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Tony Soprano
21/09/2010, 2:21 AM
729 people is a poor reflection on rtes decision to move it till a saturday afternoon.. I sincerely hope that they leave the fai semis times untouched..

a poor reflection on the FAI allowing them to move it.

should have gotten them to show the Bohs-Rovers league game instead

mypost
21/09/2010, 3:28 AM
Not really. It shows what damage moving the games from a Friday night does.

Moving games from Fridays isn't a problem. Timing them right is.

In England, Scotland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, anywhere else you can think of, live weekend domestic games are never shown at the same time as the other fixtures, when the target audience are out watching their own games. Here they are.

Sunday night is a good time for a live fixture, with no competition from games here or across the water. It stands out. 1pm on a Saturday is not going to work.

Dodge
21/09/2010, 7:09 AM
a poor reflection on the FAI allowing them to move it.

should have gotten them to show the Bohs-Rovers league game instead

The Bos/Rovers game wasn't on this week....

Tony Soprano
21/09/2010, 8:22 AM
Moving games from Fridays isn't a problem. Timing them right is.

In England, Scotland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, anywhere else you can think of, live weekend domestic games are never shown at the same time as the other fixtures, when the target audience are out watching their own games. Here they are.

Sunday night is a good time for a live fixture, with no competition from games here or across the water. It stands out. 1pm on a Saturday is not going to work.

target TV audience isn't LOI fans who actually go to games - consider even if all 11 LOI games are on at the same time as a match on RTE thats still only what about 13,000 viewers - a small amount considering live games probably have 100,000 - 200,000 TV viewers (maybe someone has exact TV figures)

also consider LOI is only football on friday night (apart from indoor etc) unlike in england where so many levels play saturday at 3pm (sky are forbidden to show games at that time btw - its not their decision)

so I think friday night is a good option

agree sunday evening would be good aswell, though I suspect this may be more valuable to RTE's other scheduling (higher ratings) maybe 6pm would be possible, very much doubt RTE would do 8pm


The Bos/Rovers game wasn't on this week....

RTE have a contractual obligation to show a certain number of games

they didn't want to show the cup qf on that friday night but had to show a game so they moved the pats qf to the saturday

instead, to fill up their numbers, they should have tried to show the rearranged bohs rovers midweek league game (only needed one of them to win to be rearranged so always likely)

someone should have seen this coming, biggest LOI game in years and it isn't on TV, while instead we got pats v fingal in front of less than 1,000 in a graveyard time slot on saturday lunchtime

PartySaint
21/09/2010, 9:30 AM
someone should have seen this coming, biggest LOI game in years and it isn't on TV, while instead we got pats v fingal in front of less than 1,000 in a graveyard time slot on saturday lunchtime

Can you atleast wait until the game is on before you call it the biggest LOI game in years, the title could be over by the time it comes around

Dodge
21/09/2010, 9:37 AM
once again, the major problem with Saturday games isn't competition from TV but junior, intermediate and schoolboy football

danthesaint
21/09/2010, 10:38 AM
Moving games from Fridays isn't a problem. Timing them right is.

In England, Scotland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, anywhere else you can think of, live weekend domestic games are never shown at the same time as the other fixtures, when the target audience are out watching their own games. Here they are.

Sunday night is a good time for a live fixture, with no competition from games here or across the water. It stands out. 1pm on a Saturday is not going to work.

sunday night matches still affect attendences

BonnieShels
21/09/2010, 11:05 AM
Moving games from Fridays isn't a problem. Timing them right is.

In England, Scotland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, anywhere else you can think of, live weekend domestic games are never shown at the same time as the other fixtures, when the target audience are out watching their own games. Here they are.

Sunday night is a good time for a live fixture, with no competition from games here or across the water. It stands out. 1pm on a Saturday is not going to work.

The biggest issue for live games is consistency. I.know a lot of people who earlier in the season were just getting used to a Friday night live match and then it was finished.

Imho Sunday night, 7pm would be the dogs, **** all competition except maybe poirot.
Now that the Gaa intercounty season is over it could be done.

Dodge
21/09/2010, 11:15 AM
Setanta showed games at that time. Definitely affected attendances. No ideas on TV figures

BonnieShels
21/09/2010, 12:11 PM
That's the problem, if its clashing with other LOI games of course it will. If the Sunday evening game became a stand alone fixture and was consistent then it can only be a good thing for the league. The people who go to games will always go most of the people watching at home couldn't darken the gates of the the flansiro, tolka or dalyer.
We should be attempting a long term view of this. Gates will be affected initially but If the games are picked right then people will want to go them after watching the product consistently over a period of time.

Dodge
21/09/2010, 12:25 PM
That's the problem, if its clashing with other LOI games of course it will. If the Sunday evening game became a stand alone fixture and was consistent then it can only be a good thing for the league. The people who go to games will always go most of the people watching at home couldn't darken the gates of the the flansiro, tolka or dalyer.
We should be attempting a long term view of this. Gates will be affected initially but If the games are picked right then people will want to go them after watching the product consistently over a period of time.

