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KBurke
17/02/2010, 10:11 AM
Fixtures are out

http://www.loi.ie/images/stories/2010_Season_Fixture_List.pdf

tippex
17/02/2010, 10:13 AM
Surpirse surprise cork are listed as premier.
However did they not get chucked out of the cross?
What ground did they put on their license application?

pineapple stu
17/02/2010, 10:15 AM
Six midweek fixtures and every one at home. :)

WoodquayBoy
17/02/2010, 10:18 AM
Why are three Premier Division fixtures in Series 2 being played on the Monday night, rather than the previous Friday??

tippex
17/02/2010, 10:20 AM
this is the LOI don't try to figure it out ;)

harps1954
17/02/2010, 10:20 AM
Surpirse surprise cork are listed as premier.


JOKE! FAI have no intention of relegating them. The fixture list just goes to show that you can do what you want in terms of licensing.

Cork have no Licence and yet they are listed as a Premier Division club in the fixture list.

PartySaint
17/02/2010, 10:21 AM
Six midweek fixtures and every one at home. :)

Except for week 30, Your playing us in Turners Cross for some reason:confused:

The Betting Man
17/02/2010, 10:26 AM
Why are three Premier Division fixtures in Series 2 being played on the Monday night, rather than the previous Friday??

I think there is Setanta Cup games that weekend

pineapple stu
17/02/2010, 10:26 AM
We're away to Cork on Friday in week 30?

Why is week 2 split between Friday and Monday, does anyone know?

Edit - already answered...

Edit edit - I see what Party Saint means now!

WoodquayBoy
17/02/2010, 10:48 AM
I think there is Setanta Cup games that weekend
Aha. Thanks

1882
17/02/2010, 11:15 AM
Does anyone know when the A Championship fixtures will be released?

Sam_Heggy
17/02/2010, 11:25 AM
Feck, i know this may look like sour grapes, well it is, the hoorbags, Why are we away to the Muckers TWICE again this season? Last time we were in the same division as Derry (2008) we were away to them twice in the league and once in the league cup.
So not only have they allowed a debt free Derry into the League without sanction, they also reward them by giving them their biggest gate of the season twice, while the debt ridden neighbours who had to up a few players wages due to advances from the Muckers have to make do with one game.
Plus, if both sides are challenging for promotion by the end of the season (big if) then the second last game of the season is in the Randywell.
Hoorbags.
I rest my case.

OneForTheFuture
17/02/2010, 11:32 AM
Feck, i know this may look like sour grapes, well it is, the hoorbags, Why are we away to the Muckers TWICE again this season? Last time we were in the same division as Derry (2008) we were away to them twice in the league and once in the league cup.
So not only have they allowed a debt free Derry into the League without sanction, they also reward them by giving them their biggest gate of the season twice, while the debt ridden neighbours who had to up a few players wages due to advances from the Muckers have to make do with one game.
Plus, if both sides are challenging for promotion by the end of the season (big if) then the second last game of the season is in the Randywell.
Hoorbags.
I rest my case.

This is clearly the time to go back on the fags Sam, assuming that's what your sig is referring to!

Sam_Heggy
17/02/2010, 11:58 AM
This is clearly the time to go back on the fags Sam, assuming that's what your sig is referring to!

Yeah, could be a good idea.
Still p!ssed off that by the end of this season we will have played 5 of our last 7 Derby games in the Randysmell.
Maybe going on the booze might help too?

A N Mouse
17/02/2010, 12:04 PM
Yeah, could be a good idea.
Still p!ssed off that by the end of this season we will have played 5 of our last 7 Derby games in the Randysmell.
Maybe going on the booze might help too?

