GAA branded Nazi-like over Rule 42

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GAA branded Nazi-like over Rule 42

The decision of the GAA to remove from its Congress agenda any discussion on the controversial Rule 42 - which precludes the playing of any so-called foreign sports at Gaelic grounds - has been branded "Nazi-like" by one of the Association’s own delegates.

A statutory committee has ruled eight motions in favour of a change in the rules out of order and now the motion will not be even discussed at Congress.


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[brendy_éire]

Here we go again with the Nazi-bashing. :rolleyes: I'm not a fan of them, but I wish people would use the term Nazi in its proper context.

IMO, the use of Croke Park is the GAA's decision, and I'm happy with it either way. They see soccer as a competitor, and are afraid of losing players to it. They shouldn't be forced by anyone to promote it.

[lopez]

Originally posted by brendy_eire
IMO, the use of Croke Park is the GAA's decision, and I'm happy with it either way. They see soccer as a competitor, and are afraid of losing players to it. They shouldn't be forced by anyone to promote it.
Neither should the taxpayer foot the bill for Croke Park's redevopment. Neither should football clubs in Britain or Europe lend their facilities to the sport. Neither should councils in Britain who adhere to any anti-discrimination legislation (all of them IMO) do either. F*cking bigots!

[brendy_éire]

Originally posted by lopez
Neither should the taxpayer foot the bill for Croke Park's redevopment. Neither should football clubs in Britain or Europe lend their facilities to the sport. Neither should councils in Britain who adhere to any anti-discrimination legislation (all of them IMO) do either. F*cking bigots!

Calm down mucker hi. The government has a duty to promote our national games. They're part of our heritage and an integral part of our culture. It is entirely right for the government to pay for the redevelopment of Croke Park. The GAA are charged by the government with running the association games and promoting them as they see fit. If they see it fit not to open Croke Park to competing sports, fair enough.

[lopez]

Originally posted by brendy_eire
Calm down mucker hi. The government has a duty to promote our national games. They're part of our heritage and an integral part of our culture. It is entirely right for the government to pay for the redevelopment of Croke Park. The GAA are charged by the government with running the association games and promoting them as they see fit. If they see it fit not to open Croke Park to competing sports, fair enough.
OK brendy: The nurse has given me my medication. Thing is in the real world there is a lot of cooperation between sporting bodies. There's much money to be made. It's time the GAA came into it.

Imagine the 1994 World Cup without the aid of the American sporting bodies (OK many stadiums owned by feckless corporations but you take my point). The GAA should have nothing to fear from sharing their grounds and everything to gain (especially financially). This ban is based on bigotry, although I agree the term Nazi is too easily thrown around. Time I went to bed. ;)

[eoinh]

Originally posted by brendy_eire
Here we go again with the Nazi-bashing.

I know, I know they were terribly misunderstood.

[eoinh]

Originally posted by brendy_eire
They're part of our heritage and an integral part of our culture.


So is football! Anyway the GAA only represents as it claims themselves Gaels (whoever they were :rolleyes: ). Hopefully football represents everybody and every culture on this island. IMO thats why we have two associations on this island not one.

i dont want football played in Croke Park. Let the apartheid era organistaion do whatever they want.

[Paddy Ramone]

Originally posted by eoinh
So is football! Anyway the GAA only represents as it claims themselves Gaels (whoever they were :rolleyes: ).

Are all those Presbyterians in Ulster with Scots Gaelic surnames beginning with "Mc", Gaels?:)

[lopez]

I can't say I enjoy GAA bashing, but they've always struck me as an odd cabal. While claiming to stand for the protection of 'our sporting heritage' it has demoted what is one of the fastest, skillful and pleasing to watch game, an 'indigenous' game with a long history, in favour of a hybrid between soccer and rugby which even the GAA's hagiographer Marcus De Burca admits is synthetic, being devised after both rugby and football were both codified (indeed wasn't Michael Cusack originally a great follower of rugby?) and is doubtful anything like football played previously in Ireland.

