Waterford United v Limerick 9/4/10

[Iorfa2MaccaJim]

Hi lads.

I'm really looking forward to our game against ye on Friday. What sort of crowd will ye bring down ?

[bluepowers]

hopefully a good few we always get a crowd in waterford

[Monkfish]

Limerick 4/1 in Paddypickpockets.

[sean r]

do you think we will do a "cork" in waterford? another wonderful preformance by the super blues( waterford i mean)

[Bluebeard]

do you think we will do a "cork" in waterford? another wonderful preformance by the super blues( waterford i mean)

Do you mean bleat about how great we are and how we have the biggest support and how great we are while not winning that much silver while a rogue chairman just spends, spends, spends foolishly and hires a succession of managerial hatchet men, before stopping bothering to pay debts and employees, then spectacularly imploding and needing to get bailed out of trouble by the FAI, or win impressively against Limerick?

I think I'd prefer the second, though I doubt it would be as easy as the first;)

[bluepowers]

limerick 1-0 wwwwwaterford

[abbeyvale]

limerick 1-0 wwwwwaterford

I think a draw is the best we could hope for TBH. I'd take any sort of draw.

[bluewhitearmy]

2 or 3 nil Waterford.

[joeSoap]

I see Waterford have signed George O'Callaghan. Can any Waterford fans say if he goes straight into their team for tonight?

[limunlim]

I see Waterford have signed George O'Callaghan. Can any Waterford fans say if he goes straight into their team for tonight?

I hope not! He is a good player. I would gladly take a draw but I just can't see it. 3-1 Waterford.

[thomas72]

beaten 2-1

another loss derry, cork, waterford only 7 games played midtable all the way nothing more.
the wait for promotion goes on limerick need to stop signing junior players junior players will not get you out of divsion 1 of LOI football.
the crowds at jackman will drop to 150 200 within a month nobody will pay £10 to see average players.
as everybody knows people will only follow a successful team club needs to change there policy in signing local players its plain to see for the last few years its not working

[LK37oldskool]

You know what Thomas72 i fully agree with you on this.The current squad will never get promoted.Already Waterford are out of sight and we're only 7 games in.Another mediocore season ahead.Pitiful !

[Jofspring]

I agree, we need more of a mix of local talent and experienced LOI players. If we don't act soon we will be mid-table and very inconsistent for the rest of the season. I wasn't at the match tonight and some people might come back and say we deserved more out of it or could have lost by more i don't know. At the end of the day though all people see is the results and going by them we haven't improved one bit in the last couple of years. I'd also like to point out i wasn't expecting anything from the match tonight but we are already being showed up by the better teams.

[connie]

[QUOTE=Jofspring;1345062]I agree, we need more of a mix of local talent and experienced LOI players. If we don't act soon we will be mid-table and very inconsistent for the rest of the season. I wasn't at the match tonight and some people might come back and say we deserved more out of it or could have lost by more i don't know. At the end of the day though all people see is the results and going by them we haven't improved one bit in the last couple of years. I'd also like to point out i wasn't expecting anything from the match tonight but we are already being showed up by the better teams.[/QUOT
I Watched waterford v Cork and they beat cork handy, waterford are a very good side, this year is stronger than most with cork, derry,waterford,shels all good sides. Tierney,lyons,hughes,deedy,and Clark who will score goals at any level are all very young, its early days yet 2 or 3 wins and they are back in it.

[Jofspring]

I Watched waterford v Cork and they beat cork handy, waterford are a very good side, this year is stronger than most with cork, derry,waterford,shels all good sides. Tierney,lyons,hughes,deedy,and Clark who will score goals at any level are all very young, its early days yet 2 or 3 wins and they are back in it.

We seem to be saying this every year though. I agree some of the players are young and need time but they need some experienced heads to help them too.

[fieldofmarkets]

Went to the game tonight, gutted with the result. Penalty awarded 5 mins from time. The ref had waved play on but the linesman called it back after the ball had been cleared. Didn't see the actual incident clearly...seamed like one that could be given or not given, but when the ref waves it on you don't expect the linesman to call it back. Walked out feeling we were robbed. Limerick had a couple of other chances that should have been buried but had good blocks on the line. JT almost scored what would have been a great goal, back flicking a low cross after great work from Clarke but was unlucky to have it saved. Waterford should have scored at least one more also though, we still look a little less than solid at the back despite the changes this week but an improvement overall and it will get better with some games.

It was very hard to see the difference between us and Waterford...except for the table obviously. Our performance was a lot better this week, we are an awful lot better than our current league position I think. Just hope these tough losses to Derry, Cork & now Waterford don't wear on the team too much and they keep the heads up. Results are results though and crowds will be down I'm afraid.

