Cork AUL 2010/11 [Archive] - Page 45

Parkboy

27/05/2011, 12:48 PM

Thanks Innish. League came down to the wire which made it feel better to come out on top in the end. Congrats to ye too. Any one of ye have any idea when the corinthians cup final could be on?

KC i heard last night corinthians cup final is on either Tues 14th June or
Thurs 16th June.

We played Fairview last night in last away league game of the season.Very even affair,should have got a point out of it but conceded a sloppy goal 10 mins from time.
Monard is far from like a snooker table.Nearly worse than Carrigs pitch

Horse24

27/05/2011, 3:24 PM

Horse24

27/05/2011, 5:50 PM

Au Revoir Mes Amis

sharpshooter

27/05/2011, 6:12 PM

Au Revoir Mes Amis

you leaving us two horse..

the owl

27/05/2011, 8:18 PM

Sorry Parkboy that our pitch wasnt up to Mitchelstown standards. Far from snooker table football pitches you were reared. What exactly was your problem with our place, just want to hear the wisdom of a professional park utd player.
As horse said, havent heard anybody else complaining.
Red and whte, in a perfect world yes we would love to be playing on perfect surfaces every week but do you really think that AUL clubs in all divisions have the finances for that ? I think not. If we were to stop teams being promoted because of their facilities, i fear we would lose clubs every year.

overthehill

27/05/2011, 9:01 PM

spot on owl, there are so many fancy dan guys playing today who havent a clue what it was like 20yrs ago when matches were played on patches of grass in fields where a farmer wouldnt put a cow and "dressing rooms" were a row of cars lined up beside. Most games were played on a sunday morning when lads got out of bed and never missed a match. Players were on the whole loyal to one club and fought for their places rather than walk out!
Yes, nobody wants to go backwards, and fair play to all the clubs that improved their pitches and facilities, but those who are whingeing about other "less fortunates" be thankful for what you have and thank those who went before you to put them in place.

Parkboy

27/05/2011, 10:40 PM

Park, the snooker table comment was in jest as Im sure you well now. You seriously think we don't know that we need to improve our ground and facilities? Give us a bit more credit.

I would appreciate the haves not digging at the have nots. Im sure Park didnt begin life with the facilities they have now. You got 30 grand spare you can give us?

Amazing how few sides who win in Monard complain.....................

You have the same clue whats going behind the scene in Blackstone as I do about behind the scene in Park - zero.

Maybe I am wrong and this dig is not aimed at you alone Parkboy but I always think guys who built up the clubs would never make comments like that..............never seen "hard times" as the old phrase goes.

I know WHEN we have facilities to rival others that I will never dig at the "have-nots".

Lads I want to apoligise to any of the lads/clubs i offended by my earlier comments.I have been involved with Park all my life and we are one of the lucky ones who have what we have.The reason being that the biggest club to us is Fermoy 10 miles away and we were lucky with the grant we got years ago.What we take in from our busy astro turf facility pays from our groundsman so without that we wouldnt be where we are.
There is much worse pitches around than Monard or Carrig so as the saying goes Rome wasnt built in a day and im sure every club want and will improve their facilities given half the chance.

Glenbuck

29/05/2011, 8:52 PM

Big Question for all those in the know !!!!!! What was the big meeting at the cross today for the AUL commitee ?????

Shilts

30/05/2011, 1:24 PM

There is much worse pitches around than Monard or Carrig ....

One word - Silverheights :(

dodgy_knee

30/05/2011, 2:13 PM

It makes me angry when you think of the money that the AUL "lost".
Compare this to the standard of some AUL pitches out there that teams are still being forced to play on week in\week out due to lack of funding.
Could that money not have went into building an AUL complex or doing some serious improvements to existing pitches?

Parkboy

30/05/2011, 2:48 PM

Corinthians Cup Final
Friday 17th June
Kilreen Celtic vs Park B

casilles

30/05/2011, 3:33 PM

lads Monard is certainly not in anywhere near the worst pitches league! some far worse out there

villaman10

30/05/2011, 4:56 PM

big game tomorrow night carrig vs springfield, just wondering what happened bout springfield game that was called off?? did they get the points?

Learpholl

30/05/2011, 8:10 PM

big game tomorrow night carrig vs springfield, just wondering what happened bout springfield game that was called off?? did they get the points?
No idea but it says on the AUL blog that tomorrow nights game is a title decider which it wouldn't be if Springfield didn't get the points for that game so may be they did get them.

