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Such behaviour can be terrifying for the occupants of the car and therefore is totally unacceptable and people who wish to behave in this manner would be better of staying at home.
Well said.
I wonder if these idiots would feel it ok if a drunken gang were to do it to their girlfriend/wife/mother ??
Greenforever
23/11/2009, 4:35 PM
Well said.
I wonder if these idiots would feel it ok if a drunken gang were to do it to their girlfriend/wife/mother ??
The same applies to those who think kicking a football around on a crowded street and landing on some innocent individuals head, childs pram etc is acceptable. This behaviour really started around the Eiffel Tour in 2004 and unfortunately has got worse.
It is grand in a park environment where it is away from bystanders and people passing through or where there is a dedicated area for the supporters but not in other circumstances. Interestingly the people who post that this is ok (and generally on other forums) are the ones slagging off someone for going asleep in the pub, I know which is the least offensive and threatening to innocent people they come across.
OneRedArmy
23/11/2009, 4:43 PM
sorry, wouldn't have it.
I've gotten the train home to Limerick at the end of the work day enough times to know that enough noise to disturb anyone else on the train is out of order. All I want to do is relax (as much as you can in a train seat) and forget about the work day completed. It's why silent carriages were introduced on commuter lines in the UK.
Like I said, I walked through a few other carriages to get to the dining carriage, and all were silent, sod's law dictated I get stuck on the one with 4 idiots making more noise than the rest of the carriages I passed though combined.
There was a card game going on in one of the other carriages, but the lads weren't making noise, and weren't disturbing any of the other travellers.
If I want to listen to music, or watch a film, on a train, plane, or bus, then I use headphones. Have the courtesy to do the same.I agree with this. If the whole carriage is full of Ireland fans then its different, but if there are random punters there, who gives us the right to impose ourselves on them?!
Without sounding like a 60 year old, its simple manners, something that a minority, but an increasing minority nonetheless, of our fans simply don't have.
If that's "self righteous" then sign me up.
bennocelt
23/11/2009, 4:46 PM
The same applies to those who think kicking a football around on a crowded street and landing on some innocent individuals head, childs pram etc is acceptable. This behaviour really started around the Eiffel Tour in 2004 and unfortunately has got worse.
It is grand in a park environment where it is away from bystanders and people passing through or where there is a dedicated area for the supporters but not in other circumstances. Interestingly the people who post that this is ok (and generally on other forums) are the ones slagging off someone for going asleep in the pub, I know which is the least offensive and threatening to innocent people they come across.
It was in Korea in 2002, have to be honest I think its great craic - but then think of the women and the prams!!!
In Korea a Korean guy tried to copy the Gaelic style of the Irish but failed miserably and kicked the ball straight thought a shop front window!!!
Greenforever
23/11/2009, 5:00 PM
It was in Korea in 2002, have to be honest I think its great craic - but then think of the women and the prams!!!
In Korea a Korean guy tried to copy the Gaelic style of the Irish but failed miserably and kicked the ball straight thought a shop front window!!!
You must have been in a different part of Korea to me, where we stayed in Suwon you would be arrested for jaywalking even where the roads around the stadium were closed off to traffic.
Are you possibly talking about in a fanszone, which would be acceptable as its an area dedicated to the fans.
How would you feel if it was your wife and baby in a pram that got a smack of a ball??????
bennocelt
23/11/2009, 5:10 PM
You must have been in a different part of Korea to me, where we stayed in Suwon you would be arrested for jaywalking even where the roads around the stadium were closed off to traffic.
Are you possibly talking about in a fanszone, which would be acceptable as its an area dedicated to the fans.
How would you feel if it was your wife and baby in a pram that got a smack of a ball??????
ha ha thats funny, wow in Hooker hill (Suwon) it was an all nighter - waking up in nightclubs every night, hanging out with the GIs.
The police didnt go near us at all, but then we were fine - only havin the laugh
Not only was there gah, but the olympic style Luge, piggy back running, and the usual arm wrestling comps with the locals
Trust me I have the pics!!!!!!
Why would a woman go for a walk into an area with 10,000 Irish football fans!?
Greenforever
23/11/2009, 5:18 PM
ha ha thats funny, wow in Hooker hill (Suwon) it was an all nighter - waking up in nightclubs every night, hanging out with the GIs.
The police didnt go near us at all, but then we were fine - only havin the laugh
Not only was there gah, but the olympic style Luge, piggy back running, and the usual arm wrestling comps with the locals
Trust me I have the pics!!!!!!
Why would a woman go for a walk into an area with 10,000 Irish football fans!?
Cant make out what you are saying, our match was in Suwon therefore we stayed in Suwon.
Where do you get 10,000 Irish football fans??
