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LukeO
16/11/2009, 10:48 PM
Crazy ending to the game, i thought Bray were going to complete the comback when Chris O'Connor scored but then he went and threw it away. Bray had plenty of chances but did'nt take them and that bwas probably the main reason why Fingal won the game tonight.


you could say the same of fingal?

That Fingal had plenty of chances but didn't take them and that was probably the main reason why Fingal won the game tonight?

No, that wouldn't make any sense... ;)

WoodquayBoy
16/11/2009, 10:57 PM
I'd like to congratulate the Sporting fans, but, like, are there any to congratulate? Feel sorry for Bray, but when you consider what was at stake, the attandance was disgraceful. I know United haven't exactly rocked the world with crowd figures this year, but that was shocking poor from the Bray public

GalwayRed
16/11/2009, 10:57 PM
That Fingal had plenty of chances but didn't take them and that was probably the main reason why Fingal won the game tonight?

No, that wouldn't make any sense... ;)
Fingal didn't win the game tonight though.

dong
16/11/2009, 11:01 PM
Pity to see Bray go down. Liked Eddie Gormley as a manager.
Fingal won't be much addition to the Premier division.

A face
16/11/2009, 11:32 PM
You cant rule out Cork not getting a licence just yet I wouldn't think.

Please dear god please let this be true.

Jofspring
16/11/2009, 11:58 PM
Pity to see Bray go down. Liked Eddie Gormley as a manager.
Fingal won't be much addition to the Premier division.

They might not be bringing a big fan base to the premier (not that many clubs have that anyway) but i wouldn't say they'll add nothing. If they add a few players to the current squad with the money they have been throwing around they will probably be fighting up at the top of the table. Another team fighting up near the top would be considered an addition to any league in my eyes whether people like it or not. Thank god they are out of the first division though. No one down here could compete with their full time setup and wages.

Lamper.sffc
17/11/2009, 12:32 AM
First off, I would just like to say hard luck to Bray. I really felt for your lot tonight. When we entered the ground and left it, we where congradulated by bray fans and staff on reaching the cup final and they whished us all the best (any I met). All the best for next year lads.

Looking at the two games we played it was obvious that the difference between us and yous was, we could finish the chances that came our way.
Fair play to the crowd that did turn up and the banner at the end for Bray was a nice touch.

And may I just finish with:D:D:D. nuff said

CF1989
17/11/2009, 12:46 AM
note to rovers : get at paisley and maher!

SligoBrewer
17/11/2009, 12:58 AM
I also heard tonight that they've sold over 1000 tickets for the cup final so far. .

I'd say 50% of those are desperate Sligo fans who got them via Athlete Foot's joke of an allocation.


Its the same old story, once a team i doing well, the fans will come out...FACT!

Bull****. How many fans had they at a cup semi final again?

Dillonman
17/11/2009, 7:54 AM
I'd say 50% of those are desperate Sligo fans who got them via Athlete Foot's joke of an allocation.



Bull****. How many fans had they at a cup semi final again?

They had alot more than their average for the league now and when they are playing Dublin Derbys against big bteams they will start to come out, some looking for trouble, others just jumping on the bandwagon!

Larry 'da' Wyse
17/11/2009, 8:50 AM
They had alot more than their average for the league now and when they are playing Dublin Derbys against big bteams they will start to come out, some looking for trouble, others just jumping on the bandwagon!

Its a while since we have used the phrase 'Bandwagon' in the League of Ireland. Long may it continue. Well done to Sporting. I don't think it is a good thing to see so many Dublin teams in the top tier but that is not their fault.

osarusan
17/11/2009, 9:00 AM
Well done Sporting Fingal, and hard luck Bray.

The Bray fans will at least have the chance to visit Jackman Park next season, so it isn't all doom and gloom for you.

As for Fingal, when Limerick aren't promoted, I don't give a crap who is promoted. In fact, given the manner in which Fingal destroyed us in Limerick this season (the best 90 mins I saw by any side this season), I'm glad we won't have to play them again next season.

All these comments about franchises and plastic teams are just so many whines and moans and whinges.

pineapple stu
17/11/2009, 9:20 AM
We have the St. John's Ambulance at the UCD Bowl do you think some of their members would help the club at half-time..... would they Hell.
Who are the St John's Ambulance, and what would you like them to do at half-time? Would you like a back rub? Or should they sweep the water that isn't on the pitch off the pitch?


http://foot.ie/forums/showpost.php?p=1272323&postcount=1873

Averages of 688 and 635 in their two seasons so far (more than Waterford's in the corresponding seasons, which was 434 & 670).

