Which city / town has the highest percentage of LOI supporters?

[Tony Soprano]

Ireland as a whole, most people not interested in LOI, many actively disnterested

But does the level of interest and support vary much from place to place ?

I have always thought Cork and Derry had more support and interest, and a higher profile, in their hometowns than say the Dublin teams do in theirs. Do you think thats correct ?

Would someone from Dundalk and Sligo for example be far more likely to be fan of the local team than someone from Dublin, Cork or Derry ?

Perhaps the level of active support (attendances) is similar, but the level of interest and goodwill is greater, or even the level of disinterest, even hoostility, is lower ?

What do you think - which town or city takes most interest in its team ? Dundalk, Sligo, Derry, Cork ? Somewhere else ?

[Rasputin]

I would say either ourselves or Dundalk with Derry just behind.
I wouldnt put Cork as high tbh, Cork city has a very big population and lets keep in mind they have just one club in the city.
Attendence wise per head of population us and Dundalk are well ahead of the rest.
I cant speak for Dundalk fans on the general level of goodwill but here in Sligo Town its very big.
There isnt a day at work that I wouldnt be discussing the club and the LOI with someone, its very much the norm here.
With quite a significant regular support and an even larger transient support that take an interest and turn up for the odd big game.

[Lim till i die]

Sevastopol.

[dcfcsteve]

Which foot.ie poster has the highest propensity to post random, inane, speculative and slightly bonkers posts....?

Answers on the back of a horses head to....

:D

[Straightstory]

Ireland as a whole, most people not interested in LOI, many actively disnterested

But does the level of interest and support vary much from place to place ?

I have always thought Cork and Derry had more support and interest, and a higher profile, in their hometowns than say the Dublin teams do in theirs. Do you think thats correct ?

Would someone from Dundalk and Sligo for example be far more likely to be fan of the local team than someone from Dublin, Cork or Derry ?

Perhaps the level of active support (attendances) is similar, but the level of interest and goodwill is greater, or even the level of disinterest, even hoostility, is lower ?

What do you think - which town or city takes most interest in its team ? Dundalk, Sligo, Derry, Cork ? Somewhere else ?

'Actively disinterested?' I like it! (I know which 'town' has the least interested supporters - Dublin).

[Park_Lane]

(I know which 'town' has the least interested supporters - Dublin).


Dublin is not a 'town' my friend, its a city with a population of 1,661,185.

[Tony Soprano]

'Actively disinterested?' I like it! (I know which 'town' has the least interested supporters - Dublin).

i wonder if that's true. dublin as a whole maybe. for example on my other thread about clubs in dublin, the areas which are strongholds for rovers, bohs and pats (dundrum, finglas etc) - i wonder if the level of support in those areas is comparable to that in cork and derry, with there then being other areas in Dublin where it is far lower ?

[Riddickcule]

Wrong - just over a million. Nowhere near 1.6

[The Lep]

Swords :)

[De Town]

Which foot.ie poster has the highest propensity to post random, inane, speculative and slightly bonkers posts....?

Answers on the back of a horses head to....

:D

Iorfa2MaccaJim?

[Candystripe]

I would say Finn Harps must be away ahead as the population of Ballybofey aint very big!

[galwayjames]

i hate saying it but sligo by a long way.

then probably be dundalk and the area around the brandywell in derry.

sligo and bray have more or less the same population but sligo's average attendances i would estimate are about four times higher than bray.

[ndrog]

i hate saying it but sligo by a long way.

then probably be dundalk and the area around the brandywell in derry.

sligo and bray have more or less the same population but sligo's average attendances i would estimate are about four times higher than bray.

Dundalks crowds are bigger than sligos arent they ? Anyway the whole answer to the question would change depending on when it was asked . Galway had good crowds a couple of seasons ago and dundalks werent great !

[galwayjames]

Dundalks crowds are bigger than sligos arent they ?

Yeah but Dundalk is twice the size of sligo.

[Lim till i die]

Sligo, Dundalk, it's all bald men fighting over a greasy, plastic, comb.

It's no coincidence Sligo and Dundalk would be so high up. Little or no rugby and the GAA teams are generally rubbish.

It's a stoopid question anyway tbf, it's nigh on impossible to calculate "interest."

[dcfcsteve]

Yeah but Dundalk is twice the size of sligo.

Yer arse it is !

This thread is the sort of relatively pointless conjecture we expect to see on here in the off season - not in the thick of the title races, cup stages and European games.