Outside O Sullivans there were at most 100 to 200 blocking a main street in Paris and creating an intimidating athmosphere for anyone passing through minding their own business.
That behaviour would not have been tolerated in Japan or Korea.
There were nowhere near 10,000 Irish in Korea.
Are you trying to justify loutish behaviour with a pathetic attemt at humour??
bennocelt
23/11/2009, 5:24 PM
Cant make out what you are saying, our match was in Suwon therefore we stayed in Suwon.
Where do you get 10,000 Irish football fans??
Outside O Sullivans there were at most 100 to 200 blocking a main street in Paris and creating an intimidating athmosphere for anyone passing through minding their own business.
That behaviour would not have been tolerated in Japan or Korea.
There were nowhere near 10,000 Irish in Korea.
Are you trying to justify loutish behaviour with a pathetic attemt at humour??
yeah sorry, just got there before I could edit - meant sole! In suwon was the game, the suburb miles away:o
10,000 - no but there were a good few around - enough to keep the bars rolling all nite long
Im just saying the football stuff was around in Korea too
But there was virtually no aggression in Korea - all good fun
NeilMcD
23/11/2009, 5:25 PM
Lads this is madness, I agree if the scenes outside O Sullivans seem bang out of order. But I have heard loads of stories and have met lots of people on Ireland trips, precisely because we made our prescence felt by singing sons and the people joined in or some even go to the games on the back of it.
Tets I get the feeling you would not chat a girl up in case you were disturbing her night and she never asked you to intervene and disrupt her good night.
bennocelt
23/11/2009, 5:30 PM
Cant make out what you are saying, our match was in Suwon therefore we stayed in Suwon.
Are you trying to justify loutish behaviour with a pathetic attemt at humour??
Sorry GF misread your post - got mixed up - (but Suwon was miles away from all the craic!)
No Im not, but there is really a very short line between irish style fun and what is considered normal behaviour by others
ArdeeBhoy
23/11/2009, 5:49 PM
Such behaviour can be terrifying for the occupants of the car and therefore is totally unacceptable and people who wish to behave in this manner would be better of staying at home.
It's not desirable and wouldn't do it myself, but a bit of high spirits never hurt anyone. And whoever that said that 'sexist' comment about mother, sister or whoever, mine'd probably try and run them down, if they got in their way, that much......
It's not desirable and wouldn't do it myself, but a bit of high spirits never hurt anyone. And whoever that said that 'sexist' comment about mother, sister or whoever, mine'd probably try and run them down, if they got in their way, that much......
It wasn't sexist :rolleyes:
It was a reference to the other post about a group of pished Ireland fans gathering around a car driven by a woma, and banging on the cars roof.
To my mind it's intimidation and bullying, and yes, that would be intimidating for a bloke too, but the poster referred to a woman so I responded in kind.
To be honest the fact that some on here think it is acceptable or puts it down to harmless high jinks, says a lot to me about the people who follow the team.
ArdeeBhoy
23/11/2009, 7:05 PM
To be honest the fact that some on here think it is acceptable or puts it down to harmless high jinks, says a lot to me about the people who follow the team.
Don't be so po-faced.
If you'd followed Ireland all round the world, like numerous people have, this kind of incident is a tiny blip and if it was as bad as people make out, most regular fans if they saw it would intervene.
Don't be so po-faced.
If you'd followed Ireland all round the world, like numerous people have, this kind of incident is a tiny blip and if it was as bad as people make out, most regular fans if they saw it would intervene.
I have followed them all around Europe and have seen and heard more of this sort of stupid carry on lately and I don't like it and I don't think it's being po faced not to like it.
Maybe banging on a car roof isn't the worst sort of yobbism, let's be honest I've been on the recieving end of a lot worse, but then I didn't say it was the worst thing, I just think it mirrors a general malaise in society these days.
Drunken yobbism dressed up as "only having fun, having a laugh".
I've been pished and enjoyed myself all over Europe (can't afford the really long trips) but it's never even crossed my mind to carry on like a tw#t.
I was in O'Sullivans and Corcorans till about 8 or 9pm on the Tuesday and I'm very glad I left early and there was no way I was going there after the game..
We ended up in a quiet bar near the hotel with a few apologetic locals...much better.
paul_oshea
23/11/2009, 8:43 PM
Did you pick up your baguette from there desyf?
I was expecting you to arrive in with a beret and a glass of wine the next time i saw ye.
Deysf walking around the paris bars with a baguette in his hand.
Did you pick up your baguette from there desyf?
I was expecting you to arrive in with a beret and a glass of wine the next time i saw ye.
Deysf walking around the paris bars with a baguette in his hand.
Food is very important when on the lash.
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