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ofjames
15/12/2009, 3:13 PM
RTÉ Sports Team of the Year shortlist:

Kilkenny Hurling Team
Leinster Rugby Team
Team Ireland A1 GP Team
Cork Ladies' Football Team
Bohemian Football Club
Irish International Rugby Team
Kerry Football Team
The team behind Sea The Stars

How in the name of god is the Irish soccer team not on the short list?

For frick sake, the A1GP team and Cork Ladies??? Give me a break. The performance in Paris alone merits being ahead of those jokers.

No footballer in the nominees for the sports person of the year either

shambles

endabob1
15/12/2009, 3:24 PM
The A1GP team won the A1 GP Title, I think that's a fair shout.

jbyrne
15/12/2009, 3:29 PM
The A1GP team won the A1 GP Title, I think that's a fair shout.

but is it really an Irish team?

Murfinator
15/12/2009, 3:56 PM
Because all the listed teams achieved notable success over the year? While the soccer team were the plucky losers once again.

Murfinator
15/12/2009, 3:59 PM
And I certainly don't think it's fair calling the A1 GP or Cork ladies team "jokers". Just because they're less established or popular sports doesn't diminish the achievement of any success they might have.

besides, if they were nominated or not it wouldn't matter, the rugby team were always winning that award after the grand slam and going unbeaten for an entire year.

tetsujin1979
15/12/2009, 4:16 PM
but is it really an Irish team?
Details of the team here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_Team_Ireland
All Irish drivers (Firman was born in England, but has an Irish passport)

rambler14
15/12/2009, 4:28 PM
The Cork Ladies Football Team won the All-Ireland for the 5th year in a row a massive achievement no matter what the sport is.
This country has a history of rewarding second place. All the nominated teams WON at their respective sports.
As much as I love the Irish Soccer Team they didn't win! It's about time this country started recognising winners as for too long 2nd, 3rd and 4th place has been classed as a major achievment.

Look at the individual nominations for christ sake..........
Rory McIlroy (Golf)
Katie Taylor (Boxing)
Brian Cody (Hurling)
Olive Loughnane (Athletics)
Brian O'Driscoll (Rugby)
Shane Lowry (Golf)
Bernard Dunne (Boxing)
Paul Galvin (Gaelic Football)


Somebody tell me why in the name of god is Bernard Dunne nominated????
It seems to me he's only nominated so as to prove my point!

tetsujin1979
15/12/2009, 4:31 PM
Somebody tell me why in the name of god is Bernard Dunne nominated????
It seems to me he's only nominated so as to prove my point!
He did win the title in March of this year

Scram
15/12/2009, 4:56 PM
RTÉ Sports Team of the Year shortlist:

Kilkenny Hurling Team
Leinster Rugby Team
Team Ireland A1 GP Team
Cork Ladies' Football Team
Bohemian Football Club
Irish International Rugby Team
Kerry Football Team
The team behind Sea The Stars

How in the name of god is the Irish soccer team not on the short list?

For frick sake, the A1GP team and Cork Ladies??? Give me a break. The performance in Paris alone merits being ahead of those jokers.

No footballer in the nominees for the sports person of the year either

shambles

Are you serious??!!!!

What has the Irish Soccer team achieved??? How ridiculous!!! :D

Our Rugby Team have it won hands down, proper achievement...THEY WON SOMETHING!! Brian O'Driscoll for Sports "Personality" of the year. Major respect to this legend.
No competition.

ofjames
15/12/2009, 5:37 PM
the team played great and was a credit to the nation

the cork ladies were a credit to the 150 people who give a crap about ladies GAA. whereas nobody gives a crap about A1 Grand Prix. its some rubbish competition invented by some oil tycoon arab for no particular reason, its the league one of motorsport.

i'm sure there are schoolboy teams who have won titles for multiple years running. doesnt mean they are particularly deserving of an honour from the national broadcaster

i'm not suggesting that the team should win this award, obviously leinster and the irish rugby team would be far more deserving. but for anyone to suggest that the achievement of cork ladies gaa in winning a competition where there are at most 3 competitive teams year in year out is greater than going unbeaten in a world cup qualifying group containing the world champs and going to paris and beating the world cup runners up than i think thats just madness, not even roy keane would say that

Murfinator
15/12/2009, 6:00 PM
It's an award for sporting merit not an award for "sports team who the most people give a crap about".

Mad Moose
15/12/2009, 6:37 PM
its the league one of motorsport.


Presumably your like so many of our fanatical international side fans, actually a fan of English football, based on that particular analogy?. I'm not aware of its use anywhere else in explaining a ranking level as you are doing here. Hence the suggestion your a TV football fan of another countries football team.

If indeed, and I wasn't aware of it, an Irish team actually won an international motorsports competition then get it in the nominations. That is a fantastic achievement and one I'd never have expected given the wealth of motorsport talent in driving and technology in the world. It certainly deserves its place as do Cork Ladies Senior Football Team. They are after all nominations.