The bottom line is that it's all pretty moot. As Candystripe posted earlier, Harps have statistically the best crowds versus population of the town. But Harps support comes from all over East Donegal, not just Ballybofey, so it's a pointless statistic. GalwayJames - your claim to know how much of City's support comes from around the Brandywell in the first place, let alone how that compares to other areas, shows how daft this whole thread is.It's not helped by people not even knowing the relative size of towns to each other in the first place. Pure uninformed pointless conjecture.

For the record - 759% of the population of one household in the centre of Longford go to their games regularly, so they win hands down.

Looking forward to your next fasinating thread already Iorfa - sorry, Tony Soprano...

[galwayjames]

Yer arse it is !

GalwayJames - your claim to know how much of City's support comes from around the Brandywell in the first place, let alone how that compares to other areas, shows how daft this whole thread is.

Dundalk's population is 35,000 - Sligo's is 17,000.

I've been to the Brandywell and it's in the heart of the Bogside, which is heavily populated, so I'd imagine I wouldn't be 100 miles off in guessing a sizeable proportion of them support Derry. And I didn't claim to know, I estimated.

You are right that it's another pointless thread, though at least it gets people talking.

[Lim till i die]

The population of county Sligo is qhat, 60000, though?? Like where do you draw the line??*






*Funnily enough, this is the question which renders this whole thread bobbins.

[Riddickcule]

^ Agreed why do people on this forum get so worked up when we discuss things that matter the most. ie the state of football in this country.

[seand]

Another delightfully pointless thread! It did bring this gem of information to light though....

According to the Bible that is Wiki the 2002 population of Ballybofey/Stranorlar is 3603, and the 2002 population of Ballybofey is 4176. By my calculation that means there are -573 people living in Stranorlar.

[Schumi]

Another delightfully pointless thread! It did bring this gem of information to light though....

According to the Bible that is Wiki the 2002 population of Ballybofey/Stranorlar is 3603, and the 2002 population of Ballybofey is 4176. By my calculation that means there are -573 people living in Stranorlar.
Doesn't bode well for Harps' move to their new stadium in Stranorlar.

[galwayjames]

Doesn't bode well for Harps' move to their new stadium in Stranorlar.

It's lucky they are pretty much the same town!

[Schumi]

It's lucky they are pretty much the same town!

where 116% of the population live on one side of the river. :D

[Mr A]

Yep. And Derry should move to Belfast.

[Schumi]

They should all move to Dublin obviously.

[GUFCghost]

Dublin is not a 'town' my friend, its a city with a population of 1,661,185.

I presume you meant to say it was a skip with a population of 1,661,185 ?

[GUFCghost]

I would say Finn Harps must be away ahead as the population of Ballybofey aint very big!

I would think they represent County Donegal?

[dcfcsteve]

Dundalk's population is 35,000 - Sligo's is 17,000.

What's your source for these figures ? I've just Googled it and got 2010 estimates of 17,000 for Sligo and 26,000 for Dundalk (http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_sligo_2010). That doesn't address the question of where Sligo (or indeed Dundalk) start and stop, let alone the fact that both figures are estimates anyway. Which is part of why the thread is just pointless conjecture ! ;)


I've been to the Brandywell and it's in the heart of the Bogside, which is heavily populated, so I'd imagine I wouldn't be 100 miles off in guessing a sizeable proportion of them support Derry. And I didn't claim to know, I estimated.

You may well have been to the Brandywell, but it hasn't helped your understanding of the city much as the stadium is in, err, the Brandywell - not the Bogside ;). The Brandywell is in the heart of the Bogside the same way that Dublin is in the heart of Wicklow.

I'm not sure how you would define either the Bogside or the Brandywell as heavily populated. The Bogside in particular doesn't have half the population it did 40 years ago, has large swathes of open land (gas works, dual carriageway/flyover, the shops etc), and its highest building is 4-5 storeys tall. The Brandywell has less flats than the Bog, and arguably covers a smaller area (again - where do nboth areas start and stop ?). Again - population density is all relative anyway... :D

As for the estimate that a sizeable proportion of the Bogside support DCFC, I'm afraid there's no evidence to support that assumption. I've had kids give me anti-DCFC abuse walking through the area on the way to games, for example, and the large numnbers of cars around the stadium on matchday suggest against a high local proportion of support. In my experience our support is much more evenly spread across the city than you're suggesting.

I've been to Turners Cross, but I'd never dare estimate the percentage spread of Cork's support on the basis of the odd random visit.