Is that you admitting that this Derry team aren't some new entity that just magically appeared in the first division? :D

corkharps
17/02/2010, 12:08 PM
Feck, i know this may look like sour grapes, well it is, the hoorbags, Why are we away to the Muckers TWICE again this season? Last time we were in the same division as Derry (2008) we were away to them twice in the league and once in the league cup.
So not only have they allowed a debt free Derry into the League without sanction, they also reward them by giving them their biggest gate of the season twice, while the debt ridden neighbours who had to up a few players wages due to advances from the Muckers have to make do with one game.
Plus, if both sides are challenging for promotion by the end of the season (big if) then the second last game of the season is in the Randywell.
Hoorbags.
I rest my case.
Its a total sham! FAI reward cheating and further obstruct smaller clubs trying to do things by the book.If this continues the FAI will oversee a six team league! Time for Harps to make inquiries about the Irish League, this is blatant and disgraceful.

mrtndvn
17/02/2010, 12:14 PM
Feck, i know this may look like sour grapes, well it is, the hoorbags, Why are we away to the Muckers TWICE again this season? Last time we were in the same division as Derry (2008) we were away to them twice in the league and once in the league cup.
So not only have they allowed a debt free Derry into the League without sanction, they also reward them by giving them their biggest gate of the season twice, while the debt ridden neighbours who had to up a few players wages due to advances from the Muckers have to make do with one game.
Plus, if both sides are challenging for promotion by the end of the season (big if) then the second last game of the season is in the Randywell.
Hoorbags.
I rest my case.

Sam as a Derry fan I couldn't agree more, it does look like sour grapes.

Now away with you and ride McWho

sheao
17/02/2010, 12:25 PM
If Bray will be replacing Cork City in the premier divison, does that mean our games will be on a Sunday if we are playing first division football ?

seand60
17/02/2010, 1:08 PM
Ok can anybody tell me how is the best way to get to Salthills ground coming from Athlone please.
Thanks.

Boo_Boy
17/02/2010, 2:03 PM
Ok can anybody tell me how is the best way to get to Salthills ground coming from Athlone please.
Thanks.

Car, Jim.

1882
17/02/2010, 2:07 PM
Car, Jim.Tractor could also be useful

EAFC_rdfl
17/02/2010, 2:10 PM
Ok can anybody tell me how is the best way to get to Salthills ground coming from Athlone please.
Thanks.
heres a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=N6&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=FdQFLQMdxO51_w%3BFe0cLQMdD6h0_w&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=13&sll=53.286256,-9.038143&sspn=0.078198,0.146942&ie=UTF8&ll=53.289129,-9.084492&spn=0.078193,0.146942&z=13)

i take it you know how to get as far as terryland!!
its straight forward enough, cross the quencintenial bridge, then cross the roundabout (signposted for salthill or spiddeal id say).
go through 2 sets of lights, then turn right at the hanley oaks hotel. go up the hill past the graveyard bout a mile or 2 and then its a right turn in a back road - should be signs there for drum/salthill devon

carrickharp
17/02/2010, 2:23 PM
It's a sorry joke how they are giving Derry two home matches against Harps to help them through the hard times and the whole Cork saga, two teams that should be in the A League because if Harps did half of what they did they would.

harpstilidie
17/02/2010, 2:33 PM
I'm getting sick of this league. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother. Doesn't surprise me one bit that Derry got two home games against us. Typical FAI accomodating the bigger clubs who cheat while they couldn't give a toss about the smaller ones who do everything without cheating.

Candystripe
17/02/2010, 2:40 PM
>>>>>>Harps fans............Look on the bright side,even though we're only playing once at the barn we will still bring more away fans than you's will on your two visits to the Brandywell.

Probably three times as many as the entire away support of all other clubs visiting there this season.


Oh yeah and to make matters even worse for ye's we've got Shels twice in the Brandywell as well. lol

Longfordian
17/02/2010, 2:56 PM
Fixtures aren't so bad for us either. Derry at home twice, Shels at home twice, ditto Waterford, though we do have to go to Limerick and Harps twice.

gufc2000
17/02/2010, 2:58 PM
Its a shambles having so many games to accomodate the Setanta Cup, which most teams who play in it don't give a toss about. A third of our home fixtures are are midweek, including the 2 games against Sligo. Once the again the FAI make a fcuk up of everything

harpstilidie
17/02/2010, 3:02 PM
Fixtures aren't so bad for us either. Derry at home twice, Shels at home twice, ditto Waterford, though we do have to go to Limerick and Harps twice.

Only away to Harps once.

total hoofball
17/02/2010, 3:07 PM
Harps fans,

I'm not one to defend or stick up for the FAI but there is no conspiracy in Derry getting two home games against you, there is a reasoning behind it.

