Irish Managers

[olegunnar]

How many Irish managers are out there???

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield?
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll (ex Bournemouth)
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)



Are there any more, not based in Ireland???

[superfrank]

You forgot the best of the lot Martin o Neill


Owen Coyle is not Irish
But O'Neill is?

How does that work?

[geysir]

Pat Walker Sandefjord Norway

Almost a perfect record of 10s in the season just finished,
w 10 D 10 L 10, finished in 9th place.

[TrapAPony]

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

[geysir]

You forgot the best of the lot Martin o Neill


Owen Coyle is not Irish

Not your type of Irish but not many would care about that.

Owen Coyle (http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/disappointed-but-never-disillusioned-1258845.html)

'They called where he grew up 'mini-Donegal' so when he, Glasgow-born, was given the chance to play for Ireland, he didn't have to think about it. There was a choice, he says because Scotland wanted him too, but there was no decision to make. His first match for the U-21s was against Scotland and Coyle, as he tended to do, scored early, but Scotland went on to win.'

[Ciaran W]

Chris houghton is isnt irish

[gael353]

Chris houghton is isnt irish

is or isnt?

his mother was from weston in limerick city

[Paddy Garcia]

Chris houghton is isnt irish

What a cheek that Hughton has - we should never have let him play all those years for us then.

What is he btw? And if thats the case we can send his son him home with his tail between his legs too.

[Ciaran W]

He was born in england. . Hes english

[Supreme feet]

Oh good God. Not this 'nationality' debate again.

[Colbert Report]

He was born in england. . Hes english

Get stuffed!

[Paddy Garcia]

He was born in england. . Hes english

The standards on this forum are sadly declining.

[olegunnar]

If the person involved has a senior cap for Ireland, I'm happy to call them Irish, and also jealous that they got capped!!

Great shout on that manager in Norway!

[twoenz]

But wouldn't that make someone like Oscar Wilde English? He was born in Dublin when it was simply another part of the Empire.

Terry Phelan manages in New Zealand, with Otaga United FC.

Are there any in the MLS?

[O'Shea's Boot]

Pat Fenlon - Dundee Utd

[GM11]

He was born in england. . Hes english


get fecked

my daughter was born in manchester when i lived there but has lived here since she was one - will that make her english the rest of her life ???

idiot

we will always have players who speak with a non irish accent as we have been a country with mass migration for as long as anyone remembers - dont really want to get into the "WHAT MAKES YOU IRISH" debate because nobody has the right to comment - people left these shores for their own reasons and it doesn't make them any less irish !!!

[Razors left peg]

Pat Fenlon - Dundee Utd

is that deal not off?

[olegunnar]

Dundee Utd deal is off for Fenlon, DU hadn't the money to pay Bohs. They got 230k for Levein from SFA.

So now we have....

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield?
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll (ex Bournemouth)
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)
Pat Walker - Sandefjord

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

Terry Phelan - Otaga United FC

[leedslad]

Dundee Utd deal is off for Fenlon, DU hadn't the money to pay Bohs. They got 230k for Levein from SFA.

So now we have....

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield?
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll (ex Bournemouth)
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)
Pat Walker - Sandefjord

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

Terry Phelan - Otaga United FC

I would have O'Driscoll as current Doncaster Rovers rether than ex-Bournemouth. Got them promoted to championship last year beating Leeds at Wembley.

[SkStu]

yes, its off.

DU didnt match our evaluation of Fenlon so we wouldnt release him. Proper order too.

[GM11]

Sammy McElroy

Brendan Rogers (ex watford and reading)

[SilkCut]

Terry Phelan doesn't coach Otago anymore. Replaced this season by Malcolm Fleming.

[bennocelt]

He was born in england. . Hes english

Just Like Paul Mcgrath then:rolleyes:

[holidaysong]

Dundee Utd deal is off for Fenlon, DU hadn't the money to pay Bohs. They got 230k for Levein from SFA.

So now we have....