Not sure about Scully's tactic of 3 in midfield...we practically conceeded all the loose ball in that area tonight. Should have brought Robbie on earlier too. Decent performance, Waterford did have more posession but we could have won the game and if not for the dodgy penalty call would have got out of there with a very credible draw.

[bluewhitearmy]

Went to the game tonight, gutted with the result. Penalty awarded 5 mins from time. The ref had waved play on but the linesman called it back after the ball had been cleared. Didn't see the actual incident clearly...seamed like one that could be given or not given, but when the ref waves it on you don't expect the linesman to call it back. Walked out feeling we were robbed. Limerick had a couple of other chances that should have been buried but had good blocks on the line. JT almost scored what would have been a great goal, back flicking a low cross after great work from Clarke but was unlucky to have it saved. Waterford should have scored at least one more also though, we still look a little less than solid at the back despite the changes this week but an improvement overall and it will get better with some games.

It was very hard to see the difference between us and Waterford...except for the table obviously. Our performance was a lot better this week, we are an awful lot better than our current league position I think. Just hope these tough losses to Derry, Cork & now Waterford don't wear on the team too much and they keep the heads up. Results are results though and crowds will be down I'm afraid.

Not sure about Scully's tactic of 3 in midfield...we practically conceeded all the loose ball in that area tonight. Should have brought Robbie on earlier too. Decent performance, Waterford did have more posession but we could have won the game and if not for the dodgy penalty call would have got out of there with a very credible draw.


Was def a pen id worry more about Tracy letting Waterford walk the ball into the box in the build up to the pen then the linesman doing his job.
How Tracy stayed on for the full 90 i dont know what does Robbie need to do to get a start.

[bluewhitearmy]

Starting to believe it. He will get a start now in the Cobh game id say. Should have come on way earlier today . Look at our bench tonight shows how weak we are.

[bluewhitearmy]

beaten 2-1

another loss derry, cork, waterford only 7 games played midtable all the way nothing more.
the wait for promotion goes on limerick need to stop signing junior players junior players will not get you out of divsion 1 of LOI football.
the crowds at jackman will drop to 150 200 within a month nobody will pay £10 to see average players.
as everybody knows people will only follow a successful team club needs to change there policy in signing local players its plain to see for the last few years its not working

Spot on.

[fieldofmarkets]

Was def a pen id worry more about Tracy letting Waterford walk the ball into the box in the build up to the pen then the linesman doing his job.
How Tracy stayed on for the full 90 i dont know what does Robbie need to do to get a start.

Fair enough if it was a penalty.

I have to assume there's some issue with 90mins for Robbie....going by his play when he is on, he has to start. Maybe we'll see him next week.

[bluewhitearmy]

Fair enough if it was a penalty.

I have to assume there's some issue with 90mins for Robbie....going by his play when he is on, he has to start. Maybe we'll see him next week.

Even if Rob had to come off after an hour he would do more then some of them out there.

[bluewhitearmy]

for sure he'll start in the cobh game thats all scully will do with robbie start him in matches like that and let him sit on the bench in big matches untill near the end of matches to come on

Scully needs to get things together or questions should be asked.

[bluewhitearmy]

Could be 6 points behind play-offs already by tomorrow.

[sean r]

who was limerick's best player tonight?

[the dazzler]

tracey+boyle are shocking no way loi players:angry3:

[Monkfish]

who was limerick's best player tonight?

JT once again.

Decent performance it has to be said, but the same 3/4 players who are not up to it let us down again. Cant really comment on the peno as I was well away from it, ref didnt give it but linesman did. Now to be fair, the ref was ok tonight, some poor calls but they went both ways (dont mind that) but the linesman were shockingly bad.

Deserved a draw.

[thomas72]

how long more will JT be with limerick some top clubs will be looking at him he has it all young pace good skill very good finisher.
mark my words he wont be with limerick in midtable of division 1 much longer

[bluewhitearmy]

both players been played out of their natural positions

Tracy isn't out of position.

[FairBall]

i hate to say this but if results keep going like this people will stay away and i can see scully walking before been pushed

Scully needs to get things together or questions should be asked.

three of the main teams we've lost to derry,cork,waterford hope we don't lose to shels

I dont think theres any more Pat Scully can do with the squad he has. A change of manager would make no difference. Better players are needed at the club, not Limerick Junior players or squad players from other average teams but players who are just back from playing in England and maybe loan players from top division teams who are premier standard. Unfortunately its very hard to entice these types of players to Limerick FC and also there is the issue of money. At the moment the money is being put into other areas and Scully has to work with the squad he has. There is no question the club has made improvements over the last year or two but people cant keep expecting instant success. Its not a cleche, its very much the way the club is at the moment. We arent as good as those other top four teams you've mentioned yet and we wont be untill the money can be pumped into the squad where we will need to sign at least 5 top players.