[El-Pietro]

Plenty of Celtic and GAA fans around the Brandywell I would have thought

[gspain]

Plenty of Celtic and GAA fans around the Brandywell I would have thought

Derry is very much a football city with the GAA heartlands down in south Derry.

Sligo or Dundalk for me are both strong football towns as is Drogheda.

I'd reckon Sligo would have the strongest pro rata support from within the town.

[citybone]

I would say either ourselves or Dundalk with Derry just behind.
I wouldnt put Cork as high tbh, Cork city has a very big population and lets keep in mind they have just one club in the city.
Attendence wise per head of population us and Dundalk are well ahead of the rest.
I cant speak for Dundalk fans on the general level of goodwill but here in Sligo Town its very big.
There isnt a day at work that I wouldnt be discussing the club and the LOI with someone, its very much the norm here.
With quite a significant regular support and an even larger transient support that take an interest and turn up for the odd big game.

Cork & Derry have similar metro populations, Cork has a higher amount in the Urban Area alright, Corks average crowds over the last 10 years have been higher than Derry's bar 1 year i think per population is fairly even between Cork & Derry

[Hitman]

^ Agreed why do people on this forum get so worked up when we discuss things that matter the most. ie the state of football in this country.

Because the most important question still remains unresolved: Who does Dana support?

[Rasputin]

^ Agreed why do people on this forum get so worked up when we discuss things that matter the most. ie the state of football in this country.
Absolutely, you would swear space is at a premium on foot.ie.
Anyway if the posters think its inane then dont read it, its not rocket science.

[eelmonster]

What's your source for these figures ? I've just Googled it and got 2010 estimates of 17,000 for Sligo and 26,000 for Dundalk (http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_sligo_2010). That doesn't address the question of where Sligo (or indeed Dundalk) start and stop, let alone the fact that both figures are estimates anyway. Which is part of why the thread is just pointless conjecture ! ;)


trueknowledge.com FFS. The 2006 census of Ireland is quite clear on where the towns start and stop, and you're wrong ... again.

http://www.cso.ie/census/documents/census2006_Table_6.pdf

[The Dynamo]

Cork & Derry have similar metro populations, Cork has a higher amount in the Urban Area alright, Corks average crowds over the last 10 years have been higher than Derry's bar 1 year i think per population is fairly even between Cork & Derry

Wouldnt say that, Derry has a metro population of about 110,000 people, whereas Cork city has a metro population of 275,000. Making the attendences of Derry (in comparison to Corks as they have been about the same the last number of years) very impressive seeing as Cork has a city almost 3 times that the size of Derry.

But overall I have always thought Sligo and Dundalk were football hotspots in the ratio of attendences to population.

[Candystripe]

I'm really enjoying this most pointless on-season thread!

The Brandywell and Bogside areas have the lowest amount of Derry fans.Our biggest support comes from the greater Shantallow area,about 3+ miles from the ground with the biggest population.

Derry also have two senior clubs remember.

[punkrocket]

[QUOTE][/QUThis thread is the sort of relatively pointless conjecture we expect to see on here in the off season OTE]

For someone who thinks that this thread is a waste of time, you've invested a fair bit of time posting all the geographical and demographic research you've been carrying out, googling stuff and wot not.
Thanks for all that it was very educational and, I feel, time well spent

[dcfcsteve]

trueknowledge.com FFS. The 2006 census of Ireland is quite clear on where the towns start and stop, and you're wrong ... again.

http://www.cso.ie/census/documents/census2006_Table_6.pdf

What are you on about Eelmonster ?

The link you posted (for anyone who can be arsed to scroll through reams to get to the info you were too lazy to just post and then source) lists the populations as 18,000 Sligo and 29,000 Dundalk. Which is hardly miles off the figures I quoted - particularly given the 4 year timespan difference between the two sources and the need to estimate to extrapolate from 2006 to 2010 (based on the 2006 figures).

Ergo - Dundalk still isn't twice as big as Sligo, so what are you on about....? :confused:

[dcfcsteve]

[QUOTE][/QUThis thread is the sort of relatively pointless conjecture we expect to see on here in the off season OTE]

For someone who thinks that this thread is a waste of time, you've invested a fair bit of time posting all the geographical and demographic research you've been carrying out, googling stuff and wot not.
Thanks for all that it was very educational and, I feel, time well spent

Thanks PR - I aim to please :D

[corkharps]

Because the most important question still remains unresolved: Who does Dana support?
The peas processed.

[dancinpants]

This threads fantastic :D

FWIW its definitely not Derry.

[eelmonster]

What the fcuk are you on about Eelmonster ?