As the 1st division has 3 rounds of 11 games the amount of home and away games against all teams alternate every season. You will have one home game and two away games against one team and the next season against the same team you will have two home games and one away game.

Bray for example will take the position of Sporting Fingal in the 1st division and also in the fixture lists as both clubs essentially swapped places in the division same with Salthill Devon who take the place of Kildare County in the 1st division and also in the fixtures lists. As no club in existance has replaced UCD in the 1st division and in the fixture lists through finishing 10th in the PD, the new Derry take up that spot.

If UCD and Sporting Fingal were still in the first division this season UCD would have had two home games against Sporting Fingal, Derry replace UCD and Bray replace Sporting Fingal and hence Derry playing Bray on the opening day of the season and having two home games against Bray in 2010.

With Harps if UCD were still the 1st this season you would have been due two away games this season as you had one away game against them in 2009. It's just your luck that the new Derry have to take the place of UCD in the fixture lists and get two home games against you as there is no other vanacy for Derry to take up, otherwise it would distort the alternation of the fixtures for the other 11 clubs in the division.

Longfordian
17/02/2010, 3:10 PM
Only away to Harps once.

You're right of course, since we have you at home first up. Don't know why I thought that, I must go review the fixtures again!.

Candystripe
17/02/2010, 3:15 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hoofball,but that just makes to much sense for a Harps fan to realise.

Awating the contiuous whinging about this for the entire season from Harps fans. :)

Mr A
17/02/2010, 3:27 PM
What Hoofball says makes sense and is my understanding of the logic behind the fixture calendar. The FAI could just as easily have assigned Derry Kildare/Salthill's spot though rather than UCD's.

Candystripe
17/02/2010, 3:39 PM
Mr A, two seasons ago we played at home twice V Harps so if we both had of been in D1 last year we would have been away twice to you's.

But feel free to continue with the whinging, I'm really enjoying it.;)

pineapple stu
17/02/2010, 4:11 PM
Can we drop the crap of trying to refute posts just because they're from Harps fans?

Mr A
17/02/2010, 4:45 PM
Mr A, two seasons ago we played at home twice V Harps so if we both had of been in D1 last year we would have been away twice to you's.



The games two seasons ago make no difference to how this season's fixtures were worked out. You were placed in UCD's slot for this season and hence you have the two games as explained above.

My point was that had they decided to put you in Kildare's slot it would have been reversed.

OneRedArmy
17/02/2010, 5:30 PM
Can we drop the crap of trying to refute posts just because they're from Harps fans?Is it ok to refute them because they are bitter, tired, childish rants, alleging unfounded favouritism by the FAI and without any substance in fact whatsoever?

corkharps
17/02/2010, 8:51 PM
Is it ok to refute them because they are bitter, tired, childish rants, alleging unfounded favouritism by the FAI and without any substance in fact whatsoever?
The fact that you are still in the league is a clear indication of favouritism! The fact that Stephen Kenny escaped without ANY sanction, claiming ostrich head in the sand like vision is a clear indication of favouritism! I'll leave it at that for the moment and await your next effort at cheating!

Dodge
17/02/2010, 9:24 PM
Its a shambles having so many games to accomodate the Setanta Cup, which most teams who play in it don't give a toss about. A third of our home fixtures are are midweek, including the 2 games against Sligo. Once the again the FAI make a fcuk up of everything

3 games in the entire season were moved because of the Setanta cup (all of them in the second series). No more

jan molby
17/02/2010, 9:28 PM
Press release


Bray Wanderers are highly critical of the way that the League of Ireland today issued the fixture list for the 2010 season.
General Manager Jack O'Neill said:
“We are absolutely dismayed that the League of Ireland has issued a set of fixtures which places Cork City who currently have no licence to play in the League of Ireland for the coming season in the Premier Division while Bray Wanderers who obtained a Premier Division licence have been placed in the First Division.
As the 10th ranked team to receive a Premier Division licence from the Independent Licence Committee we find it staggering that the fixtures have been released in such a fashion. It is our belief that the release of these fixtures in such a format is inherently flawed and should not have been released in this format in advance of the outcome of the High Court case involving Cork City and the decision of the Independent Club Licensing Committee on Monday 22nd February”