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield?
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll (ex Bournemouth)
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)
Pat Walker - Sandefjord

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

Terry Phelan - Otaga United FC

Surely Pat Fenlon is still an Irish manager though even if he hasn't gone to Dundee United..? :confused:

[Acornvilla]

Surely Pat Fenlon is still an Irish manager though even if he hasn't gone to Dundee United..? :confused:
i think that list is irish managers managing outside of the LOI johnny mcDonnell can be added to the list so :)

[CraftyToePoke]

Rob Kelly - at Preston, was in charge before Ferguson was appointed and also managed Leicester, think he won a B cap for us, could be wrong on that but definately sees himself as Irish. Birmingham born to Irish parents AFAIK.

[twoenz]

Alan Kernaghan had a spell as Dundee boss.

[Acornvilla]

joe kinnear

[Junior]

Alan Kernaghan had a spell as Dundee boss.

Involved with the Youth set up at Glasgow Rangers now.:eek:

[Junior]

yes, its off.

DU didnt match our evaluation of Fenlon so we wouldnt release him. Proper order too.



Spiers in the Times was very positive about the possible appointment of Fenlon

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/graham_spiers/article6982946.ece


£300k does seem a little excessive for Fenlon if DU could only manage £260k for Levein from the SFA.

Do you know what salary Fenlon was on and what term was left on his contract?

[olegunnar]

Martin O'Neill, Sammy McIlroy & Brendan Rodgers are NI Managers.

[EastTerracer]

Martin O'Neill, Sammy McIlroy & Brendan Rodgers are NI Managers.

Northmen, Southmen, comrades all. Dublin, Belfast, Cork & Donegal.

[Bluebeard]

I'm just glad that no-one has suggested the Maltese Pigeon as an Irish manager abroad.

[Metrostars]

If we're going to count Martin O'Neill then we should also count Nigel Worthington, Manager of the Northern Ireland team.

Also Brian Kerr, manager of Faroes.

[SkStu]

Spiers in the Times was very positive about the possible appointment of Fenlon

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/graham_spiers/article6982946.ece


£300k does seem a little excessive for Fenlon if DU could only manage £260k for Levein from the SFA.

Do you know what salary Fenlon was on and what term was left on his contract?

he was under a 3 year contract with Bohs with a base salary of around e100k probably a little less. We were looking for gbp200k, DU offered 80k, then 100k. Its a great thing that we stood our ground and demanded suitable compensation - its all too often that British clubs rape the League of its best talents for next to nothing.

[Irish_Praha]

The list is looking at lot healtier than if it was compiled a few years ago anyway.

Clutching a straws a bit but David Kelly is assistant manager at Forest, maybe he will make the step up at another club soon.

Any other young(ish) assistants that could go on to be head coaches?

[olegunnar]

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll - Doncaster Rovers
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)
Pat Walker - Sandefjord

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

Terry Phelan - (ex Otaga United FC)
David Kelly - (Asst Manager at Nottm Forest)

[Charlie Darwin]

he was under a 3 year contract with Bohs with a base salary of around e100k probably a little less. We were looking for gbp200k, DU offered 80k, then 100k. Its a great thing that we stood our ground and demanded suitable compensation - its all too often that British clubs rape the League of its best talents for next to nothing.
Either that or Bohs thought they were in for a massive windfall payment from Dundee and have wound up shafting themselves with their excessive demands. Time will tell whether Bohs can sustain their financial model next year.

[geysir]

Terry Phelan had an embarrassing record with Otaga but could he claim to have laid the foundations for the new manager who has the club flying near the top of the table? :D

Somehow Terry's reputation hasn't suffered too much and he got a profile job coaching with the NZ FA.

[Bluebeard]

In an (almost) unrelated footnote, I see Jason Kabia is working in LA for Elite Irish Soccer School :eek:

[Qwerty]

Do pub sides outside the LOI count?

Where is this thread going? To illustarte we have sh1te managers?

How about figuring out how Scottish & Norn Irish managers seem to be so unusually successful?

[seanfhear]

Do pub sides outside the LOI count?

