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Young team with lots of potential..it will click into place soon..Pat Dolan will bring us through this patch...The man has put Cork City on the map these last couple of years..lets give him a chance..He loves our Club and our City..Some of the comments below about him being here for money and other childish comments are sickening...The young little boys that write these messages dont know Pat Dolan at all..So come on Pat and come on City :)
A face
24/04/2004, 11:02 PM
Another point aswell is that $h€l$ and Boez are fulltime pro at least 5 and 3 year respectively. City are fulltime only a year (if you could call us fulltime yet) that will tell its own story.
As for where we are right now .... it is a bad patch and every team get one. It is a test of metal for the team and the fans. It is only a matter of time till we hit the ground running.
jofyisgod
25/04/2004, 11:38 AM
It is only a matter of time till we hit the ground running.
C'MON CITY! Less moaning, more support! CITY TILL I DIE!
RedX and A Face, I couldn't agree more with both of you.
Some of the comments being posted here are way OTT. It's the usual knee jerk reactions, why can't people have just a little bit of patience. We will get things right eventually.
Also the abuse people were giving Dolan and the players at the game was totally uncalled for. I heard people shouting that "Dan Murray's the worst centre half in the league" and at the very start of the game some idiot was already calling Georgie "a heartless fcuk". As for the booing, I think it's worth noting that most people in the Shed realised what they were doing after a few seconds and started to applaude the teams effort instead.
As for the sort of abuse Moses was shouting at Dolan, it was sickening. At least most people shouted him down and a chant of Pat Dolan's Rebel Army soon followed.
jofyisgod
25/04/2004, 11:56 AM
Well said, Colm. People need to calm down, lower expectations and get behind the lads. Then, it will happen for us.
city 4 life
25/04/2004, 12:02 PM
I have to say i agree with this thread. I think overreaction seems to be a major thing on this board in d past few days. I know the table doesn't make pretty viewing for City fans at the moment but it will come together and hopefully sooner rather than later!!!!
Wasn't impressed by all the booing at the final whistle on Friday but everybody is entitled to their own opinion!
more support for City is needed by certain sections of the ground!!
CITY 4 LIFE :D
applehunter
25/04/2004, 10:41 PM
I noticed the Corner started booing after the final whistle on Friday.
thecorner
25/04/2004, 10:50 PM
if u read earlier posts u will see that i admitted i was booing and i was not ashamed either
bet there was on more on this board that were also booing and have not come clean
The man has put Cork City on the map...
I'd prefer was for footballing reasons as opposed to hype.
i've supported City through good times and bad (mostly bad it has to be said) and i'll always support the team, and don't get me wrong i like PD but he needs to start walking the walk. He has grand ideas and talks a great game and i desoeratly want to belive him but its soul destroying watching City at the moment
i'll be there in Dublin on friday though shouting myself hoarse i only hope the team finds as much heart at we the supporters have because its lacking big time at the moment
i've supported City through good times and bad (mostly bad it has to be said) and i'll always support the team, and don't get me wrong i like PD but he needs to start walking the walk. He has grand ideas and talks a great game and i desoeratly want to belive him but its soul destroying watching City at the moment
i'll be there in Dublin on friday though shouting myself hoarse i only hope the team finds as much heart at we the supporters have because its lacking big time at the moment
my thoughts exactly.
Echo Boy
26/04/2004, 4:14 PM
Dolan is an excellent Commercial Manager but when it comes to managing a football team he doesnt have a clue and just spoofs his way along. "we were unlucky etc..... We cant be F***in unlucky all the time! He is going to drag us down to the level where St Pats are now. DOLAN OUT
jofyisgod
26/04/2004, 5:34 PM
DOLAN OUT
:rolleyes: Here we go again...
Dolan Out :D
DOLAN OUT
And who, in your well informed opinion will replace him?
Dont bother saying Dave Barry. Be realistic.
And who, in your well informed opinion will replace him?
Dont bother saying Dave Barry. Be realistic.
I have a feeling that John Caulfield will manage City at some stage.
He has led Avondale to 2 successive League Titles in the last 2 years.
Éanna
27/04/2004, 10:11 AM
"we were unlucky etc..... We cant be F***in unlucky all the time!
you've justr answered your own argument there. We can't be unlucky all the time, so yes, our luck will change and we will start doing well. :rolleyes:
I have a feeling that John Caulfield will manage City at some stage.
He has led Avondale to 2 successive League Titles in the last 2 years.
Great :rolleyes: Thats really what we need. That should set the club back a nice few decades. Feck that. Bring him back now and we can get Patsy and Hartigan back too. And we can all go get locked with the players in Frankie Sulls after the game. Who needs professionalism.
How many times do people need telling that sticking a fella in a job cos he did a few good things once doesn't work :rolleyes:
razor
27/04/2004, 10:14 AM
How many times do people need telling that sticking a fella in a job cos he did a few good things once doesn't work :rolleyes:
Like Dolan ?
