IST Division Outright Prices

[Longfordian]

Glynn got a hat trick against Shels in one of the last games. 14 sounds about right

[peadar1987]

I think we're all in the same boat there, except for Derry having Farren. But as always someone will come from nowhere and bang in loads. Much like Cummins for yous last season.

How is Farren getting on? Is he going to be okay to play after his health problems last season?

A great player, and one I always enjoyed watching, even if he was a nightmare for our defence!

[Martinho II]

Glynn got a hat trick against Shels in one of the last games. 14 sounds about right

yep longfordians right on that point...

[Dodge]

Monaghan lost their keeper (who was exceptional) to WOlves

[bluemovie]

There'll be some good players in the First Division this year - Mark Farren, Liam Kearney, Kevin McHugh, David Cassidy, Graham Cummins probably George O'Callaghan.

Fingal's squad looks to me to be the third best in the Premier Division and they only came third in the First Division last year. Most clubs have improved their squads. Should be a really competitive division and with Derry and that new team from Cork coming in, some of the Graveyard element should go.

[dancinpants]

Davy McDaid is not up to the standard, we should know, we had him for most of last season - 1 goal to his name.

The same Davy McDaid that scored in three of our last four league games last season in the Premier Division? Aye yer right Sammy - defo not up to first division standard LMAO

Sweeney has 3 in preseason... something positive about that surely? Yes Eddie McCallion isn't as young as he was but easily above the standard required. Friars stood out at an average IL Premier Div side - a standard easily comparable to the LOI 1st division.

Maybe what you see as sh!t might actually be half decent under the right coaching, management?

[sheao]

You can get odds of 7/1 for us to win the first division . http://www.oddschecker.com/football/european-football/other-leagues/ireland/eircom-first-division/ireland-fai-first-division/win-market

[total hoofball]

Oops! Got my figures from eleven-a-side, who seem to have overlooked the last round of games! :D
Too big a discrepancy on Glynn's score though, something wrong there, unlikely to have scored a hat-trick in a 1-1 draw.
But anyway, 9th it is at worst then.

I have Glynn down for 13 league goals and 2 FAI Cup goals in 2009, WJK hit 11 in the League, 4 in FAI Cup and 2 in League Cup

[total hoofball]

There'll be some good players in the First Division this year - Mark Farren, Liam Kearney, Kevin McHugh, David Cassidy, Graham Cummins probably George O'Callaghan.

Fingal's squad looks to me to be the third best in the Premier Division and they only came third in the First Division last year. Most clubs have improved their squads. Should be a really competitive division and with Derry and that new team from Cork coming in, some of the Graveyard element should go.

I'd agree with the bulk of that, definitely a more competitive FD in store this season although I don't think the top 3/4 will be as strong as UCD, Shels, Fingal and Waterford were last season

For me Derry and Waterford should battle it out for the title while I expect a close battle in the fight to finish top 3 into the play-offs, I think those clubs will be Shels, Monaghan, Limerick and an outside chance for Harps and Longford. Cork FORAS are obviously hard to gauge but there is no reason that by the summer if they can get the big crowds in that they'll have a healthy budget to afford a very strong FD squad. I think Wexford may slip back a little after losing a few players, Athlone haven't improved enough on last season so they may struggle and Salthill and Mervue will find it tough but they won't be walkovers.

[CSFShels]

People are seriously underestimating Shels because of our lack of big names this year, these same people seem to be forgetting that our big names over the last few years with the exception of Sparky have been ****.

[total hoofball]

People are seriously underestimating Shels because of our lack of big names this year, these same people seem to be forgetting that our big names over the last few years with the exception of Sparky have been ****.
It's not about big names, its about the previous form and track record or lack of with the players Shels have signed and I think Shels' signings are underwhelming and will not come close to winning the league. Shels still have a decent squad and should challenge for top 3 but Keely has blown the promotion two years in a row and is the weakest link there.

[Jofspring]

People are seriously underestimating Shels because of our lack of big names this year, these same people seem to be forgetting that our big names over the last few years with the exception of Sparky have been ****.

I certainly wouldn't underestimate Shels. Its going to be hard to know what teams will be there or there abouts at this stage though. Most teams have strengthened well so a lot could just come down to getting a good run together early and what kind of form the teams will be in at the start of the season. Last year i didn't expect UCD to win the league at the start of the season and on paper Fingal should have walked it but only finished 3rd. Anything can happen.

