All time Irish XI's from one club?

[third policeman]

There was a programme on Liverpool FCTV on St Patrick's Day with John Aldridge picking an all time
Irish Liverpool team. It was

Elisha Scott (a bit ancient and before the IFA / FAI split)

Finnan
Staunton
Lawrenson
Beglin

Houghton
Whelan
McAteer
Heighway

Aldridge
Keane

(strangely Michael Robisnon and Ken de Mange not included) Could any other club side put out a better all Irish selection that this?

[DeLorean]

A quick Man United effort:-

Gregg

O'Shea
Moran
McGrath
Irwin

Best
Keane
Giles
Daly

Whiteside
Stapleton

Would be a bit patchy without the N.I. guys. Don't think there's ever been a Republic GK at United?

[third policeman]

A quick Man United effort:-

Gregg

O'Shea
Moran
McGrath
Irwin

Best
Keane
Giles
Daly

Whiteside
Stapleton

Would be a bit batchy without the N.I. guys. Don't think there's ever been a Republic GK at United?


Paddy Roche had a short and disasterous Utd career. take your point about the Nordies. Ashley Grimes, Mick Martin, Liam O'Brien and Liam Miller not really adequate replacements for Best and Whiteside.

[tetsujin1979]

Don't think there's ever been a Republic GK at United?
There was that time John O'Shea went in goals and saved from Robbie Keane ;)

[theworm2345]

No goalkeeper, and not the strongest side in the world, but all of these players have been capped

Wolves:


X

Foley
Mark Clyde (NI, but I'm struggling at this point...if Ward ever gets capped he can play here)
Breen
Irwin

Keogh
Gibson (sub: Potter)
Andrews (sub: Gleeson)
Kennedy

David Kelly (sub: Doyle)
Robbie Keane (sub: Connolly)

More subs could be Stephen Elliott, Dominic Foley, Glen Crowe

Manager: Mick McCarthy

[Top Drawer]

Would be a bit patchy without the N.I. guys. Don't think there's ever been a Republic GK at United?

see here (http://www.soccerscene.ie/sssenior/player.php?id=151) - Pat Dunne played in goal for United and has 5 caps

[Gather round]

No goalkeeper, and not the strongest side in the world, but all of these players have been capped

Wolves:
Mark Clyde (NI, but I'm struggling at this point...if Ward ever gets capped he can play here)


Mark Clyde is now playing for Worcester City. Here, he winds down post-match with the Berkshire NISC:

http://s920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/FloreatUltonia/Maidenhead%20v%20Worcester/100_1414.jpg

[EastTerracer]

Paddy Roche had a short and disasterous Utd career. take your point about the Nordies. Ashley Grimes, Mick Martin, Liam O'Brien and Liam Miller not really adequate replacements for Best and Whiteside.

Paddy's career at United wasn't that short - he was there for 8 years (1973 to 1982) but was a perpetual benchwarmer serving as backup to Alex Stepney and Gary Bailey. He did play 46 league games for United but that was in the days when you had a good squad of 13 or 14 players and once someone got injured you had to make do with some pretty average replacements. Roche subsequently played in the lower divisions for a number of years with Brentford and Halifax.

8 caps for Ireland but this was in the days of Mick Kearns as well. Imagine the time when we were thrilled to get Seamus McDonagh. We have been very lucky in the last 22 years to have had Packie (despite his faults), Alan Kelly and Shay.

[EastTerracer]

Celtic could put together an average Republic of Ireland team and a slightly stronger all-Ireland one.

Republic of Ireland (3-4-3)

Bonner

Morris
McCarthy
Pierce O'Leary

McGeady
Roy Keane
Miller
Healy

Coyne
Cascarino
Robbie Keane

For an All-Ireland team I'd just inlcude Anton Rogan, Neil Lennon and Charlie Tully instead of O'Leary, Miller and Healy.

[EastTerracer]

You have me on a roll now - how about Birmingham City?


Seamus McDonagh

Stephen Carr
Gary Breen
Kenny Cunningham
Dave Langan

Gerry Daly
Lee Carsley
Keith Fahey
John Sheridan (2 appearances on loan)

Don Givens
Clinton Morrison

[Paddy Garcia]

Coventry - Daly, Breen & Morrison again!