:rolleyes:
Éanna
27/04/2004, 10:25 AM
No not like Dolan. Dolan has a proven track record from his time at Pats. I was referring to Dave Barry's "glorious record" of having won one FAI Cup and a League Cup in what? 4 years With probably the best team in the country for 3 of those 4 years :rolleyes:
razor
27/04/2004, 10:44 AM
Well I wasn't refering to Dave Barry at all.
All I did was mention that Caulfield might manage City at some stage in the future.
Not now, some time in the future.
Éanna
27/04/2004, 12:13 PM
Dave Barry, Liam Murphy, John Caulfield etc etc. We've finally cleansed the club of the whole lot of those chancers the last thing we need is to start bring them back. they were great servants in their day but this club went very stale because none of them knew when to leave. Great servants they were, but don't bring them back. If I was to point out anyone as a future citymanger, it would be Kerley from Limerick in a few years
razor
27/04/2004, 12:36 PM
I unlike yourself do not agree in tarring everyone with the same brush, Murphy and Barry have already managed City and I don't believe in bringing them back as they've had their turn and thanks to them.
Caulfield is a different story, if he can do a job down the line then it'll be with a clean slate and not embittered with past memories people can't shake off.
Dave Barry, Liam Murphy, John Caulfield etc etc. We've finally cleansed the club of the whole lot of those chancers the last thing we need is to start bring them back.
Exactly, they did good things for the club but they've had their time. This is the Dolan era now, an era of professionalism and what will turn out to be an era of great success if people are patient.
I unlike yourself do not agree in tarring everyone with the same brush, Murphy and Barry have already managed City and I don't believe in bringing them back as they've had their turn and thanks to them.
Caulfield is a different story, if he can do a job down the line then it'll be with a clean slate and not embittered with past memories people can't shake off.
I agree with you, but what I'm getting at is that "if he can do a job" is a very big "if"! The guy has no experience of professional football at any level, and IMO would be a fish out of water.
I have to agree that it would not be in Cork Citys best interest to have any of the above ex-players back to manage anymore..to much of the old crew and the club would probably go downhill...i am not saying Dolan will be leaving anytime soon but do any of you actually think that assistant boss Noel O Connor would get the job if Dolan moved upstairs..he is a good coach and knows the players well..he would have his own ideas also..he did a great job with Limerick and probably was the one that brought in most of the players Kerley had last season..still though Kerley will do well sometime down the line in management..thats if he doesent retire after all the rubbish he has been through with Limerick...
Peadar
28/04/2004, 8:13 AM
We've finally cleansed the club of the whole lot of those chancers
Ha ha Éanna, you're a barrel of laughs :D
I just looked up chancer in the dictionary and low and behold there's a picture of Pat Dolan.
Jim Smith
28/04/2004, 8:37 AM
This is the Dolan era now, an era of professionalism and what will turn out to be an era of great success if people are patient.
IMHO Dolan has much to prove and this is the season that he has to do it. He has all the resources that he can expect at City at this point in time and he has to show that he can manage footbal as well as he can talk football. While not in the 'Dolan Out' camp I'm a long way from falling on my knees and worshiping him either...
Ha ha Éanna, you're a barrel of laughs :D
I just looked up chancer in the dictionary and low and behold there's a picture of Pat Dolan.
Sorry, Iwas trying to be nice and avoid using words like "wasters" "backstabbers" etc., but lets not have this debate again Peadar.
While not in the 'Dolan Out' camp I'm a long way from falling on my knees and worshiping him either...
agreed.
Fair_play_boy
28/04/2004, 6:34 PM
Hmm. I have followed City only for the last three seasons, so what I have to say is through the eyes of a newcomer, for what it is worth.
1. Dolan does appear to have a solid business plan for the club, and by allaccounts he is putting his money where his mouth is by investing his own private stash in CCFC.
2. His brashness on the sideline and in the media are a breath of fresh air, even though he looks a bit childish at times, making pointless protests at the ref and linesmen, and that time he nearly throttled Denis Behan.
3. Bad luck affects any team's performance, as does good luck, but he has made his own bad luck by causing (or allowing?) crazy things to happen. For example, Georgie is an excellent finisher, but he seems not to know what to do in midfield when he gets the ball. Apart from creating a bit of space for himself, he is a lousy play maker when he gets free possession. Another example, what was Georgie doing taking a free kick 5 yards outside the box on the right wing at the St. Annes end against Drogheda? He was the only person with the stature and the skill to pick up a high cross, so he should have been in the box receiving.
4. Why, after a whole game doing it two weeks ago, does Dolan allow Devine to hoof his kick outs into space, where City lose 75% of the time to the opposition?
5. Why did he allow Fenn stay on after the 55th minute, when he was a spent force, and looked bored?
6. Why did he take off Nwankwo??????? Player of the game in my view.
7. Playing with the ball in the shed during one of City's best moves was an embarrassing sight. Can Dolan's suport be that real???
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