much. Also in his spare time HE WOULD BE IN ENGLAND WATCHING OUR PLAYERS IN PERSON. And that my friends, is no small thing.
Stevie Coppell for next manager I say.

[EalingGreen]

I think Martin O'Neill would last as long as it took for the next Premiership position to become available. We'd be in a similar situation to Scotland under McLeish (left to take over Birmingham in the Championship) and Walter Smith (left to take over a struggling Rangers side)It seems he's not even prepared to wait that long - according to the Mirror and the D.Mail, he's all set to join Saudi club Al-Hilal, on a 2 year contract worth £4.5m, tax free.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Martin-O-Neill-will-become-manager-of-Saudi-club-Al-Hilal-but-needs-sort-out-contract-issues-with-Aston-Villa-first-article614071.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1323823/Martin-ONeill-set-charge-Saudi-Al-Hilal.html

Can't see the attraction, myself...

[ArdeeBhoy]

Of the rag that's The Daily Mail, no.

Though MO'N could then afford to take any other job that came his way....

[bennocelt]

Tardelli I can see reluctantly (as Trap 'Light' with possibly equally dull tactics?), but Brady would be a waste of time;he's too nice. Which is why he never made it as a club manager. Even Pat Rice would make more sense.
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Just that, not the rubbish tactics or an inability to get his players do play anything resembling decent football:rolleyes:

[Wolfie]

If the last search thought us anything, its that anyone in the frame that was remotely suitable - didn't want the job.

We were actually blessed to get Trapp at the end of that process.

Many of us identified the need for informal approaches to be made to Managers we were interested in, even it means Trapp may well be still in the job when approaches are made.

[Scooby Doo]

What's the likelihood of Trap staying on to the 2014 WC, do people reckon. I remember him saying something along the lines of it was his 'dream' to take Ireland to Brazil. I've heard nothing of the sort since.
Personally, right now I'd be delighted about that. I remember the protracted and agonising wait for a manager after the holocaust that was Staunton's tenure, with jokers like Venebles, Houllier and even Troussier being tipped. We could only have dreamed of a manager like Trap back then. I even recall Paul Jewel being named in some quarters as the outstanding candidate before he ruled himself out. I dread the day when we go back to all that craic.
Although if I did have to suggest a name, it would be Chris Hughton.

[Charlie Darwin]

England's the only international job O'Neill would be interested in. Coppell has retired as far as I know (lost his passion he says) and Ireland's unlikely to set his heart racing.

[Adrock]

Hughton's the obvious ideal choice if Trap's heart can't take any more of the inevitable agonising tension that comes with watching our national team but cant see him being interested while he's doing well with newcastle, fact is he's got a higher status job with a big premiership club. How about that fella who's managing Celtic now? I'm sure he's be up for it!

[Scooby Doo]

Hughton's the obvious ideal choice if Trap's heart can't take any more of the inevitable agonising tension that comes with watching our national team but cant see him being interested while he's doing well with newcastle, fact is he's got a higher status job with a big premiership club. How about that fella who's managing Celtic now? I'm sure he's be up for it!
Neil Lennon for Ireland!!!?? :bulgy:
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Back! Back I say!!!

[Spudulika]

[QUOTE=EalingGreen;1416891]It seems he's not even prepared to wait that long - according to the Mirror and the D.Mail, he's all set to join Saudi club Al-Hilal, on a 2 year contract worth £4.5m, tax free.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Martin-O-Neill-will-become-manager-of-Saudi-club-Al-Hilal-but-needs-sort-out-contract-issues-with-Aston-Villa-first-article614071.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1323823/Martin-ONeill-set-charge-Saudi-Al-Hilal.html

Eric Gerets just left them and is seen as a hero, so they need to get another high profile boss in.

I think Tony O'Reilly can do the job. He's adept at running big business, was a top sportsman himself and he'd do it for free. Plus he'd get all the feedback on players from journos who work for him and we'd have an absolutely super duper team, as long as they play in the sky leagues, an english speaking country (except Ireland of course) and most importantly give good copy. Plus they'd always play brilliantly, get rave reviews from Indo and related papers, while Johnny Giles and Richie Sadlier would make sure to say good things at all times. Can't do better than that guys!