[Raheny Red]

People are seriously underestimating Shels because of our lack of big names this year, these same people seem to be forgetting that our big names over the last few years with the exception of Sparky have been ****.


CSF you're doing the opposite and overestimating us....


Anyway, if you back under 2.5 for all Shels games I reckon you will be onto a winner this year.

[KUFCMan]

Boylesports Latest 1ST Division

[KUFCMan]

7-4 Derry
5-2 Shels
7-2 Waterford
7-1 Cork
12 Limerick
18 Mons
25 Longford
25 Finn Harps
33 Athlone
40 Youths
100 Mervue
100 Salthill Devon

EW 1/5 1.2 AND 3

1ST Weeks Prices

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[KUFCMan]

1ST WEEKS PRICES

10-3 Mervue.8-11 Limerick.9-4 Draw
1-2 Waterford.5 Youths.5-2 Draw
4-5 Derry.3 Cork.9-4 Draw
8-13 Shels.4 Mons.12-5 Draw
9-4 Salthill.1-1 Athlone.9-4 Draw
6-5 Longford.2 Harps.21-10 Draw


I like Harps there at 2-1,any thoughts folks

[Candystripe]

Limerick,Derry,Waterford treble looks good.

[Longfordian]

1ST WEEKS PRICES

10-3 Mervue.8-11 Limerick.9-4 Draw
1-2 Waterford.5 Youths.5-2 Draw
4-5 Derry.3 Cork.9-4 Draw
8-13 Shels.4 Mons.12-5 Draw
9-4 Salthill.1-1 Athlone.9-4 Draw
6-5 Longford.2 Harps.21-10 Draw


I like Harps there at 2-1,any thoughts folks

6/5 on us is pretty tight. Think the teams will be pretty evenly matched so the draw looks tempting. Also Athlone at evens looks pretty good.

[bluemovie]

I certainly wouldn't underestimate Shels. Its going to be hard to know what teams will be there or there abouts at this stage though. Most teams have strengthened well so a lot could just come down to getting a good run together early and what kind of form the teams will be in at the start of the season. Last year i didn't expect UCD to win the league at the start of the season and on paper Fingal should have walked it but only finished 3rd. Anything can happen.

Spot on. Fingal should've had the League wrapped up by September with their squad and budget. I didn't think UCD would be in the running, but they were worthy champions. A lot of unpredicatbles there this year. We got Kearney in, but lost Cummins and Browne. Not sure if Shels have enough goals in them. Very impressed that Derry retained Deery, Molloy and Farren although Farren himself may be an unpredictable this year. I hope his health is ok. Limerick and Mons were two of the strongest teams in the second half of the season, but a lot of that was down to O'Flynn and McCarey. Harps have McHugh back so should be much better. I still wouldn't fear Longford. Wexford and Athlone might struggle, but I'll be shocked if the two Galways aren't bottom. As for the new club from Cork, even though they don't have a team yet, I think they'll challenge. They'll probably struggle in the first third of the season due to lack of prep, but I see them pushing in the latter part of the season and finishing third or fourth.

[Martinho II]

Spot on. Fingal should've had the League wrapped up by September with their squad and budget. I didn't think UCD would be in the running, but they were worthy champions. A lot of unpredicatbles there this year. We got Kearney in, but lost Cummins and Browne. Not sure if Shels have enough goals in them. Very impressed that Derry retained Deery, Molloy and Farren although Farren himself may be an unpredictable this year. I hope his health is ok. Limerick and Mons were two of the strongest teams in the second half of the season, but a lot of that was down to O'Flynn and McCarey. Harps have McHugh back so should be much better. I still wouldn't fear Longford. Wexford and Athlone might struggle, but I'll be shocked if the two Galways aren't bottom. As for the new club from Cork, even though they don't have a team yet, I think they'll challenge. They'll probably struggle in the first third of the season due to lack of prep, but I see them pushing in the latter part of the season and finishing third or fourth.


graham cummins what club is he with now that the cork city deal fell through?

[bluemovie]

I don't know. He seems keen to stay in Cork. He did well on trial with St.Johnstone, but turned them down cos they wanted him to go on loan to a Division One team, looked set for Fingal, then Roddy had him with the old Cork club. We've approached him and increased our offer a couple of times, but it mightn't be worth travelling for. We're not going to break the bank. Would still love if he signed for us, but we have 5 potential strikers in the squad so I presume he'll be with the Co-op.