Dodge
15/12/2009, 6:47 PM
How in the name of god is the Irish soccer team not on the short list?


The won 2 games in the 2009 calandar year. 2-1 in cyprus, and 1-0 in a friendly at home to South Africa.

geysir
15/12/2009, 6:49 PM
the cork ladies were a credit to the 150 people who give a crap about ladies GAA. whereas nobody gives a crap about A1 Grand Prix.

The Langerettes played in front of 22k in the final and about 180k watched the whole game on TG4, similar to the FAI cup final attendance and viewing figures.
3 GAA teams on the list is a bit much

Qualification for a finals is the minimum standard for the national team.
Bohemians deserve the accolade of the best soccer team, 2 in a row league winners and did alright in the European competition.

Razors left peg
15/12/2009, 7:02 PM
The International Rugby team and Brian O Driscoll clear winners for me. Much and all as I love the football side, they cant compete with what the rugby team achieved and O Driscoll was awesome in the last year.

Leejo
15/12/2009, 7:24 PM
Jesus wept. Kop onto yourself mate. One decent performance and they deserve to be team of the year? They came on a hell of a lot from previous years and that's all down to trap but to say they're even close to being team of the year is comical.

4 wins 6 draws and they should be nominated? :D

Kilkenny Hurling Team - How many AI is that now? 4?
Leinster Rugby Team - Heineken cup champions - enough said
Team Ireland A1 GP Team - World A1 Champions
Cork Ladies' Football Team - 5 AI in a row now is it?
Bohemian Football Club - 2 LoI's in a row, first time retaining in their history.
Irish International Rugby Team - Grand Slam champions, went the whole year undefeated
Kerry Football Team - AI champions again after some excellent displays particularly against Dublin
The team behind Sea The Stars - Don't know much about this one though although I'm sure there was a huge achievement attached to it

There's a LOT more teams deserving of the award then they are.

Schumi
15/12/2009, 7:43 PM
The team behind Sea The Stars

Laughable. How is that a sports team?

yiddo
15/12/2009, 8:16 PM
the egg chasing chaps will win the team award and Cody wil get the individual award.

CarrickFan
15/12/2009, 11:03 PM
Who is Paul Galvin and what did he do?

ofjames
16/12/2009, 12:03 PM
It's an award for sporting merit not an award for "sports team who the most people give a crap about".

the more difficult the challenge, the greater the sporting merit/achievement as far as i'm concerned.

cork ladies basically had to win 2 matches of dubious competitive standard to win the all ireland. there is no other competitive team in munster. and the very few remotely competitive teams in the rest of the country are clearly inferior. besides, the standard of ladies football is atrocious. you'd see better quality watching the worst divisions of junior male football in dublin.

A1 GP is a commercial enterprise only recently dreamt up that is nowhere near the pinnacle of motorsport. its best drivers are F1 teams discarded for lack of talent.

Further, as someone else said, the team behind sea the stars is not even a team.

by saying the above 'teams' are more deserving of recognition it is merely ridiculing the irish team's achievement in going through the group unbeaten and finally managing to beat a top side away from home for the first time in 22 years. in my opinion there was more 'sporting merit' (as you put it) in the performance over in paris alone than winning A1 GP or the ladies championship

i'm not in anyway suggesting that the team should win this award, and i've already said this in my posts above. i just think they are more deserving of NOMINATION than the cork ladies, A1 GP and the sea the stars crowd.

we get cheated out of the world cup and suddenly the team's performances this year mean mean nothing... only beat cyprus and south africa. like that tell's the whole story:rolleyes:


Harpsbear: Presumably your like so many of our fanatical international side fans, actually a fan of English football, based on that particular analogy?. I'm not aware of its use anywhere else in explaining a ranking level as you are doing here. Hence the suggestion your a TV football fan of another countries football team.


witness again the pathetic attitude of league of ireland fans. same self-righteous nonsense that so-often gets spouted around here that basically unless your an LOI diehard, your word is muck. i've had a block-booked ticket for home internationals for donkeys years and follow the underage international set-up closely. so you can shove that condesending tone up your ar$e

CMcC
16/12/2009, 12:14 PM
Laughable. How is that a sports team?

Sea the Stars should be in the individual catagory;)

He would be a close second to certainty O'Driscoll against that field !

colster
16/12/2009, 12:43 PM
RTÉ Sports Team of the Year shortlist:

Kilkenny Hurling Team
Leinster Rugby Team
Team Ireland A1 GP Team
Cork Ladies' Football Team
Bohemian Football Club
Irish International Rugby Team
Kerry Football Team
The team behind Sea The Stars

How in the name of god is the Irish soccer team not on the short list?

For frick sake, the A1GP team and Cork Ladies??? Give me a break. The performance in Paris alone merits being ahead of those jokers.

