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davey
10/06/2010, 8:27 PM
Ok - hearing 2 schools of thought on this.

Ash - ling

Ash - lean
Have heard both pronunciations

Would be grateful if an Irish speaker could give me the correct one. The internet is giving me conflicting answers - anybody have anything definitive?

SkStu
10/06/2010, 8:39 PM
its my sisters name.

the first one would certainly be the most common Davey - ash-ling. With certain dialects or accents it might sometimes just sound like ashlean.

a variation, aislinn, is prnounced ash-linn or ash-lean

passinginterest
10/06/2010, 9:37 PM
It's also the girlfriends name and most definitely pronounced Ash-Ling, a lot of people would tend to lean towards ash-lynn too haven't heard ash-lean very often.

awec
10/06/2010, 9:44 PM
Ashling.

osarusan
10/06/2010, 10:08 PM
ashling.

strangeirish
10/06/2010, 10:18 PM
Kevin

Dunny
10/06/2010, 10:33 PM
Ashling

tetsujin1979
10/06/2010, 11:29 PM
Atari Jaguar.
Wait, wrong forum. Sorry.

davey
12/06/2010, 10:29 PM
Thanks for replies. Wife is expecting and Aisling was a favoured name. Have ruled it out now as can't be bothered with names that people disagree on pronunciation. Had it already with Caoimhe. Kee-va or quee-va !!!

awec
13/06/2010, 1:03 AM
When it doubt, just call her Bruce. Noone is ever going to mispronounce that.

Acornvilla
13/06/2010, 11:24 PM
my friend caoimhe pronounces it kee-fa

tetsujin1979
13/06/2010, 11:42 PM
I pronounce it Kwee-vah
Actually, that makes it looks like a Klingon swear word!

KevB76
17/06/2010, 12:22 PM
Thanks for replies. Wife is expecting and Aisling was a favoured name. Have ruled it out now as can't be bothered with names that people disagree on pronunciation. Had it already with Caoimhe. Kee-va or quee-va !!!

My neice Caoimhe is pronounced Kee-va but every other Caoimhe I know is pronounced kwee-va.
Also my cousin Aisling is pronounced Ashling.
If you really like the name I dont think you should be put off by alternative pronunciations, everyone will finish up calling her Ash anyway!

OneRedArmy
17/06/2010, 12:28 PM
Its the vagaries of regional Irish pronuniciation. In the Donegal gaeltacht or general Nordy pronuniciation, its most definitely Ash-Lean.

Just don't move to the UK. I worked with someone called Sile Brid in London and she was known as Silly Bird. As for Siobhan and Sadhbh, god help us......

pineapple stu
17/06/2010, 12:42 PM
For Caoimhe, try pronounce each of the vowels all rolled into one sound.

Kee-fa and Kee-va are just wrong. Kwee-va's not a bad approximation, although still not entirely correct (in the same way as the Irish speaking area of the country isn't the Gwayl-tacht).

SkStu
17/06/2010, 3:46 PM
Its the vagaries of regional Irish pronuniciation. In the Donegal gaeltacht or general Nordy pronuniciation, its most definitely Ash-Lean.

Just don't move to the UK. I worked with someone called Sile Brid in London and she was known as Silly Bird. As for Siobhan and Sadhbh, god help us......

my cailin ;) always had a laugh at Siobhan (Syoban), Roisin (Raisin), Aoife (Ayoeefee) and Grainne (Grainy). I told her she was dead right in her pronunciation. :)

davey
26/06/2010, 8:26 PM
ok - What about Laoise as a name. Leesh-a ? Have you heard the name often ?

SkStu
28/06/2010, 5:42 PM
ok - What about Laoise as a name. Leesh-a ? Have you heard the name often ?

dont think ive ever heard that one - Naoise, yes and Saoirse also but not Laoise.

Burny89
28/06/2010, 7:25 PM
Laoiseach - Leesha

awec
28/06/2010, 10:59 PM
ok - What about Laoise as a name. Leesh-a ? Have you heard the name often ?
Laois is Leesh, like the popular tourist destination county. Does the e change it?

John83
28/06/2010, 11:16 PM
Laois is Leesh, like the popular tourist destination county. Does the e change it?
It does in Naoise (Nee-sheh). Or at least, it did in the case of the one Naoise I can recall having met.

pineapple stu
29/06/2010, 8:54 AM
Yeah, it'd be Laoi-shuh. Not Leesha. And again, you're looking to roll the aoi diphthong into one rolling sound rather than dismiss it is an ee.

Laois in English is Leesh. It's correct in the way DĂșn Laoghaire is Dun Leary. (Just seeing as we're getting into technically correct pronunciation).

seand
29/06/2010, 10:25 AM
Definitely Ashling! I'd say Caoimhe is somewhere between Keeva and Queeva (three-quarters the way to Queeva), likewise I'd say my son's name Eoghan is about 1 and a bit syllables! It's not Ow-en, it's not Own but somewhere in between.

I've been called Seen before, and I know a Sadhbh who was memorably called Sad-huh-buh-huh once!

awec
29/06/2010, 5:51 PM
Hope is seand pronouned?

John83
29/06/2010, 6:19 PM
Hope is seand pronouned?
seand is already pronouned as seand, not "Hope". Imagine seand referring to himself as Hope? It's a girl's name, for heaven's sake.

awec
29/06/2010, 8:12 PM
Don't know why I typed Hope instead of how.

Also, I reckon that I've made a mistake and his name is actually Sean D instead of Seand. Houl on while I go fetch my embarassased face! :D

Kingdom
29/06/2010, 9:25 PM
Davey, I work with a girl called Laoise, and she and we pronounce it Laois-eh. Beautiful name.

seand
30/06/2010, 10:10 AM
To clarfiy, I'm Sean D, pronounced Shaun Dee!

tetsujin1979
30/06/2010, 11:12 AM
To clarfiy, I'm Sean D, pronounced Shaun Dee!
really? I've been pronouncing it sean'd, as in "you just got sean'd!"

KevB76
01/07/2010, 12:17 PM
my cailin ;) always had a laugh at Siobhan (Syoban), Roisin (Raisin), Aoife (Ayoeefee) and Grainne (Grainy). I told her she was dead right in her pronunciation. :)

I've heard Chow-me for Caoimhe, not a bad stab at it I thought, taking the Italian approach !

Den Perry
01/07/2010, 1:19 PM
Ask George Hamilton. He seems to be an expert and pronounces names differently from all others

eg Pedros Mendes is pronounced "mendesh" by georges
alves is "alvesh"
Jaap Stam was "Stum"

I'm not saying he's wrong......

passinginterest
01/07/2010, 1:34 PM
Hamilton was asked about this a few times and he said he always trys to find a member of the team's back room staff or someone from their country to give him the correct pronunciations, that seems to account for why he can often differ so much from other commentators.

I'd try to find a quote to back this up but I'm feeling a bit lazy. I may come back with it later.

pineapple stu
01/07/2010, 1:58 PM
Yeah, I heard him say that as well alright.

stann
01/07/2010, 2:55 PM
Hamilton famously goes the extra mile to get the proper pronunciations alright, he's spoken about it before, and by all accounts he's invariably got the correct one.
Which kind of leads me to the slightly depressing thought that's there's not a single foreign back-room person or journalist out there with a sense of humour.