Where is this thread going? To illustarte we have sh1te managers?

How about figuring out how Scottish & Norn Irish managers seem to be so unusually successful?
Scottish definitely

Martin O'Neill...... Irish and Northern Irish:)

Billy Bingham ....Northern Irish and British I would guess would be his way of describing himself.

The Scots definitely have a great track record producing managers but Ireland not so good (imho) but I think that is improving.

England itself is struggling to produce top managers these days and when you consider the interest in football in England that is hard to understand.

[Ozymandias]

In an (almost) unrelated footnote, I see Jason Kabia is working in LA for Elite Irish Soccer School :eek:

There is surely a contradiction in that....Elite

[dr_peepee]

Sean O'Driscoll apparently interviewing for the Burnley job!!

[dr_peepee]

he was under a 3 year contract with Bohs with a base salary of around e100k probably a little less. We were looking for gbp200k, DU offered 80k, then 100k. Its a great thing that we stood our ground and demanded suitable compensation - its all too often that British clubs rape the League of its best talents for next to nothing.

Have Bohs financial issues hindered the payments of players or managements wages or bonuses at all over the course of the year??

[SkStu]

Have Bohs financial issues hindered the payments of players or managements wages or bonuses at all over the course of the year??

prior to the beginning of last season, Bohs, like most other clubs seeking to reduce their budget, negotiated decreases to players wages. Unlike a whole host of clubs, over the years not one Bohs player or manager has ever failed to receive their regular wages each week.

Apparently Fenlon was asked to take a deferral on the bonuses due to him for winning the League and League Cup and agreed. He was paid the bonuses over the weekend. Im not sure about players bonuses (if any) but im sure if they hadnt been received, it would have been leaked by now. Players have bigger mouths (eg Dominic Foley).

[Bluebeard]

There is surely a contradiction in that....Elite

As are, it could be argued, the words "Irish", "Soccer" and "School", if you view it from a certain perspective...

[OwlsFan]

Despite all the talk of "continental managers" in the English game, a quick review of the list of managers in the English league breaks down something as follows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers

50. English
12. Scottish
08. Irish
06. Wales
04. Italy
02. Northern Ireland and Spain
01. St. Lucia, France, Canada, Portugal, Israel and Greece.

That's based on a quick check.

[seanfhear]

Despite all the talk of "continental managers" in the English game, a quick review of the list of managers in the English league breaks down something as follows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers

50. English
12. Scottish
08. Irish
06. Wales
04. Italy
02. Northern Ireland and Spain
01. St. Lucia, France, Canada, Portugal, Israel and Greece.

That's based on a quick check. The Island of Ireland does not do too bad there (not far behind the Scots)

[CMcC]

Dundee Utd deal is off for Fenlon, DU hadn't the money to pay Bohs. They got 230k for Levein from SFA.

So now we have....

Mick McCarthy - Wolves
Owen Coyle - Bolton

Roy Keane - Ipswich
Chris Hughton - Newcastle

John Sheridan - Chesterfield?
Steve Staunton - Darlington

Brian Kerr - Faroe Islands
Jim Gannon (ex Motherwell/Stockport County & Dundalk)

Sean O'Driscoll (ex Bournemouth)
David O'Leary (ex Leeds & Aston Villa)

Jeff Kenna (ex Galway Utd & St Pats)
Pat Walker - Sandefjord

Gary Waddock - Wycombe Wanderers
Liam Daish - Ebbsfleet United

Terry Phelan - Otaga United FC

Ah Pat Walker, what a player he was for Bohs in the half season or so he played in the red and black. A few older Bohs supporters I know hold him up there with Kevin Hunt and Jackie!

BTW didnt Joe McGrath manage the NZ national team around 1997 for a season or so.

If including Norn Iron - Brendan Rogers (Reading) up to Christmas I think, Jim Magilton went around the same time from QPR.
Danny Wilson is with Swindon
Jimmy Quinn was knocking around managing teams for a while
Sammy McIlroy is with Morcombe or someone