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Pauro 76
24/11/2009, 11:45 AM
Always enjoy Con's RTE blog.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/features/conmurphy/

Definitely looking forward to watching it. He's wrong about the worst kit though, CSKA's away kit was bad, but I think Derry's kit this season is equally as bad! ;)

sligoman
24/11/2009, 12:03 PM
Could Jimmy Magee get any closer to Michael McGowan in the interview?

John2626
24/11/2009, 2:52 PM
Crass thing to say, lots of very embarassed laughter and he tried to make light of it. But in fairness it was a joke lots would make, but not on public tv, have to sack the editor (it's taped after all!).

It goes out LIVE on on TV. Get your facts right before asking for someone to be sacked!!

celticV3
24/11/2009, 3:00 PM
This isn't online yet is it? Probably a last minute edit.

Fingal Fan
24/11/2009, 3:23 PM
This show has been great for giving exposure to LOI football that is sadly lacking in the rest of the media e.g. the Indo gave more coverage to the GAA recognising the GPA than to Fingals cup win on Sunday .RTE and TnaG also grand for live matches .
I think the idea on last night was to bring all the panellists together for the final programme - thats why Roddy Collins was there, he hasnt been on since he got the Malta job . Probably wishes he wasnt now .

Riddickcule
24/11/2009, 4:39 PM
A lot of people will disagree with me but i think MNS is a downright amateur joke.

Too much babble and not enough action, topped off with all the gimmicky jazz like MNS factor.Although i thought the archive thing was good.

Why can't it be run the same way "Premier Soccer Saturday" is run?

tippex
24/11/2009, 4:45 PM
A lot of people will disagree with me but i think MNS is a downright amateur joke.

Too much babble and not enough action, topped off with all the gimmicky jazz like MNS factor.Although i thought the archive thing was good.

Why can't it be run the same way "Premier Soccer Saturday" is run?

Probably down to the fact that they don't have the same level of coverage at the games (2-3 cameras compares to 14 or more at premier league games)

I guess the idea behind it is a mixture of match of the day, soccer am and soccer saturday.

My main gripe with the show has always been roddy but after last night performance I don't think he will be an issue any longer.

Martinho II
24/11/2009, 5:13 PM
It was a good show .. I watched it this morning and I was nearly late for work because the craic was good..Roddys comments were patronising and disrespectful.. The show was better without him.. He misses not being the centrefold of attention.. I would bet you that he gets very little coverage in Malta which is why he came back..

It was strange Sean Prunty being dressed up but somehow it suits him to the ground.. great to see on the the last clips of the program when the theme tune started that Liam Lynchs goal in Galway was featured plus one of our world renowned Section O Leaders being featured on the telly in all his glory at the Bray game!:eek:

saintmaniac
24/11/2009, 5:35 PM
I've been defending MNS for some time now to other female LOI fans, who reckon it's all a big boys' club, and nothing else. But after this week, I can't defend it anymore.

Roddy's a loose cannon, and a bit of an idiot to say the least, so I don't have great expectations of him. But he didn't just say it once, he actually repeated it once or twice, with no sense of shame whatsoever. He was like a teenage boy at the back of the class, making personal comments at the teacher's expense. What was nearly worse than his comment, was the reaction of the panel around him, giggling hysterically while Con tried (and failed) to issue a proper apology. I think it falls flat when you are trying not to laugh and everyone around you treats it with the same degree of seriousness.

Then, after the break, you had the Thunderstrike sequence with two random promo girls arm-in-arm with Danny Murphy and Mark Rossiter, for seemingly no reason whatsoever other than to be "decorative". Which is something that I would normally just cringe at, but after the whole Roddy episode, it just rankled.

I wouldn't blame Paul Cook if he does take RTE to task on this (although I'm not so sure he will), but I don't think he needed apologising to so much, as the general public. For every woman watching who's suffered domestic abuse, every kid who has been hit and watched his mother or sister endure the same. How many of the people in this thread who claim "it's just a laugh" have been a victim of domestic abuse? It's a bit like people who claim there's not much racism in this country - well, if you're white, Irish and middle class, you're not going to be the person targeted, are you?! RTE is our national broadcaster, they have a responsibility to the public that pays its licence fee. In no way can this be defended.

(I did laugh at the karaoke sequence, btw, in case people seem to think I'm a humourless cow. Johnny Mac and Dave Barry to beat Jedward to the Christmas number 1...)

MeathDrog
24/11/2009, 6:00 PM
Any chance someone has the footage and can put it up on youtube?

LukeO
24/11/2009, 7:11 PM
I've been defending MNS for some time now to other female LOI fans, who reckon it's all a big boys' club, and nothing else. But after this week, I can't defend it anymore.