Westwood

J Holmes
Babb
Daish
Breen

Bolland
Daly
Grimes
Sheridan

R Keane
C Morrison

... not better than Liverpool of course

[fu1ham]

Fulham

Peyton
Finnan
John Dempsey
Stephen Kelly
Terry Phelan
Houghton
Jimmy Dunne
Duff
Conway
Best
Healy

Had to borrow a couple of Nordies there, but not bad.

[EastTerracer]

Tottenham (with Pat Jennings in goal and 5 full-backs in defence due to no other options)

Jennings

S. Kelly
J. Holmes
J. Kinnear
C. Hughton
S. Carr

Johnny Gavin (1955)
A. Reid
T. Galvin

R. Keane
G. Doherty

[theworm2345]

Sunderland

Given

Hurley (alt: Babb) Its three centre halves but I can't decide.
Breen
Cunningham
Harte

Kilbane
Andy Reid (alt: Delap)
Kavanagh
McAteer (alt: Lawrence)

Quinn (alt: David Kelly)
Connolly (alt: John Byrne)


Subs galore Daryl Murphy, Stephen Elliott, Stokes, Liam Miller, Paul Butler, Colin Healy, Paul McShane, Alan Quinn

Manager: Mick McCarthy

(that's like half the 2002 squad)

B Team:

Colgan

Butler
McShane
Babb
Delap (needed another defender or he would be in midfield)

Colin Healy
Alan Quinn
Liam Miller
Lawrence

David Kelly (alt: Daryl Murphy)
John Byrne (alt: Elliott/Stokes)

B Team Manager: Roy Keane

[theworm2345]

Newcastle

Given

Carr
Andy O'Brien
John Anderson

Duff
Liam O'Brien (alt: Alan O'Brien)
Mick Martin
Sheedy
Tuohy (him and Sheedy can switch off)

David Kelly
Best

Manager: Joe Kinnear/Chris Hughton

I admit I needed some help on this one, started falling asleep

[endabob1]

Tottenham (with Pat Jennings in goal and 5 full-backs in defence due to no other options)

Jennings

S. Kelly
J. Holmes
J. Kinnear
C. Hughton
S. Carr

Johnny Gavin (1955)
A. Reid
T. Galvin

R. Keane
G. Doherty

If you can include Jennings in goal you can play Blanchflower and Gerry Armstrong as well

so with a still slightly unbalanced back 4


Jennings

S. Carr
G. Doherty
J. Kinnear
C. Hughton


Johnny Gavin (Never heard of him before today!)
D. Blanchflower
A. Reid
T. Galvin

R. Keane
G. Armstrong

[tetsujin1979]

Man City:
Given

Greg Cunningham
Dunne
Kernaghan
Phelan

Kennedy
Whelan
Ireland
Flood

Quinn
Elliott (again!)

bit of a stretch including Greg, you could move Kennedy to left full and play Kevin Horlock on the left

[Top Drawer]

Shamrock Rovers



Goodwin

Clarke
Mulligan
O’Leary
Mackey

O Neill
J Fullam
Giles
Coad

Leech
Tuohy

Subs:
Pat Byrne
Tommy Hamilton
Lawlor
Bailham
Duffy
Synott
Ronnie Nolan
Noel Peyton

and I am sure there are a lot more

[third policeman]

Celtic could put together an average Republic of Ireland team and a slightly stronger all-Ireland one.

Republic of Ireland (3-4-3)

Bonner

Morris
McCarthy
Pierce O'Leary

McGeady
Roy Keane
Miller
Healy

Coyne
Cascarino
Robbie Keane

For an All-Ireland team I'd just inlcude Anton Rogan, Neil Lennon and Charlie Tully instead of O'Leary, Miller and Healy.


Charlie Gallagher is an often neglected Irish international at Celtic as he only got two caps, and maybe the best Nordie to play for them would be Bertie Peacock?

[EastTerracer]

Everton

Seamus McDonagh

Terry Phelan
Mick Meagan
Richard Dunne
Peter Farrell

Lee Carsley
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Sheedy
Tommy Eglinton

Mickey Walsh
Eamon O'Keefe

Sub. Peter Corr


All capped while playing for Everton (Seamus Coleman and Shane Duffy may well be in there soon).

[EastTerracer]

Charlie Gallagher is an often neglected Irish international at Celtic as he only got two caps, and maybe the best Nordie to play for them would be Bertie Peacock?

You're absolutely right and Charlie was also one of the first players to take advantage of the parentage rule to play for Ireland. I think Shay Brennan may have been the first and Charlie Gallagher was just a couple of years later.