Radiostar

30/05/2011, 11:27 PM

No idea but it says on the AUL blog that tomorrow nights game is a title decider which it wouldn't be if Springfield didn't get the points for that game so may be they did get them.

Ya they were given the points! Nice and handy for them!

padjoe

31/05/2011, 4:56 AM

What is the refereeing situation for carrig v springfield? Is it referee on his own or because of the significance is there linesmen appointed as well.

Innishvilla

31/05/2011, 8:30 AM

What is the refereeing situation for carrig v springfield? Is it referee on his own or because of the significance is there linesmen appointed as well.

We had a league decided with Glenvale last year in the final league game for both sides and it was just the ref, no linesmen so I don't think the AUL normally consider it. However for a big game I do think it is a good idea, especially when it's a local derby as well!!!

thebooboys

31/05/2011, 9:10 AM

its basically up to the teams involved. If they want linesman they can get em and pay for em. We did it in the past against Kinsale but regretted it afterwards.
Best of luck to Carrig tonight.
In fairness both sides are good enough to go up and with a number of "higher" teams rumoured to be folding then both probably will go up irrespective of tonight.

Shilts

31/05/2011, 10:11 AM

its basically up to the teams involved. If they want linesman they can get em and pay for em. We did it in the past against Kinsale but regretted it afterwards.

In fairnes thebooboys, the linesmen didn't cost ye the game that night.
I remember Wilton had linos against us in a title decider a few years back also.
It is a good idea IF you can afford it.

Especially if there is going to be a big crowd, the ref needs every bit of help that he can get.
Wouldn't it be a good gesture from the AUL to pay for the extra officials for the big games (out of fines money?)

thebooboys

31/05/2011, 10:32 AM

Not saying they cost us. Was just surprised at the selection of one of the linesmen that evening that's all seeing as he wasn't involved in any Prem games prior to that. This is a few years back anyway, not recent.

If the clubs involved want to fork out the 140 or so euro then there's plenty of linesmen available this time of year.

donaldihno

31/05/2011, 12:46 PM

Must say its a joke that springfield got the points..
Not blaming springers,but that ruling..

Isn't that the joys of playing football,some pitches good,sum bad,its the challenage you must be up for..
Eg,if we ever play in clasduv road,silverheights,we might change the way we set up..
I think that what makes it enjoyable to play!

thebooboys

31/05/2011, 12:55 PM

Fact. If both teams agree on linesmen, perfectly allowable

Parkboy

31/05/2011, 2:24 PM

In fairnes thebooboys, the linesmen didn't cost ye the game that night.
I remember Wilton had linos against us in a title decider a few years back also.
It is a good idea IF you can afford it.

Especially if there is going to be a big crowd, the ref needs every bit of help that he can get.
Wouldn't it be a good gesture from the AUL to pay for the extra officials for the big games (out of fines money?)

We played Coachford in a play off decider few years back and there was linesman.
What way does it work tonight if its a draw?
Played both teams recently and its gonna be a cracker but i think ill go with Springfield on this one.

villaman10

31/05/2011, 2:34 PM

poor show by the aul to give springers the points without kicking a ball, i remember playing on a pitch where my biggest worry was avoiding the cow s*&t, not if the grass was slightly long!! suppose you cant beat clever management!!

casilles

31/05/2011, 4:54 PM

If it's a draw carrig win the league by a point. This is a regular league game.

Learpholl

31/05/2011, 7:58 PM

Finished up 2-0 to Springfield. Deserved the win too. Carrigtohill had a lot of ball second half but didn't create much.

Parkboy

31/05/2011, 8:20 PM

If it's a draw carrig win the league by a point. This is a regular league game.
I know Cas but wasnt too sure if a draw would do Springfield.
2-0 to Springfield is the result anyway

johhny g

31/05/2011, 9:02 PM

Well done to springers well worth the win as learpholl said for all carrigs possession they didn't create much Springfield could of sneaked another one or two aswell

villaman10

01/06/2011, 10:52 AM

went to the carrig springfield game last night, not a regular at aul games but been to a few this season, have to say i was surprised with the level of fitness shown for that division.. neither team stopped for the entire 90 minutes, and good game as well. springfield well worth the win, organized and very potent from set pieces (ala rockmount)! for all carrig's possesion in the second half they didn't seem to have any ideas in the last third, but in fairness they kept going till the end! from what i've seen of mjl this year both teams would easily stay up/compete at that level!!

offside rule

01/06/2011, 12:43 PM

SPRINGFIELD AUL1 CHAMPIONS 2010-2011!!!, ...fact!

