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Mr A
16/12/2009, 10:07 AM
From the Examiner:


JOHN DELANEY will give a state of the football nation address in Leinster House today as the FAI chief executive is set to be quizzed on a tough year for Irish soccer.

The Waterford man will appear before the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Arts, Sport, Tourism, Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs to discuss the difficulties faced by domestic clubs and the future of a ‘league in crisis'.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/delaney-set-to-be-grilled-on-the-future-of-a-league-in-crisis-107970.html

Mr A
16/12/2009, 10:31 AM
No harm in them taking some level of interest for a change. Especially if it means the FAI start watching their backs with regard to the consistent enforcement of their own rules.

I hope that Delaney compares the supports given to the horse and dog racing industries compared to those given to the country's biggest participation sport.

tiktok
16/12/2009, 10:34 AM
The opportunity here is for Delaney to stand before them and when they ask why the league is in the crapper to be honest, while adding "your giving all the money to dogs and horses doesn't help though, you shower of hypocrits".

I hope he goes all Gogarty on them!

pineapple stu
16/12/2009, 10:34 AM
What business is it of theirs? When they provide some funding they can have a say in its affairs.
If you were in charge, would you give funding to the league, given the state it's in?

Mr A
16/12/2009, 10:45 AM
And they government do contribute to the league. We have secured €1.25 million in grants towards our new stadium so far (albeit it's been an infuriatingly slow process to actually get it released). Plenty of other clubs have secured government money also.

Captain2007
16/12/2009, 10:46 AM
If you were in charge, would you give funding to the league, given the state it's in?

the league is not the problem, it's the chairmen of certain clubs whom overspend money they don't have every year, don't see any harm in Delaney getting funding if goes to the grass roots of the game.

pineapple stu
16/12/2009, 10:50 AM
If the Government give money to the league (as they do; we got E1m for the Bowl AFAIK, not to mention the Revenue amounts that Drogheda and Cork have had written off in the last 18 months), then I think they're entitled to ask Delaney wtf is going on.

(But I accept BYCTWD's point that it's a rather curious action to take)

centre mid
16/12/2009, 10:51 AM
I believe that they have been trying to get the FAI in for some time.

Sam_Heggy
16/12/2009, 11:20 AM
Will Delaney pull them up on the State of the Country?
Why the Irish Government is paying out hand over fist in Social Welfare to folk only coming to Ireland to sit on their arse and make money.

The FAI are not exactly covering themselves in glory when it comes to LOI but it's a bit rich of the Government to call them into question.

Magicme
16/12/2009, 11:26 AM
As far as I know all sporting bodies have been called in one by one to talk as the government are trying to look at their capital spending on sport and just want to find out what is going on in all sports.

tiktok
16/12/2009, 11:40 AM
As far as I know all sporting bodies have been called in one by one to talk as the government are trying to look at their capital spending on sport and just want to find out what is going on in all sports.

It's nice for the Minister to finally take in interest in his brief that doesn't involve four legged animals*.



*Apologies to Owen Heary, that was unintentional, you're doing a great job of walking upright these days.

marinobohs
16/12/2009, 12:18 PM
If you were in charge, would you give funding to the league, given the state it's in?

In fairness, the Government have provided support for the LOI through the various grants they provide. while this may not be on the scale given to other sports it has been substancial over the years. As SP points out the LOI has not helped its cause by the way it has operated.

Im sure no discussion is needed (or allowed) about the Government grants given to a certain club for ground completion !

It is difficult for any organisation to go looking to the Govt for funding when a previous allocation was misappropriated (THIS IS NOT A GO AT SRFC BUT SIMPLY A FACT relevant to the discussion).

weecountyman
16/12/2009, 12:35 PM
The government could be more generous but in such a fractious situation it's difficult. Maybe they could take over the running of the league, do a NAMA on it (joke) or just simply provide facilities via local councils and run them as proper businesses.