He was a member of the 1966/1967 Celtic squad that won every competition it entered but he wasn't quite in the frame for the European Cup Final in Lisbon.

[tetsujin1979]

I think Shay Brennan may have been the firstAccording to his wikipedia entry, he was
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shay_Brennan

Despite being born in Manchester, England, he played internationally for the Republic of Ireland, qualifying through his parentage, the first Irish international to qualify in this way.

[Top Drawer]

Johnny Gavin (Never heard of him before today!)

See here (http://www.soccerscene.ie/sssenior/player.php?id=133)

[OwlsFan]

Sheffield Wednesday XI

1. ???
2. Chris Morris
3. Derek Geary
4. Alex Bruce (loan)
5. Graham Coughlan
6. Glen Whelan
7. Alan Quinn
8. John Sheridan
9. Graham Barrett
10. Barry Corr
11. Tony Galvin

[endabob1]

See here (http://www.soccerscene.ie/sssenior/player.php?id=133)

Obituary on the Spurs site here
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/obituaryjohnnygavin.html

[SwanVsDalton]

Aston Villa
1. Wayne Henderson
2. Stephen O'Halloran
3. Steve Staunton
4. Richard Dunne
5. Paul McGrath
6. Andy Townsend
7. Ray Houghton
8. Mark Kinsella
9. Tony Cascarino
10. Alan Lee
11. Gareth Farelly

Could scrape together some subs with Pat Daly and Davy Walsh from decades back, Keith Fahey if he gets capped and Aaron Hughes and Jamie Ward stolen from the North. That's not a bad side, barring the diabolical front two.

[Bluebeard]

Aston Villa
1. Wayne Henderson
2. Stephen O'Halloran
3. Steve Staunton
4. Richard Dunne
5. Paul McGrath
6. Andy Townsend
7. Ray Houghton
8. Mark Kinsella
9. Tony Cascarino
10. Alan Lee
11. Gareth Farelly

Could scrape together some subs with Pat Daly and Davy Walsh from decades back, Keith Fahey if he gets capped and Aaron Hughes and Jamie Ward stolen from the North. That's not a bad side, barring the diabolical front two.

Wow, that is a shockingly recent team - Villa must be the most Irish Club in Britain in the past 20 years at this stage. You missed Dave O'Leary as manager, and apparently, Seamus McDonagh is a coach. Has O'Halloran played for Villa yet?

Another Villa sub could be Alfie Hale.

[theworm2345]

Wow, that is a shockingly recent team - Villa must be the most Irish Club in Britain in the past 20 years at this stage. You missed Dave O'Leary as manager, and apparently, Seamus McDonagh is a coach. Has O'Halloran played for Villa yet?
Another Villa sub could be Alfie Hale.
Nope, neither did Alan Lee or Wayne Henderson

[SwanVsDalton]

What we can't do on the books? Some of the references so far have been just as tenuous. And I'd rather not think about O'Leary, thanks all the same ;)

[EastTerracer]

Millwall

Graham Stack (uncapped)

Charlie Hurley
Mick McCarthy
Joe Haverty
Pat Saward

Dave Savage
Gary Waddock
Steven Reid
Eamon Dunphy (Millwall's most capped player !)

Tony Cascarino
Richard Sadlier

Sub: John Byrne

I would have included Mark Kennedy but I don't think he got a senior cap until after he moved to Liverpool.

[SkStu]

Sunderland (easiest id say)

Shay Given

Kevin Kilbane
Charlie Hurley
Paul McShane
Gary Breen

David Healy
Andy Reid
Daryl Murphy

Anthony Stokes
Niall Quinn
Stephen Elliott

Managed by Mick McCarthy, assisted by Roy Keane

owned by beanpole striker Niall Quinn

;) ;)

[Irish_Praha]

Nottingham Forest-

An abundence of quality MF players but not much up front or at the back so I had to go for a 3-1-4-1-1
With one of the midfielders (lennon) protecting the back 3 and another midfielder (Reid) playing in the hole between MF and the loan striker.
Had to take 4 of the players from N.I. too.
Sheridan, McPhail and Doyle were all loan players.

Colin Doyle

John Thompson-Gary Fleming-Liam O'Kane

Neil Lennon

Stephen McPhail-Roy Keane-John Sheridan- Martin O'Neill

Andy Reid

David Freeman

[EastTerracer]

Eamon Dunphy (Millwall's most capped player !)

I actually looked into this before but poor Eamon had an atrocious international record for Ireland:

Played 23 Won 1 Drew 5 and Lost 17.