After reading all the tripe that has been posted here regarding Springers!, about ''long grass, up to old tricks again, experienced managers'', we became Champions last nite - well deserved - unbeaten in League all year!.

Just remember peeps we showed up to both games, were either togging out or warming up when REFEREE decided to call off game, nothing to do with US. As the saying goes . . . 'referee's decision is final, nothing anyone can do to influence or change it'

Finally, big celebrations in Cobh last night and more to continue this Saturday night - Carrigtwohill your more than welcome to come and observe - seen as ye've spent the last few weekends in Cobh keeping an eye on us!. Ye surely know the way by now!!!

sharpshooter

01/06/2011, 12:54 PM

congrats to springfield on winning the league and going unbeaten in it for the year...feel sorry for carrig losing the league on the last game but thats football.no doubt ye will be up their again next year....

Radiostar

01/06/2011, 2:03 PM

Congratulations to Springfield, worthy Champions, were the better team on the night. Offside Rule thanks for the 'invite' to your celebrations but I think I have had enough of Springfield for this season, best of luck next season!

offside rule

01/06/2011, 3:17 PM

As was said last nite, ''its a pity only 1team goes up!'' . . . Maybe something the AUL should look more closely at.
Best of luck to Carrig aswell next Season - im sure it wont be long before our paths cross again.

the owl

01/06/2011, 6:00 PM

Congrats to Sprinfield on the league win last night. No complaints on the result, well deserved. Gutted for our lads as i felt they didnt do themselves justice. Goodluck next year to Springers and like Radio i too will decline the generous invitation to Cobh.
Great support for both sides last night and it was great to see.

backpass

01/06/2011, 8:35 PM

Learpholl

01/06/2011, 8:47 PM

well done to all teams in the aul this year and all involved with every club.On the springfield thing I must say its a disgrace what the aul did . Congrats to springers on winning the league but thats 2 very controversial endings to the league in 2 years but well done anyway.
I dont know the full story behind either of those "very controversial endings" and it may not be totally fair whatever rulings the AUL did give but having played in league 1 all season and watched the game last night, I dont think there's any doubt Springfield were the best team in the division and from what I saw played better football than anyone else too. They deserve to go up and whatever the AUL decides to do in both circumstances isnt their players fault.

kingcorner

02/06/2011, 7:31 AM

It's a shame the way Springfield conduct themselves on and off the field, good football players but that's where it ends im afraid.

offside rule

02/06/2011, 8:31 AM

King-corner, do you honestly know anyone of the Springers players personally - to say the way they conduct themselves on and off the field is way out of order. Off the field, how has there conduct been bad?. On the field, they play to win - and the leagues success proves this.
I think you should retract your statement there lad!.

As Learpholl said ''whatever the AUL decides to do in both circumstances isnt their players fault''.
Its not our issue to ensure other teams pitches are upto playing quality.

Glad to hear you think we are good footballers - at the end of the day we are a football team playing in a football league!.
Football players who give their all in every match, training session etc, - to be slated on here is way out of order!.

sharpshooter

02/06/2011, 10:25 AM

It's a shame the way Springfield conduct themselves on and off the field, good football players but that's where it ends im afraid.
kingcorner what difference to it make to what way players conduct them selfs off the pitch where not professionals for god sake we are only playing junior football and to be fair its no ones business either....

casilles

02/06/2011, 10:34 AM

Congrads to Springers on there league win, No doubt Eddie and Paulo will be laying on the BBQ this weekend :-)

Congrads to all league winners and cups too. Think its the County,Corinthiains and AOH left to play for?

Then let the silly season start!!! Think Shilts if ye pick up the triple we will let you start the thread next year! Deal????

kingcorner

02/06/2011, 11:58 AM

When I was talking about their conduct off the field I was talking about the way they act on the sidelines during the match and the attitudes and general lack of respect they have to their opposition from what iv'e seen . I couldn't care less what any person does away from football it's not my place to pass judgment on anyone.

I also think it is not the Springfield players fault that matches do get called off due a refs decision, it is up to the home team in my opinion to make sure a pitch is playable and I think the standard of the league in general needs to be improved all round.

Horse24

02/06/2011, 12:32 PM

I promised myself I would stay away because some of the stuff I wanted to say might end up with me in jail!!! But I miss ye too much!

Firstly, Congrats to all the lads in Cobh and commiserations to Carrig. I dont think one going up in any division is fair and if you cant take 4 from Prem A, then play-off between the runners up and then winner of that playing 3rd Bottom maybe a solution.