[Charlie Darwin]

I think Tony O'Reilly can do the job. He's adept at running big business, was a top sportsman himself and he'd do it for free.
Yet somehow I can still envision John Delaney going to Denis O'Brien and asking him to stump up...

[ArdeeBhoy]

Lennon, thanks but no. He'll not ever be a top manager, though love his passion.

And if Newcastle don't pick up soon, Hughton might yet be pitting his wits up against Sean O'Driscoll again soon, which is where the thread comes full circle??

[Junior]

Rumour this morning after Newcastles 4-0 defeat to Arsenal, that Chris might well be on the lookout for a new job very soon.......

[elroy]

Rumour this morning after Newcastles 4-0 defeat to Arsenal, that Chris might well be on the lookout for a new job very soon.......

Ya heard that on Sky last night, what are Newcastle like??!?! They get a decent successful manager and a bit of stability but always want to fcuk it up.

[Charlie Darwin]

Mad as the Newcastle board tend to be, I think they'll have been expecting a thrashing at Arsenal playing an understrength team like that. Result was very unfair on them I thought and the scandalous second goal more of less killed it.

[SwanVsDalton]

As much as it'd be nice, can't see Hughton, Coyle or O'Neill being interested. They've too much potential as club managers or are too young. Meanwhile Coppell's too much of a flake, he'd be out the door after a fortnight.

I actually wouldn't mind Tardelli. Patchy enough managerial history, but he appears to be the Trap's motivating right hand man as well as his chief eyes on the ground - he probably knows more about the players than Trap does. I could see him wanting to put his own stamp on the team too.

[rebelmusic]

I think managers in their twilight of their career can see the benefit. Jack has had so many promotional deals over the years and still gets them, he wants for nothing. If you're succesful with the irish team, and don't create a Saipan saga, there are massive benefits.

[seanfhear]

I think managers in their twilight of their career can see the benefit. Jack has had so many promotional deals over the years and still gets them, he wants for nothing. If you're succesful with the irish team, and don't create a Saipan saga, there are massive benefits.
I'd say that you would'nt do too bad even if you created/were involved in a Saipan saga. You would have had to get to a major tournament to have such a saga !

[Kingdom]

First time looking in at this thread, and while I think it's still a bit out of line just yet, it's no harm identifying some potential targets. Having said that the next 8 months will dictate whether Trap stays or goes, and to an extent it will also have an effect on Tardelli's chances too.
From the moment Trap took the job on with Tardelli as #2, I held the belief Marco would be the heir to the throne after the WC2010 campaign. I still think he's top of the queue at the moment, his English has got better, and I like him. However, he needs to have a word in Trap's shell about the type of football we're playing and the composition of the squad, because there is a sense now that the management (and Tardelli is included in this) are not aware of all the options open to them, or if they are, they are starting to make risky judgement calls.

Of the potential candidates mentioned here? I cannot understand the clamour for O'Neill. I just can't. Would Irish fans cack themselves for him if he hadn't managed Celtic? Strachan's record there stands up against him up there and I guess there won't be a stampede for the little ginger to take over from Trap. Plus his "record" at Villa, for the money spent, wasn't superb at all. As it stands I think in this decade we'll actually have the players to play a more composed possession based game, and consequently I wouldn't be too eager for O'Neill to take over.

Allardyce? Mwhahahahahahaahahaha. That reminds me of the bit in Se7en where Morgan Freeman is in Pitt & Paltrow's apartment when he just bursts into hysterical laughter.
Anywho.....
Lennon - why? In 18 months time there will be better, more experienced, more suitable candidates than him floating around. Sure hasn't he failed all the big tests so far anyway ;)

Chris Hughton is someone I have a huge admiration for. He didn't seem to come out of Kerr's tenure too tainted, and has done a decent job at Newcastle so far. I would be very happy to see him part of a management team in the future.

Owen Coyle seems very practical, very honest, and tries to play good football. Very committed and is very eager to trust the young players.
Keane and McCarthy I'd say no to both now, and I would think it would too divisive if we went back down that road. I don't necessarily think we need to do it either. There are plenty of decent managers out there, it's about time the FAI starting selling the team properly when on the hunt for managers. We'll never attract the Capello's or Ancelloti's in their prime, but then again those guys wouldn't be the type I'd be aiming for anyway.