Also this rule 21 was another own goal IMO. OK, policemen and chuckies in the same club are hardly conducive to the war of independence, but surely isn't this the case in any other part of society: eg: a soccer club? And as far as infilitration goes, the British seemed to be successful getting into the Ra, without sending in an overt policeman at a GAA club. Sean O'Callagahan? Snakebite (or whatever he was called)? The bloke that was taken for a bath? All this rule did (as did rule 27 (the ban) and rule 42 continues to do) was to underline that this association was more than just a sporting one, but a political one with a pillar of discrimination, whose only notable success was to prevent that boring sport, cricket, grabbing a foothold in Ireland.

[wws]

I actually know someone who was a member of this 'GAA' thing, apparently they are actually all Nazis

[lopez]

Originally posted by davros
Who are you;Hair Bear?!
Turn up in Lahore this week....don't think you'd call the sport boring then.......
Dav, in this part of the world, it's an excuse for a siesta. As for Lahore, well put in a fart lighting match between India and Pakistan, and it would kick off. :D

Originally posted by wws
I actually know someone who was a member of this 'GAA' thing, apparently they are actually all Nazis
Steady on! Do they walk around in brown shirts whistling the Horst Wessel Song? No nazis would allow a half - Fijian (Sean Og whatshisname) to taint any sport fo theirs. Come on, there's plenty of ammunition out there without bringing out the NSDAP.

[John83]

Originally posted by lopez
Steady on! Do they walk around in brown shirts whistling the Horst Wessel Song? No nazis would allow a half - Fijian (Sean Og whatshisname) to taint any sport fo theirs. Come on, there's plenty of ammunition out there without bringing out the NSDAP.
It seems fairly fascist to me that a small body within an organisation can arbitrarily rule perfecly good motions (I have it on very good authority) out of order just because they don't like the fact that most of the organisation wants to pass them.

Words like totalitarian are being bandied about in the papers, and not without justification.

[TommyT]

Very unfair. Even the Nazis used to play sport against other people.

[Paddy Ramone]

"Soccer" just as much a "foreign" game to the Germans as the Irish was never banned in Nazi Germany. The GAA even make the Nazis look like lily-livered liberals. :D

[Paddy Ramone]

Originally posted by lopez
in favour of a hybrid between soccer and rugby which even the GAA's hagiographer Marcus De Burca admits is synthetic, being devised after both rugby and football were both codified (indeed wasn't Michael Cusack originally a great follower of rugby?) and is doubtful anything like football played previously in Ireland.


There was a game called Caid played in Kerry and Cork which was forerunner to Gaelic and rugby in those areas. It's not as ancient as Hurling of course.

[Shed End John]

Originally posted by Paddy Ramone
There was a game called Caid played in Kerry and Cork which was forerunner to Gaelic and rugby in those areas. It's not as ancient as Hurling of course.

And in some Irish speakers in Kerry refer to a ball as 'caid', most of the rest of the country uses 'liathróid'. The term is also used to refer to a game of Gaelic football.

[TommyT]

Originally posted by Shed End John
And in some Irish speakers in Kerry refer to a ball as 'caid', most of the rest of the country uses 'liathróid'. The term is also used to refer to a game of Gaelic football.

Apparently it was much more similar to rugby than Gaelic, the first attempt to codify the rules was at Jesuit Schools (Clongowes Wood and Belvedere) and this produced a code called ''Jesuit Rules'' this was so similar to Rugby they dropped it when IRFU started up. Also the reason Castleisland is a bit of a rugby stronghold (well relatively)

[Shed End John]

Originally posted by TommyT
. Also the reason Castleisland is a bit of a rugby stronghold (well relatively)

I'll say!! The great Mick 'Gaillimh' Galwey hails from Castleisland. Absolute legend he is!

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......as do Moss Keane and Mick Doyle.

[lopez]

Originally posted by TommyT
Apparently it was much more similar to rugby than Gaelic, the first attempt to codify the rules was at Jesuit Schools (Clongowes Wood and Belvedere) and this produced a code called ''Jesuit Rules'' this was so similar to Rugby they dropped it when IRFU started up. Also the reason Castleisland is a bit of a rugby stronghold (well relatively)
William Webb Ellis got the idea for his game while visiting the cousins in the auld country, to be sure, to be sure. :D Apparently.