[bluewhitearmy]

I dont think theres any more Pat Scully can do with the squad he has. A change of manager would make no difference. Better players are needed at the club, not Limerick Junior players or squad players from other average teams but players who are just back from playing in England and maybe loan players from top division teams who are premier standard. Unfortunately its very hard to entice these types of players to Limerick FC and also there is the issue of money. At the moment the money is being put into other areas and Scully has to work with the squad he has. There is no question the club has made improvements over the last year or two but people cant keep expecting instant success. Its not a cleche, its very much the way the club is at the moment. We arent as good as those other top four teams you've mentioned yet and we wont be untill the money can be pumped into the squad where we will need to sign at least 5 top players.

Who put that squad together not Scully?
He could have got better players and he had the money to do it the budget went up from last year.
Instant success 15 years in 1st division whats so instant about that?

[Xile]

If you think about it lads, Waterford weren't anything spectacular last night, so its really up to us. For most the first half they just booted the ball up the field, when they started passing it started to work for them - And thus we scored, so its more of that, that we need, but as was pointed out on the bus, Waterford always had a free man. And if you look at Deedy, he had to cover two of 'em like.

[FairBall]

Who put that squad together not Scully?
He could have got better players and he had the money to do it the budget went up from last year.
Instant success 15 years in 1st division whats so instant about that?

He isnt in the job 15 years though is he? Instant success is obviously a reference to what he's going to achieve! He inherited a squad and made changes to it as best he could when there was no money at the club and like i said before the money thats there now isnt been put into the squad...very little of it is, thats why he has to fish players from the junior league.

[sean r]

how much did it cost to put in the new seats into jackman? could that money be used to sign quality players instead of putting money into a ground that limerick dont own?

[bluewhitearmy]

Awful excuse and as i said his budget went up the money he had to spend on a squad went up from last year thats a fact the money was there he just didnt get the right people simple. He inherited a squad? He took over after 4 games of last year after June it was his squad. His squad are not good enough and thats no-one but his fault.

Limerick didn't pay for the seats LDMC did.

[Monkfish]

how much did it cost to put in the new seats into jackman? could that money be used to sign quality players instead of putting money into a ground that limerick dont own?

Oh dear, dont we look silly.

[deiseach]

Limerick were Waterford's equal last night, it could just as easily have been Limerick getting a late penalty - there were two occasions when a Limerick player had a shot through a crowd of players that could have gone straight in / deflected in / been handled. Waterford weren't as good as they were against Derry though. The question for Limerick is whether they have another level

[FairBall]

Awful excuse and as i said his budget went up the money he had to spend on a squad went up from last year thats a fact the money was there he just didnt get the right people simple. He inherited a squad? He took over after 4 games of last year after June it was his squad. His squad are not good enough and thats no-one but his fault.

Limerick didn't pay for the seats LDMC did.

Its not excuses, i just think its easy for you to blame him without being aware of all the facts. He did take over a team and got rid of players like Paul Dannaher etc. who isnt even good enough for Mervue(with no disrespect to them) and brought in what he could at the time. Can you please tell me, what sort of money you think is available to him that he is spending so badly and do you think it is easy to get players to play for us seen as we havent much to boast about at the club? You just seem to be repeating yourself about the budget and dont even offer a suggesting as to what exactly you would like to be seen done with it. There are plenty of other overheads in the club and there will need to be money available for a move into our own stadium if that goes ahead, and there is the running of the Sean Choill facility in Corbally which we are running and it wasnt so long ago money was made available to built out in Knocklasheen. There isnt that bottomless pit of money or a big 'BUDGET' like your suggesting. Our finances have improved but not enough for a revamp of the current squad, that will take a while.

[bluewhitearmy]

Its not excuses, i just think its easy for you to blame him without being aware of all the facts. He did take over a team and got rid of players like Paul Dannaher etc. who isnt even good enough for Mervue(with no disrespect to them) and brought in what he could at the time. Can you please tell me, what sort of money you think is available to him that he is spending so badly and do you think it is easy to get players to play for us seen as we havent much to boast about at the club? You just seem to be repeating yourself about the budget and dont even offer a suggesting as to what exactly you would like to be seen done with it. There are plenty of other overheads in the club and there will need to be money available for a move into our own stadium if that goes ahead. There isnt that bottomless pit of money or a big 'BUDGET' like your suggesting. Our finances have improved but not enough for a revamp of the current squad.