No footballer in the nominees for the sports person of the year either

shambles

Ridiculous. The Irish soccer team have done nothing this year. They put in one decent performance in 2009 and that merits a place in the best team of the year.

CarrickFan
16/12/2009, 1:18 PM
I think a bit of perspective is needed here also...Maybe the Irish team dont deserve to win the award but i think some of the negative comments here are shocking..to belittle an unbeaten campaign by saying "4 wins and 6 draws etc" in a group which included the World Champions is unfair...

Ireland is a country of four million people where soccer(unfortunatly:)) is now possibly the 4th most popular sport..we were eventually knocked out by a country of 65million plus people where soccer is number 1...we came 2nd in a group where 2 teams had a much stronger pedigree in the game than us from countries with larger populations and structures in the game...even Georgia has a slightly higher population and i assume soccer is the number 1 sport there or certainly in the top 2...

We have to get real..this expectation to qualify for every major tournament is unrealistic so therfore the negativity and bad press when we dont is bulls*it!!..we were 3rd seeds in that group for a reason..
as much as i wish these were not the facts..THEY ARE.


Im hugely proud of the team for there efforts this campaign and for getting so close..then again i've been hugely proud of the team for 20+ years i've been going to matches regardless of results...and i will be for the rest of my life following them because its My country in MY sport.


As for the rest of the list...

Both the Irish and Leinster teams reached the summit of their sports so you cant argue with that..
Bohs certainly played the best football in the LOI.
Sea the Stars is a phenomenon who really deserves to be recognised..
Dont know much about A1GP team but believe they won so fair play...
Dont know anything about GAA so cant comment really.

an_ceannaire
16/12/2009, 3:05 PM
Cant believe Sheamus the wrestler isnt there!!!!;)

ofjames
16/12/2009, 4:33 PM
an irish team that less than a month ago was deemed SO worthy of a place at the greatest sporting tournament on earth that most of you guys were in handball-induced-hysterics screaming conspiracy and injustice on here is now considered by the same guys to be a failure who have achieved nothing that merits recognition (not even more worthy of a nomination than the cork ladies)

some amount of hypocrites around here:rolleyes:

rambler14
16/12/2009, 4:37 PM
an irish team that less than a month ago was deemed SO worthy of a place at the greatest sporting tournament on earth that most of you guys were in handball-induced-hysterics screaming conspiracy and injustice on here is now considered by the same guys to be a failure who have achieved nothing that merits recognition (not even more worthy of a nomination than the cork ladies)

some amount of hypocrites around here:rolleyes:

To reiterate everyone's point to you again..........Did Ireland win? No Did the Cork Ladies win? Yes

If they qualified they would be nominated. Would they win? Christ no! If they were nominated now would they win? Not in a million years!

Get over it. Everyone whose there deserves to be nominated....FACT!

I reckon your just a sexist buddy.

Leeside Swagger
16/12/2009, 5:09 PM
I think a bit of perspective is needed here also...Maybe the Irish team dont deserve to win the award but i think some of the negative comments here are shocking...

We're already getting a "special merit" award from FIFA dont forget:D

Leeside Swagger
16/12/2009, 5:11 PM
Id fancy Rory Mclroy to win both the RTE and the BBC awards in the next 5 years. Has this been done before does anyone know? Might be worth putting a 10er on it.....

colster
16/12/2009, 5:11 PM
an irish team that less than a month ago was deemed SO worthy of a place at the greatest sporting tournament on earth that most of you guys were in handball-induced-hysterics screaming conspiracy and injustice on here is now considered by the same guys to be a failure who have achieved nothing that merits recognition (not even more worthy of a nomination than the cork ladies)

some amount of hypocrites around here:rolleyes:

Give it a break. The Irish soccer team did not achieve anything this year. Maybe we should have a get together in Phoenix Park with Joe Duffy.
Consider this the Munster Rugby team actually won their domestic league and got to a European Semi-Final and they were not mentioned.

Leeside Swagger
16/12/2009, 5:15 PM
Give it a break. The Irish soccer team did not achieve anything this year. Maybe we should have a get together in Phoenix Park with Joe Duffy.
Consider this the Munster Rugby team actually won their domestic league and got to a European Semi-Final and they were not mentioned.

Ya but in fairness thats seen as a failure of a season for Munster. Its like Kerry winning the national league and being knocked out in the semis of the championship.

PartySaint
16/12/2009, 5:35 PM
The Irish Cricket team actually qualified for a World Cup and they weren't nominated

Dodge
16/12/2009, 6:15 PM
we get cheated out of the world cup and suddenly the team's performances this year mean mean nothing... only beat cyprus and south africa. like that tell's the whole story:rolleyes:



For the 2009 calander year it absolutely does in terms of success. Its not like I mentioned draws at home to Bulgaria or Montenegro


Regardless of the merits, you need to calm down if this is you level of incredulity at a poxy RTE award...