Roddy's a loose cannon, and a bit of an idiot to say the least, so I don't have great expectations of him. But he didn't just say it once, he actually repeated it once or twice, with no sense of shame whatsoever. He was like a teenage boy at the back of the class, making personal comments at the teacher's expense. What was nearly worse than his comment, was the reaction of the panel around him, giggling hysterically while Con tried (and failed) to issue a proper apology. I think it falls flat when you are trying not to laugh and everyone around you treats it with the same degree of seriousness.

Then, after the break, you had the Thunderstrike sequence with two random promo girls arm-in-arm with Danny Murphy and Mark Rossiter, for seemingly no reason whatsoever other than to be "decorative". Which is something that I would normally just cringe at, but after the whole Roddy episode, it just rankled.

I wouldn't blame Paul Cook if he does take RTE to task on this (although I'm not so sure he will), but I don't think he needed apologising to so much, as the general public. For every woman watching who's suffered domestic abuse, every kid who has been hit and watched his mother or sister endure the same. How many of the people in this thread who claim "it's just a laugh" have been a victim of domestic abuse? It's a bit like people who claim there's not much racism in this country - well, if you're white, Irish and middle class, you're not going to be the person targeted, are you?! RTE is our national broadcaster, they have a responsibility to the public that pays its licence fee. In no way can this be defended.

(I did laugh at the karaoke sequence, btw, in case people seem to think I'm a humourless cow. Johnny Mac and Dave Barry to beat Jedward to the Christmas number 1...)

http://www.sivacracy.net/archives/yorkie_bar_quot_not_for_girls_quot.jpg ;)

razor
25/11/2009, 8:00 AM
Johnny Mac and Dave Barry to beat Jedward to the Christmas number 1...)Maybe Davie & Johnny mac should get Jedward wigs, they couldn't be much worse vocally.

Mr A
25/11/2009, 8:03 AM
Roddys comments were patronising and disrespectful.. The show was better without him.. He misses not being the centrefold of attention..

An image of Roddy as a centrefold. :eek:

Sweet Jesus there was no call for that.

Ciaran W
25/11/2009, 9:23 AM
The run dmc v league of ireland managers at the end of the show was brilliant :)

The Betting Man
25/11/2009, 11:27 AM
This was in the Daly Mail


RTÉ faced calls to sack Roddy Collins as a TV pundit after the controversial manager's amazing outburst on Monday Night Soccer.

The former Bohemians boss joked live on the programme that Sligo boss Paul Cook 'goes home and batters his wife', a remark that is understood to have horrified Cook and caused outrage at the club.

Collins' unscripted remark came after fellow panellist Eoin Hand had said that Cook, whose side had lost the FAI Cup final to Sporting Fingal the previous day, had taken defeat 'on the chin'.

Collins countered, bizarrely: 'Then he goes home and batters the wife.' The Sligo board are set to meet this week to discuss the matter and will demand an apology if Cook decides that he wants to pursue the matter further. One Sligo board member stated that the club were 'disgusted' by the remark and were waiting for RTÉ to address the issue before they release a statement.

While Collins' remark appeared to be meant as a light-hearted joke, it came across as a cutting utterance on one of the most popular figures in the League of Ireland. Fellow pundits Hand and Sean Prunty were visibly stunned, while host Con Murphy made a half-hearted attempt at apologising to the Sligo manager by saying 'Sorry Paul'.

When contacted by Sportsmail, RTÉ refused to say whether they would stop employing the 48-year-old, while pointing out that the programme has been removed from their website.

'Following comments made by Roddy Collins on the live broadcast of last night's MNS programme, presenter Con Murphy issued an apology live on air,' the statement said.

'The programme has been removed from the [website media] player in order to avoid any possible further offence being caused.' The broadcaster will face considerable pressure to stop using Collins, whose contract with the programme expired with the end of the domestic season this week.

'It is time for someone to make a stand against this guy,' said one source close to the programme. 'How many times will he be allowed to get away with saying things like that? 'He just tries to build his ego every time he is on TV. He thinks he is the [Eamon] Dunphy of League of Ireland and tries to make comments that are normally just in bad taste. The League deserves better than having someone like that representing it.

'He overstepped the mark and with any luck this should be the end of him.' Collins, brother of ex-boxer Steve also caused a stir in April when he suggested that two players from different clubs had a cheating nature and could not be trusted, after he reviewed incidents where the players appeared to dive.

The PFAI got involved on behalf of the two players — Derry City's Thomas Stewart and St Patrick's Athletic's Alan Cawley — and solicitors' letters were threatened unless a public apology was made.

As the saga rumbled on, RTÉ backed Collins in the row and no apology was ever given to either player.

Collins works part-time on the show in between his duties as manager of Maltese Premier League side Floriana, where he has enjoyed an untroubled tenure since his appointment at the end of June. His reputation as a manager has been boosted recently by his team's climb up to fourth place in the table.