You talk of facts but yet you get the 1st thing you say wrong Mervue wanted to keep Paul but couldn't afford to. I know around what figure the budget s and u know players we turned away that wanted to lay for us. Its well known that the playing budget went up this year the club said it themselves at the start of the year so what more proof do you want? You talk as if im making it up when id say i know way more of whats going on in the club then you do i even tipped the club off to sign 1 of the players that hey did bring in theres a FACT.

[FairBall]

You talk of facts but yet you get the 1st thing you say wrong Mervue wanted to keep Paul but couldn't afford to. I know around what figure the budget s and u know players we turned away that wanted to lay for us. Its well known that the playing budget went up this year the club said it themselves at the start of the year so what more proof do you want? You talk as if im making it up when id say i know way more of whats going on in the club then you do i even tipped the club off to sign 1 of the players that hey did bring in theres a FACT.

I dint get anything iv said wrong...I said he wasnt good enough for Mervue...theres players we'll keep in the team that aren't good enough for us as well but we still sign them back. What i am trying to say to you is that the amount of money available isnt enough to get a load of better players and its not only that, its not a very attractive club to play for at the moment compared to others. You must be proud of your scouting skills but thats not what im debating here so no need to take this personally. Pat Scully is obviosly doing the best possible with the money etc allocated to him so im simply saying take a moment to look at the whole picture. Its not a game of Championship Manager where you can just pick whatever player you want to play for you. I think we should drop this conversation anyway, I get where your coming from, I hope you can also accept my points.

[bluewhitearmy]

I dint get anything iv said wrong...I said he wasnt good enough for Mervue...theres players we'll keep in the team that aren't good enough for us as well but we still sign them back. What i am trying to say to you is that the amount of money available isnt enough to get a load of better players and its not only that, its not a very attractive club to play for at the moment compared to others. You must be proud of your scouting skills but thats not what im debating here so no need to take this personally. Pat Scully is obviosly doing the best possible with the money etc allocated to him so im simply saying take a moment to look at the whole picture. Its not a game of Championship Manager where you can just pick whatever player you want to play for you. I think we should drop this conversation anyway, I get where your coming from, I hope you can also accept my points.

I do accept your points but all i'm saying is our bench last night was Boyle Roche Cahill Kelliher McGuiness there are Junior players around better then some of them. I don't expect massive big name signings or anything like that but at least have people as back up that are up to LOI level.

[bluewhitearmy]

A lot of improvements off the pitch in fairness but will that just be wasted if they don't do it on the pitch and they receive no support.

[LK37oldskool]

A lot of improvements off the pitch in fairness but will that just be wasted if they don't do it on the pitch and they receive no support.
I'm afraid its begining to look like that now.

[see's it]

I'm afraid its begining to look like that now.

what was the team friday?

[bluewhitearmy]

Ryan,Kelly;Stanley,White,Deady,Hughes,Judge,Tracy, Kav,Tierney,Clarke( Kelliher 73).

Subs not used: Boyle, McGuiness, Roche, Cahill.

[Monkfish]

Looking at limerick at the moment is a joke something has to be done,.

Can you explain what exactly is a joke?
:confused:

[KevB76]

who was limerick's best player tonight?


JT once again.


Shane Clarke impressed as well with his work rate, he tracked back and nicked the ball off Waterford plyers numerous times.
Also Nicel Stanley played well in what I think was his first competitive outing for the senior squad this season.

[Lim till i die]

Its not a game of Championship Manager where you can just pick whatever player you want to play for you

In my current Football Manager game (it's 2011) Pat Scully has just led Limerick to an FAI cup victory after a replay against Sporting Fingal.

Came third in the First Division, beat Kildare County (:p) in the First Division play off and have just won the playoff final, again against Fingal, EIGHT-ONE on aggregate. :D

His team is full of English players and Nordies though. :(

[LK37oldskool]

How the hell did you get english players to come to Limerick? have you been tweaking with the game editor?

[Lim till i die]

How the hell did you get english players to come to Limerick? have you been tweaking with the game editor?

I fiddled with the editor a tiny bit before I started but only because the LoI is an absolute mess in it, there was nothing unfair done I assure you!!

Oh and it was Pat Scully who did it not me, I'm currently managing AEK Athens after a season of unprecedented success at Fleetwood Town :cool:

The Limerick Legends who defeated Sporting Fingal 3-2 in the 2011 FAI Cup final replay:

Graham Donnellan
Scott Metcalfe
Thomas Lambe
Pat Purcell
Harry Hogarth
Ricky Holmes
Anthony Tynan
Wayne Colbert
Mark Magennis
Andy Scott
James Grady

SUBS Used:
Conor Molan
Seamus Fanthorpe
Lee Matthews

As you can see, by English and Nordies I meant the cast offs and scrapings of the lower leagues. Quite an achievement by Pat Scully whom this game proves is surely one of the greatest tactical minds of our time. :D