Don't disagree with your thinking but all clubs are in desperate straights and simply can't afford to give up as much gate money as they're being asked to do (by moving games).

My own preference is for the TV game to be on a Saturday evening (with a highlights show built into the 45 minutes or so pre-game show (apologies for the American))

osarusan
21/09/2010, 12:44 PM
My own preference is for the TV game to be on a Saturday evening (with a highlights show built into the 45 minutes or so pre-game show (apologies for the American))

The highlights of the previous night's action?

So every LOI game (or PD, at least), kicks off on Friday night, and there's 45 minutes of highlights of those games in the build-up to the live game on the Saturday night and the only game that is ever played on a Saturday night is the game that's on TV?

I like the sound of that myself.

Dodge
21/09/2010, 1:19 PM
That'd be my idea alright osarusan.

BonnieShels
21/09/2010, 4:07 PM
That would be a stonker of an idea.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
21/09/2010, 6:53 PM
Bohs semi on the Friday night apparently

Dodge
21/09/2010, 6:55 PM
Bohs semi on the Friday night apparently

http://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=3940

Well the Rovers/Pats game is definitely Sunday

Nah Nah Nah Nah
21/09/2010, 8:51 PM
I know sense never comes into anything like this but wouldn't it make more sense for the Bohs match to be on the Sunday seeing as Sligo fans have further to travel? They did the same thing last season and made Waterford play up in Sligo on a Friday night and Fingal / Bray play on a Sunday afternoon

dong
21/09/2010, 9:13 PM
Don't disagree with your thinking but all clubs are in desperate straights and simply can't afford to give up as much gate money as they're being asked to do (by moving games).

My own preference is for the TV game to be on a Saturday evening (with a highlights show built into the 45 minutes or so pre-game show (apologies for the American))

Like that idea Dodge. Makes it a once a week "big event". And we all know how much us Irish love those!

dong
21/09/2010, 9:16 PM
I know sense never comes into anything like this but wouldn't it make more sense for the Bohs match to be on the Sunday seeing as Sligo fans have further to travel? They did the same thing last season and made Waterford play up in Sligo on a Friday night and Fingal / Bray play on a Sunday afternoon

I can't understand that myself. We'll still bring a good few but it would be easier for people to travel on the Sunday.

TheBoss
22/09/2010, 3:01 PM
NEXT LIVE MATCH:

Saturday 2nd October 13:00
Sporting Fingal v St. Patrick's Athletic

superjohnny
22/09/2010, 3:54 PM
NEXT LIVE MATCH:

Saturday 2nd October 13:00
Sporting Fingal v St. Patrick's Athletic

Another big crowd so.

passinginterest
22/09/2010, 4:00 PM
At this stage I think RTE are just attempting to make Pete Mahon's head explode.

PartySaint
22/09/2010, 5:53 PM
At this stage I think RTE are just attempting to make Pete Mahon's head explode.

And then week after that we have Bohs at 1 on a Saturday aswell

Nah Nah Nah Nah
22/09/2010, 6:10 PM
Wonder what the crowd for that game will be like? The cup match was over 1,000 below the Pats average attendance this season. That's a lot of money to be missing out on and I presume the RTE fee isn't coming close to covering that

Nah Nah Nah Nah
22/09/2010, 8:40 PM
Bohemians v Shamrock Rovers
The above Airtricity League Premier Division fixture, originally scheduled for Friday October 15th and postponed due to the FAI Ford Cup semi-final qualification of both clubs has been rearranged for Tuesday, 5th October at Dalymount Park with a 7.05 pm kick-off time. The match will be broadcast live on RTE Two.

Tony Soprano
22/09/2010, 8:53 PM
7:05 ?

SkStu
22/09/2010, 8:56 PM
5 minutes for a lengthy and in-depth preview show.

why not 7.35 or 8.05, i dont know...

DeNiro
22/09/2010, 9:01 PM
Which clubs have not been on live yet this season? UCD and Bray spring to mind, were Drogheda on yet? Everyone else has been on from what I recall.

Dunny
22/09/2010, 9:14 PM
First Louth derby this season was broadcast.

pineapple stu
23/09/2010, 9:08 AM
Which clubs have not been on live yet this season? UCD and Bray spring to mind, were Drogheda on yet? Everyone else has been on from what I recall.
There's a summary earlier in the thread, DeNiro. It's just us and Bray alright.

DeNiro
23/09/2010, 9:48 AM
There's a slight irony in UCD not being on yet given that their ground is the closest to Montrose and is often said on MNS are one of the sides that play the most attractive brand of football in the league. If Rovers win this weekend maybe RTE might start to focus on the relegation battle in future broadcasts this season.