The link you posted (for anyone who can be arsed to scroll through the reams of sh!t to get to the info you were too lazy to just post and then source) lists the populations as 18,000 Sligo and 29,000 Dundalk. Which is hardly miles off the figures I quoted - particularly given the 4 year timespan difference between the two sources and the need to estimate to extrapolate from 2006 to 2010 (based on the 2006 figures).

Ergo - Dundalk still isn't twice as big as Sligo, so what the fcuk are you on about....? :confused:

By your reasoning you've just contradicted your original post (no surprise there). I know you don't have to scroll through 'reams of sh!t' on wikipedia, trueknowledge, or your other trusted go to sites, but if you want to avoid that you just have to type the word you're looking for in the search box at the top of such a document. Stop being a pr!ck, is basically what I'm on about.

[dcfcsteve]

By your reasoning you've just contradicted your original post (no surprise there). I know you don't have to scroll through 'reams of sh!t' on wikipedia, trueknowledge, or your other trusted go to sites, but if you want to avoid that you just have to type the word you're looking for in the search box at the top of such a document. Stop being a pr!ck, is basically what I'm on about.

Eelmonster - stick to the point and stop dragging the thread off into a dark corner cuz you've got some sort of hard-on for me.

What part of the population figures you quote contradict with the assertion that Dundalk is not twice the size of Sligo ?

If you're just going to respond with more waffle or personal abuse, then don't bother. Otherwise - deal with the topic.

[eelmonster]

Hard-on? You implied Galway Jim was way out when he said Dundalk was twice the size of Sligo -- based on the various figures you've quoted he was only out by 4000, you took him to task over this, yet your first figures were also out by 4000. Also, based on a reasonable extrapolation of the previous census figures (where Sligo experienced a negative population change and Dundalk a positive), perhaps galwayjames will be closer than you again when next year's census figures are published.

[pineapple stu]

Anybody who reverts to "You've got a hard-on for me" pretty much automatically loses the argument there and then, in my opinion.

Steve - for the umpteenth time - any chance you can argue like a grown up?

[dong]

Eelmonster is a slippery character alright!;)

[dcfcsteve]

Hard-on? You implied Galway Jim was way out when he said Dundalk was twice the size of Sligo -- based on the various figures you've quoted he was only out by 4000, you took him to task over this, yet your first figures were also out by 4000. Also, based on a reasonable extrapolation of the previous census figures (where Sligo experienced a negative population change and Dundalk a positive), perhaps galwayjames will be closer than you again when next year's census figures are published.

I didn't imply he was "well out" on the figures, just that he was wrong to say Dundalk was twice the size of Sligo. Unless "yer arse it is" now assumes a minimum level of percentage variation.

We've both established Dundalk isn't twice the size of Sligo, so I've nothing more to add. Though why anyone really cares is a separate story all together... :D

[dcfcsteve]

Anybody who reverts to "You've got a hard-on for me" pretty much automatically loses the argument there and then, in my opinion.

Steve - for the umpteenth time - any chance you can argue like a grown up?

Like calling people a pr!ck you mean...?!? :confused:

[Riddickcule]

We've both established Dundalk isn't twice the size of Sligo, so I've nothing more to add. Though why anyone really cares is a separate story all together... :D
Stop moaning about it then.

[redarmyfaction]

I don't know to insert a table but I had an hour to fill so I took the populations of each town /city including suburbs and evirons from the 2006 census http://beyond2020.cso.ie/Census/TableViewer/tableView.aspx and compared with the average attendances over the last six years from the thread on here and as many people guessed Sligo come top but who would have expected the mighty Longford to come next.

Towns Pop Av Att AV att/POP
Sligo 19402 1,774 0.091
Longford 8836 581 0.066
Ballybofey- 21762 942 0.043
Letterkenny
Drogheda 35090 1,514 0.043
Dundalk 35085 1,479 0.042
Bray 31901 1,149 0.036
Wexford 18163 596 0.033
Monaghan 6710 216 0.032
Derry 90736 2,710 0.030
Athlone 17544 453 0.026
Galway 72729 1,496 0.021
Waterford 49213 904 0.018
Cork City 190384 2,865 0.015
Gr.Dublin 1045769 8,250 0.008
Limerick 90757 537 0.006

I took the Derry pop from citypopulation.de.
Harps draw support from many Donegal towns but I only included Ballybofey/Stranorlar and Letterkenny (I am told that most come from there) I ought to included Swords in the Dublin figure but I couldn't be bothered.