I think whats the people are trying to say, offside, is that your line has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I dont know them personally but its been a common thread in a few clubs that they have been involved with over the years as far as I have been told. My personal experience was during the winter just gone when the Blarney Street guy nearly came to blows with the ref begging him to play the game....no joy but when he rang your guy, yer guy effed him out of it as if Blarney Street were trying to play some con.No need for it. No slight on players.

There is unfair controversy attached to both your promotions and the ref is centre of both unfortunately. Same ref too. No-one blames Springfield, but your name is in the story when people are telling it. I know ye too asked the ref to play the Fairview game. Unfortunate to have that stigma attached after two great seasons. Us football people know better so well done and see ye next year out in the snooker table!!!!

The AUL want better facilities and pitches, the FAI scratch their heads and wonder why no-one is buying Aviva tickets.............ye cant have it both ways lads. The Fines are screwing everyone, they must stop. The MFA added 20% to the cost of the cup in 2010 without explanation then or since. Aviva added 75% to their insurance excess straight after signing their deal with FAI - Blackstone might be able to build a 60,000 seater stadium too if we got 75 quid from every team in ther country!! We paying out �42 for every home game without the slightest comeback. Not looking to hang refs, just looking for value for money. refs judging refs, leagues judging refs..........clubs not! The clubs are being screwed from every direction and Im not gonna to let anyone drive my club into the ground without one hell of a battle.

Onefootednopace

02/06/2011, 12:43 PM

:ball: Congratulations to all the clubs who won Leagues & Cups during the season and especially to the posters on here whose clubs were successful after what was a long season. It's June and there are still Cups to be played for !! :ball:

From a Killowen point of view it was an up and down season for us. The positives included improving our points tally in the league and reaching the Q-finals of the Corinthians Cup, but a slump in form between October and December saw us slip towards the wrong end of the table. Thankfully we got back on track in the new year but there's still plenty room for improvement. Off the pitch we have a very dedicated committee that keep the club functioning which is a hard task in these times.
We have a new manager appointed for next season, Seamus Ring, who was involved in a coaching role last season and also registered as a player for the latter part of the season. Seamus has wasted no time since his appointment and is busy planning for the upcoming season.

MainManRam

02/06/2011, 1:09 PM

Just to say well done to all the lads down in Springers. Another wonderful season and epic league win. Good cup runs without success led to a difficult run in but a great success in the end.
A special Congrats should go to the referees who clawed back the twenty point deficit and went on a wonderful run and only lost a handful of league games in 3 successive seasons.
It's a pity the brilliant run by all the lads had to be over shadowed on here by people giving out about refs decisions and off field antics. The lads put together a wonderful run of results and given that they had to play 3 games a week I think it was a superb achievement. People can talk about Tue games that were not played but they should think of Springers win percentage which would indicate that they may have won these games anyway.
So well done again Springers next year will be tough but with a few more additions the lads should see themselves well safe.

Horse24

02/06/2011, 3:05 PM

Well said. Players win games

Glenbuck

02/06/2011, 4:32 PM

Word on the street that Fairview might lose points. Sad if it transpires.Looks like the word on the street was right. Like I said then. Sad.

thebooboys

03/06/2011, 7:28 AM

Good luck to Leeside B in County Cup Final tonight.

Shilts

03/06/2011, 10:35 AM

Congrats to Springers on their win.

As regards the points being given out for the game in Monard - it only emphasises the respect that teams should give to the other teams in their league.
Teams have to ensure that they give their best on and off the pitch throughout the season to ensure a fair league.
Nobody can have any complaints then.
As a group we all need to learn from these type of incidents and if each club makes a small improvement then the league will benefit.
If we don't bother making any improvements then we will go backwards as a group.

I didn't see the pitch in Monard so I'm not going to judge anyone on this incident.
Also, sh1t happens sometimes and mistakes can be made - we will all put up our hands and admit to making cockups at some stage

Horse24

03/06/2011, 11:39 AM

The difference in this case at Monard is that only one person of the 30 people there and others who saw it afterwards thought it was unplayable. The pitch was not perfect but it WAS PLAYABLE. Nobody should have that power, and there was a chance afterwards to rectify and the AUL didnt. This person is involved in way too many controversies now over the last number of years. Someone has to stop it.

Its done now - Lets keep Monard out of the conversation discussing Springfields league win. They wanted to play and it is unfair that there is a link to their league win. I, for one, thought their April/May schedule would have been too much for them but they delivered and won their league.