End of Press Release.
Issued by Bray Wanderers Football Club.
17th February 2010.

osarusan
17/02/2010, 10:02 PM
I without any substance in fact whatsoever?
How are you in a position to say this?

gufc2000
17/02/2010, 10:11 PM
3 games in the entire season were moved because of the Setanta cup (all of them in the second series). No more
Thats still too much, crowds are bound to be affected. Moving games of clubs that need all the money they can get to facilitate those playing mickey-mouse competitions at the weekend is ridiculous. Your team may not be affected greatly but we are. The Setanta Cup has lost its appeal and teams aren't taking it as seriously any more, so why start moving league games because of it. Its not an attack on you, its just my personal opinion

Flexy
17/02/2010, 10:23 PM
Dry your eyes Harps Fans we are the only club that has to travel twice to Waterford, Limerick and Wexford no other club has that travelling as well. Dont know what your moaning about home or away still another easy guaranteed 9 points for us over the season

Dodge
17/02/2010, 10:40 PM
Thats still too much, crowds are bound to be affected. Moving games of clubs that need all the money they can get to facilitate those playing mickey-mouse competitions at the weekend is ridiculous. Your team may not be affected greatly but we are. The Setanta Cup has lost its appeal and teams aren't taking it as seriously any more, so why start moving league games because of it. Its not an attack on you, its just my personal opinion

Nothing wrong with thinking games shudn't be moved. it was you implying that it was widespread. its not. Glway have ONE game moved from a Friday to a MOnday. Your initial reaction is way over the top


Its a shambles having so many games to accomodate the Setanta Cup, which most teams who play in it don't give a toss about. A third of our home fixtures are are midweek, including the 2 games against Sligo. Once the again the FAI make a fcuk up of everything

corkharps
17/02/2010, 10:43 PM
IS there any hope that televised games will not be on a Friday night?Please,please please have a little sense FAI/RTE/TG4....

Donegalcelt
17/02/2010, 11:40 PM
Think it's cos Ireland are playing Algeria on Friday, May 28??r

OneRedArmy
18/02/2010, 7:37 AM
How are you in a position to say this?Read Hoofball's post above as to how the fixture calendar is put together.

osarusan
18/02/2010, 8:05 AM
Read Hoofball's post above as to how the fixture calendar is put together.I have done, but i'm not sure of the rationale that means Derry replace UCD and not Kildare.

For that matter, I'm not sure how big a deal it is for Derry to have Harps at home twice, but the idea that somebody in the FAI might see that Derry taking Kildare's fixture list and give them two games against Harps to get some cash isn't impossible for me to believe.

That said, you're away to Limerick and Waterford twice.

A N Mouse
18/02/2010, 12:08 PM
The games two seasons ago make no difference to how this season's fixtures were worked out. You were placed in UCD's slot for this season and hence you have the two games as explained above.

My point was that had they decided to put you in Kildare's slot it would have been reversed.

This works both ways. If you want to say' but we played at the brandywell twice last time', then well that was two years ago and makes no difference to how this season's fixtures were worked out!


The fact that you are still in the league is a clear indication of favouritism! The fact that Stephen Kenny escaped without ANY sanction, claiming ostrich head in the sand like vision is a clear indication of favouritism! I'll leave it at that for the moment and await your next effort at cheating!

Aww didums. If there was no Derry team this year we all know who'd be on here complaining the loudest. I'd imagine it'd go something like this - It's a disgrace that fai let the muckers just disappear, how are we going to get a decent gate now? Maybe some of the derry wans will support us, like they did last time they had no team, and we can get the derry based players. FFS none of the muckers are coming to finn kip. Fecking stute/sligo/il teams taking all the best derry based players

Battery Rover
18/02/2010, 12:16 PM
Anyone here anything about Salthill playing a friendly in Drom this Saturday?

Mr A
18/02/2010, 1:12 PM
This works both ways. If you want to say' but we played at the brandywell twice last time', then well that was two years ago and makes no difference to how this season's fixtures were worked out!



On the first paragraph- I never said that it did.

LOL at the idea of Harps fans complaining loudly about the demise of Derry City.