This is not the first time that an RTÉ soccer pundit has crossed the line with an ill-advised comment.

Earlier in the World Cup qualifying campaign, Dunphy labelled the Republic of Ireland's draw at home with Italy as 'shameful', before later suggesting that his criticism had been taken out of context.

TRANSCRIPT OF WHAT WAS SAID

EOIN HAND: Paul Cook is a great example. Takes defeat on the chin.

RODDY COLLINS: Then he goes home and batters the wife.

Discussion switches to Sporting Fingal's assistant manager John Devine.

RODDY COLLINS: He loves his wife, by the way.

EOIN HAND: It's too late, buddy.

CON MURPHY: We'll have no more about wives on this programme. Sorry Paul.

Redie
25/11/2009, 12:09 PM
Could Jimmy Magee get any closer to Michael McGowan in the interview?

Hilarious! Looked like he was going to nut him at any moment.

Dotsy
25/11/2009, 1:18 PM
Mcgowan looked really uncomfortable as well.

Martinho II
25/11/2009, 5:55 PM
An image of Roddy as a centrefold. :eek:

Sweet Jesus there was no call for that.

whoops a daisy mr A! Meant to say centre of not centrefold.. have to consult the dictionary.. let Mrs Collins decide on the centrefold of the rodster!:D

Martinho II
25/11/2009, 5:57 PM
This was in the Daly Mail


RTÉ faced calls to sack Roddy Collins as a TV pundit after the controversial manager's amazing outburst on Monday Night Soccer.

The former Bohemians boss joked live on the programme that Sligo boss Paul Cook 'goes home and batters his wife', a remark that is understood to have horrified Cook and caused outrage at the club.

Collins' unscripted remark came after fellow panellist Eoin Hand had said that Cook, whose side had lost the FAI Cup final to Sporting Fingal the previous day, had taken defeat 'on the chin'.

Collins countered, bizarrely: 'Then he goes home and batters the wife.' The Sligo board are set to meet this week to discuss the matter and will demand an apology if Cook decides that he wants to pursue the matter further. One Sligo board member stated that the club were 'disgusted' by the remark and were waiting for RTÉ to address the issue before they release a statement.

While Collins' remark appeared to be meant as a light-hearted joke, it came across as a cutting utterance on one of the most popular figures in the League of Ireland. Fellow pundits Hand and Sean Prunty were visibly stunned, while host Con Murphy made a half-hearted attempt at apologising to the Sligo manager by saying 'Sorry Paul'.

When contacted by Sportsmail, RTÉ refused to say whether they would stop employing the 48-year-old, while pointing out that the programme has been removed from their website.

'Following comments made by Roddy Collins on the live broadcast of last night's MNS programme, presenter Con Murphy issued an apology live on air,' the statement said.

'The programme has been removed from the [website media] player in order to avoid any possible further offence being caused.' The broadcaster will face considerable pressure to stop using Collins, whose contract with the programme expired with the end of the domestic season this week.

'It is time for someone to make a stand against this guy,' said one source close to the programme. 'How many times will he be allowed to get away with saying things like that? 'He just tries to build his ego every time he is on TV. He thinks he is the [Eamon] Dunphy of League of Ireland and tries to make comments that are normally just in bad taste. The League deserves better than having someone like that representing it.

'He overstepped the mark and with any luck this should be the end of him.' Collins, brother of ex-boxer Steve also caused a stir in April when he suggested that two players from different clubs had a cheating nature and could not be trusted, after he reviewed incidents where the players appeared to dive.

The PFAI got involved on behalf of the two players — Derry City's Thomas Stewart and St Patrick's Athletic's Alan Cawley — and solicitors' letters were threatened unless a public apology was made.

As the saga rumbled on, RTÉ backed Collins in the row and no apology was ever given to either player.

Collins works part-time on the show in between his duties as manager of Maltese Premier League side Floriana, where he has enjoyed an untroubled tenure since his appointment at the end of June. His reputation as a manager has been boosted recently by his team's climb up to fourth place in the table.

This is not the first time that an RTÉ soccer pundit has crossed the line with an ill-advised comment.

Earlier in the World Cup qualifying campaign, Dunphy labelled the Republic of Ireland's draw at home with Italy as 'shameful', before later suggesting that his criticism had been taken out of context.

TRANSCRIPT OF WHAT WAS SAID

EOIN HAND: Paul Cook is a great example. Takes defeat on the chin.

RODDY COLLINS: Then he goes home and batters the wife.

Discussion switches to Sporting Fingal's assistant manager John Devine.

RODDY COLLINS: He loves his wife, by the way.

EOIN HAND: It's too late, buddy.

CON MURPHY: We'll have no more about wives on this programme. Sorry Paul.

thats transcript sounds dead accurate.. luckily enough I still have the recording and will watch it again! sensible comment by hand not as good from con.