[ifk101]

It'll most likely be Brady and/ or Tardelli.

Brady wanted the job prior to Trapattoni's appointment and there's no real reason to suggest that desire for the job is gone.

Anybody else notice how "diplomatic" Brady has become in evaluating individual player performances on RTE? Prior to the appointment of Trapattoni, one of the reasons Brady has not deemed suitable for the job was his criticism of players on RTE. While Brady's more diplomatic approach in appraising player performances can be seen as a show of support for Trapattoni, Brady might also be consciously considering the future and the part he has to play in it.

[Wolfie]

It'll most likely be Brady and/ or Tardelli.

Brady wanted the job prior to Trapattoni's appointment and there's no real reason to suggest that desire for the job is gone.

Anybody else notice how "diplomatic" Brady has become in evaluating individual player performances on RTE? Prior to the appointment of Trapattoni, one of the reasons Brady has not deemed suitable for the job was his criticism of players on RTE. While Brady's more diplomatic approach in appraising player performances can be seen as a show of support for Trapattoni, Brady might also be consciously considering the future and the part he has to play in it.

A credible argument - but why take the RTE gig if you know you'll be hamstrung with diplomacy??

[ifk101]

A credible argument - but why take the RTE gig if you know you'll be hamstrung with diplomacy??

:money: :beer: :dance:

[ArdeeBhoy]

Brady's not up to it. For the earlier flaws identified.
And has a very cosy number at Arsenal. Probably for Life if he wants it?

[SwanVsDalton]

Of the potential candidates mentioned here? I cannot understand the clamour for O'Neill. I just can't. Would Irish fans cack themselves for him if he hadn't managed Celtic? Strachan's record there stands up against him up there and I guess there won't be a stampede for the little ginger to take over from Trap. Plus his "record" at Villa, for the money spent, wasn't superb at all. As it stands I think in this decade we'll actually have the players to play a more composed possession based game, and consequently I wouldn't be too eager for O'Neill to take over.

Bit harsh. At Celtic he was coming up against a far more competitive Rangers side under McLeish than I think Strachan faced during his whole tenure. He was also generally more successful in Europe. They also simply played better football than Strachan's side.

As for under Villa, I actually thought he did a very good job. Made some questionable calls, but taking a side who were previously so poor and inconsistent and making them contenders is no mean feat. I think the amount he spent is a red herring since he paid a bomb for people like Milner and Young even though they have considerable resale value. And also the problem with monies spent is Villa can only aspire to purchase certain players since it's no competition between them and the top four plus Man City and Spurs. To be 7th in the queue isn't easy and it meant he had to pay a lot for some average players. He probably could've looked farther afield for players but that was his biggest problem - simple stubborness. Not always a bad thing in a manager.

[bennocelt]

Bit harsh. At Celtic he was coming up against a far more competitive Rangers side under McLeish than I think Strachan faced during his whole tenure. He was also generally more successful in Europe. They also simply played better football than Strachan's side.

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Just about, also he isnt a coach and has left many dressing rooms very unhappy

[seanfhear]

Just about, also he isnt a coach and has left many dressing rooms very unhappyA football manager is better to leave winning dressing rooms than happy dressing rooms.

I do believe that M O' Neill still has to prove it at the highest level but how many managers get the chance at a top four club(and with money) these days
O'Neill probably would do a good job but we will never know until/if he gets a chance at one of the big contenders.

[Plastic Paddy]

I have a high regard for Chris Hughton and would welcome him as a future Ireland manager. I have a hunch he'll be out of a job with Newcastle before the Ireland job comes up - such is football - and has a lot of experience in both the managerial and coaching contexts, including of course as assistant to Brian Kerr. As he is based in England he'd be able to keep a closer eye on how the majority of the players are progressing with their clubs. He has to be a contender.

:ball: PP

[ArdeeBhoy]

There's no chance it'd be MO'N. Well, not for most of this decade unless his club record takes a major dive.

So Hughton, O'Driscoll & Tardelli should be the main contenders?

[Stuttgart88]

I thought I read somewhere that O'Neill is lined up to take a mega-bucks job in Saudi Arabia on a 2 year contract.