To be fair, this was still in the era when the FAI selection committee picked the team and he wasn't out there alone but it does make you think.....

[Drumcondra 69er]

Leeds United

Con Martin (nearly said Mark Beeney, tenuous I know but was included in the World Cup 94 sticker album for some bizarre reason!)

Gary Kelly
Jim Beglin
Dave O'Leary
Ian Harte

Liam Miller
John Sheridan
John Giles
Jonathan Douglas
Stephen McPhail

Robbie Keane

Subs:
Michael Doyle
Ken DeMange
Paul Butler
Alan Maybury
Caleb Folan (never played first team though)

Manager would have to be O'Leary I guess! Or am I allowed Big Jack?? :)

Not a bad team, bit unbalanced though! Would have Folan up with Robbie had he played a first team game in place of Douglas or Miller in midfield.

Good thread!

[Razors left peg]

Very good thread !!

[gustavo]

Nottingham Forest-

An abundence of quality MF players but not much up front or at the back so I had to go for a 3-1-4-1-1
With one of the midfielders (lennon) protecting the back 3 and another midfielder (Reid) playing in the hole between MF and the loan striker.
Had to take 4 of the players from N.I. too.
Sheridan, McPhail and Doyle were all loan players.

Colin Doyle

John Thompson-Gary Fleming-Liam O'Kane

Neil Lennon

Stephen McPhail-Roy Keane-John Sheridan- Martin O'Neill

Andy Reid

David Freeman

You forgot Keith Foy :)

[EastTerracer]

Arsenal (3-4-3)

Stack (no capped goalkeeper for the Republic AFAIK)

Devine
O'Leary
Mancini

McGoldrick
Brady
Joe Haverty
Dr. Kevin O'Flanagan

Brady
Stapleton
Barrett

Subs: Stokes, O'Cearuill (both capped while still Arsenal players).

It seems to be a lack of goalkeepers that is keeping us back here.

[SkStu]

Spurs

Pat Jennings*

Chris Hughton
Joe Kinnear
Gary Doherty
Stephen Kelly

Stephen Carr
Andy Reid
Mark Yeates
Tony Galvin

Andy Turner
Robbie Keane

Subs: Neale Fenn, Terry Dixon

[EastTerracer]

Spurs

Pat Jennings*

Chris Hughton
Joe Kinnear
Gary Doherty
Stephen Kelly

Stephen Carr
Andy Reid
Mark Yeates
Tony Galvin

Andy Turner
Robbie Keane

Subs: Neale Fenn, Terry Dixon

I had a go at this earlier on page 1 - Jimmy Holmes and Johnny Gavin would have to get in ahead of the uncapped lads (Yeates, Turner, Fenn and Dixon).

I do remember way back in 1981 that there was a rumour that the then Spurs goalkeeper Milija Aleksic had some Irish connection but it never came to pass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milija_Aleksic

[Dunners]

Patsy Gallagher was a Celtic legend aka: The Mighty Atom
International Caps: 12 caps, plus one for Irish Free State

[tetsujin1979]

Was Gerry Peyton ever a substitute for Arsenal before taking over as their goalkeeping coach?

[bluesfan]

Arsenal (3-4-3)

Stack (no capped goalkeeper for the Republic AFAIK)

Devine
O'Leary
Mancini

McGoldrick
Brady
Joe Haverty
Dr. Kevin O'Flanagan

Brady
Stapleton
Barrett

Subs: Stokes, O'Cearuill (both capped while still Arsenal players).

It seems to be a lack of goalkeepers that is keeping us back here.

I was about to post a very similar team, would have had Niall Quinn up front with Stapleton though.

[EastTerracer]

I was about to post a very similar team, would have had Niall Quinn up front with Stapleton though.

I'm ashamed to admit that I forgot to include Quinn - would definitely have him in ahead of Graham Barrett.

[SkStu]

I had a go at this earlier on page 1 - Jimmy Holmes and Johnny Gavin would have to get in ahead of the uncapped lads (Yeates, Turner, Fenn and Dixon).

I do remember way back in 1981 that there was a rumour that the then Spurs goalkeeper Milija Aleksic had some Irish connection but it never came to pass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milija_Aleksic

sorry ET - totally missed that!

[EastTerracer]

More Irish in the West Midlands....