TNB is due to be there too! Seems he has a fair bit of political clout.

OneRedArmy
16/12/2009, 12:40 PM
If you were in charge, would you give funding to the league, given the state it's in?


It is difficult for any organisation to go looking to the Govt for funding when a previous allocation was misappropriated (THIS IS NOT A GO AT SRFC BUT SIMPLY A FACT relevant to the discussion).They have no problem providing Bord na gCon with buckets of cash despite their governance arrangements making the LoI look like the West Wing. Do a search for Bord na gCon and governance to read the PAC Oireachtas report, it takes cronyism and dodgy dealings to a level the LoI can only aspire to.

Macy
16/12/2009, 12:54 PM
Are all these grants people mention Government money or Lottery money?

And how does that compare with the Nags and Dogs? It's not comparable at all. If we all had enclosed subsidised bars and restaurents from which the punters could watch the football, I'm sure we'd be doing alright.

marinobohs
16/12/2009, 2:09 PM
Are all these grants people mention Government money or Lottery money?

And how does that compare with the Nags and Dogs? It's not comparable at all. If we all had enclosed subsidised bars and restaurents from which the punters could watch the football, I'm sure we'd be doing alright.

Not for one second justifying the mad money thrown at the nags and dogs but it should be pointed out that they presented the Government with a coherent business plan to entice the money from them. At this moment the LOI does not know its future structure or membership never mind have a coherent business strategy. As long as this remains the position then we can forget about substanial investment from any source.
Given the current economic situation the chance of a serious investment by Government is probobly gone. I suspect any lottery money will be diverted to the Health sector not to mention the ongoing costs of AVIVA stadium (considerable Govt investment ongoing) and the bunker at Abbotstown.

TheBoss
16/12/2009, 2:16 PM
Link here:
http://asx.heanet.ie/oireachtas/committee_4_broadband.asx

forza
16/12/2009, 3:11 PM
Your woman spoke very well. This Cork fella on now and fella before your woman, god give me strength never had so much **** in my life talk about stating the obvious and telling us what we know already.

John83
16/12/2009, 4:06 PM
They have no problem providing Bord na gCon with buckets of cash despite their governance arrangements making the LoI look like the West Wing. Do a search for Bord na gCon and governance to read the PAC Oireachtas report, it takes cronyism and dodgy dealings to a level the LoI can only aspire to.
That sounds like a good read. You mean this one (http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=ACC20080626.XML&Ex=All&Page=1)?

rambler14
16/12/2009, 11:15 PM
What player was on €4000 a week?? Colin Healy?

I assume the club with the 8 or 9 players on over a €100,000 a year is either Cork City or Bohs?

A N Mouse
17/12/2009, 9:57 AM
Compare and contrast the headline on the same story

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1217/1224260839411.html

http://www.examiner.ie/sport/delaney-warns-of-further-problems-for-clubs-108057.html

Acornvilla
17/12/2009, 10:02 AM
Compare and contrast the headline on the same story

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1217/1224260839411.html

http://www.examiner.ie/sport/delaney-warns-of-further-problems-for-clubs-108057.html
hahahaha
wtf is with journos?

OneRedArmy
17/12/2009, 10:17 AM
Compare and contrast the headline on the same story

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/1217/1224260839411.html

http://www.examiner.ie/sport/delaney-warns-of-further-problems-for-clubs-108057.htmlUsual "world begins and ends in Cork" stuff from the Examiner ;):D

compo
17/12/2009, 10:28 AM
Usual "world begins and ends in Cork" stuff from the Examiner ;):D

It does:)

tiktok
17/12/2009, 11:10 AM
Usual "world begins and ends in Cork" stuff from the Examiner ;):D

Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning there was Cork, and God was from Cork, and it was good, like"

Riddickcule
17/12/2009, 2:21 PM
Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning there was Cork, and God was from Cork, and it was good, like"
:D Hahahaha,

Thanks, i needed that.Long day.