West Brom

Dean Kiely

Paul McShane
Kevin Kilbane
Mick Martin
Paddy Mulligan

John Giles
Tony Grealish
Mark Kinsella

Reg Ryan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reg_Ryan
Ray Treacy
Davy Walsh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Walsh

[EalingGreen]

There was a programme on Liverpool FCTV on St Patrick's Day with John Aldridge picking an all time
Irish Liverpool team. It was

Elisha Scott (a bit ancient and before the IFA / FAI split)

"Ancient" or no, Elisha Scott was one of the greatest keepers ever. Bill Shankly rated him as good as he ever saw (certainly Liverpool's finest) and he is the club's longest serving player ever. (He would likely have been their record appearance holder but for the War).

Also, when Liverpool fans had a Poll of the 100 All-Time Greatest Liverpool players a few years (5?) ago, he was way up the list. Since virtually none of the voters could ever have seen him play, this is a Testament to just how his reputation is handed down from Father to Son to Grandson etc at Anfield.

And only a few of his earliest caps were pre-Partition; his last Ireland cap was in 1936, when he was 42!

Anyhow, if you want to read more about him, the following Bio's are fascinating:
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/10/elisha-scott.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/down-memory-lane-elisha-scott-was-keeper-of-the-celtic-traditions-14422269.html
http://www.lfchistory.net/player_profile.asp?player_id=833


P.S. Elisha's older brother Billy was also an outstanding goalkeeper, for Everton (almost 300 appearances) and Ireland (25 caps, all pre-Partition):
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/09/billy-scott.html

[EalingGreen]

A quick Man United effort

Would be a bit patchy without the N.I. guys. Don't think there's ever been a Republic GK at United?
Aside from Paddy Roche (mentioned earlier), you are overlooking Drogheda man Tommy Breen - by all accounts a wonderful keeper. He got 5 caps for the FAI (plus 9 for the IFA):
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/08/tommy-breen.html

Anyhow, here is a MU team solely from NI, fit to take on all-comers:
Harry Gregg

Jimmy Nicholl
Jackie Blanchflower
Jonny Evans
Mal Donaghy

Sammy McIlroy
Jimmy Nicholson
Dee McCreery
Mickey Hamill

George Best
Norman Whiteside
(500 caps between them and counting)

[EalingGreen]

Celtic could put together an average Republic of Ireland team and a slightly stronger all-Ireland one.

Republic of Ireland (3-4-3)

Bonner

Morris
McCarthy
Pierce O'Leary

McGeady
Roy Keane
Miller
Healy

Coyne
Cascarino
Robbie Keane

For an All-Ireland team I'd just inlcude Anton Rogan, Neil Lennon and Charlie Tully instead of O'Leary, Miller and Healy.

Whether counted as ROI (Donegal-born and 1 FAI cap), NI (11 IFA caps, 9 of them post-Partition) or simply Ireland, the first name on the list should be Patsy "Mighty Atom" Gallagher - with nearly 500 appearances, arguably the greatest Celt of them all:
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/12/patsy-gallagher.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Gallacher

And if you are going to include Nordies, as has been mentioned, there were few finer than Bertie "Little Ant" Peacock - one of the heroes of Sweden 58:
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/01/bertie-beacock.html

[EalingGreen]

Tottenham (with Pat Jennings in goal and 5 full-backs in defence due to no other options)

Jennings

S. Kelly
J. Holmes
J. Kinnear
C. Hughton
S. Carr

Johnny Gavin (1955)
A. Reid
T. Galvin

R. Keane
G. Doherty
If you don't mind the fact that all his caps were for the IFA ("Ireland"), you really ought to include Wicklow man Jack Kirwan - one of the outstanding stars of English football in his day (also played for Everton and Chelsea):
http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/01/jack-kirwan.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirwan

P.S. Kirwan also had an All-Ireland winners medal in GAA and was the first manager of Ajax of Amsterdam.

[EalingGreen]

Everton

Seamus McDonagh

Terry Phelan
Mick Meagan
Richard Dunne
Peter Farrell

Lee Carsley
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Sheedy
Tommy Eglinton

Mickey Walsh
Eamon O'Keefe

Sub. Peter Corr


All capped while playing for Everton (Seamus Coleman and Shane Duffy may well be in there soon).
You might also consider the following:
Val Harris - http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/12/val-harris.html
Alex Stevenson - http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2007/07/alex-stevenson.html (also first name on the list in any ROI/Rangers XI)
Billy Lacey - http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2006/10/billy-lacey.html (though played many more times for Liverpool)