Please, don't over-exaggerate about how "poor" their crowds are. It's very boring at this stage.
Please don't take the attendances thread as irrefutable fact. It's been in the thread that Waterford's official figures don't necessarily include season ticket holders, and it's a common suggestion at least that many of Fingal's crowd are on freebies. Yes, Fingal don't have 150 at a game, but that doesn't mean the attendances thread should be treated any more seriously than wikipedia.

On the game - I didn't see either game; what can we make of the fact that Fingal seemingly had a hard time disposing of the (comfortably) bottom team in the Premier? Were Bray particularly up for the game, or were Fingal just not all that good? Those two results on their own (before squad strengthening, etc) would hint at a 7th/8th place finish for Fingal next season, which with their budget would be a big underachievment.

Acornvilla
17/11/2009, 9:43 AM
Who are the St John's Ambulance, and what would you like them to do at half-time? Would you like a back rub? Or should they sweep the water that isn't on the pitch off the pitch?


Please don't take the attendances thread as irrefutable fact. It's been in the thread that Waterford's official figures don't necessarily include season ticket holders, and it's a common suggestion at least that many of Fingal's crowd are on freebies. Yes, Fingal don't have 150 at a game, but that doesn't mean the attendances thread should be treated any more seriously than wikipedia.

On the game - I didn't see either game; what can we make of the fact that Fingal seemingly had a hard time disposing of the (comfortably) bottom team in the Premier? Were Bray particularly up for the game, or were Fingal just not all that good? Those two results on their own (before squad strengthening, etc) would hint at a 7th/8th place finish for Fingal next season, which with their budget would be a big underachievment.


stu over the two legs the match should have ended about 8-4 to fingal mabe 8-5

Lamper.sffc
17/11/2009, 9:55 AM
Who are the St John's Ambulance, and what would you like them to do at half-time? Would you like a back rub? Or should they sweep the water that isn't on the pitch off the pitch?


Please don't take the attendances thread as irrefutable fact. It's been in the thread that Waterford's official figures don't necessarily include season ticket holders, and it's a common suggestion at least that many of Fingal's crowd are on freebies. Yes, Fingal don't have 150 at a game, but that doesn't mean the attendances thread should be treated any more seriously than wikipedia.

On the game - I didn't see either game; what can we make of the fact that Fingal seemingly had a hard time disposing of the (comfortably) bottom team in the Premier? Were Bray particularly up for the game, or were Fingal just not all that good? Those two results on their own (before squad strengthening, etc) would hint at a 7th/8th place finish for Fingal next season, which with their budget would be a big underachievment.

Who knows how we will do. At this point im not even thinking about that. Im just enjoying the moment.

As you said you didnt see either game.
A game played in a swimming pool and a nervy team trying to hold onto a 2-0 lead. Well, It just doesnt hint at much at all really.
Non issue

No congrats stu? :)

pineapple stu
17/11/2009, 10:17 AM
If it makes you feel better, congrats. Would rather you weren't in the Premier next year for the same reason the Shels fan would rather you were.

HarpoJoyce
17/11/2009, 10:29 AM
I'd say 50% of those are desperate Sligo fans who got them via Athlete Foot's joke of an allocation.



Bull****. How many fans had they at a cup semi final again?

666 [according to a minority of LoI Premier fans this may differ from the self-confessed Rubbish on the attendances thread.]


Who are the St John's Ambulance, and what would you like them to do at half-time? Would you like a back rub? Or should they sweep the water that isn't on the pitch off the pitch?


Please don't take the attendances thread as irrefutable fact. It's been in the thread that Waterford's official figures don't necessarily include season ticket holders, and it's a common suggestion at least that many of Fingal's crowd are on freebies. Yes, Fingal don't have 150 at a game, but that doesn't mean the attendances thread should be treated any more seriously than wikipedia.

On the game - I didn't see either game; what can we make of the fact that Fingal seemingly had a hard time disposing of the (comfortably) bottom team in the Premier? Were Bray particularly up for the game, or were Fingal just not all that good? Those two results on their own (before squad strengthening, etc) would hint at a 7th/8th place finish for Fingal next season, which with their budget would be a big underachievment.

RELAX Pineapple, Take a Chill Pill. You may be hypoglycaemic... drink some sweet, hot tea. There, there. Is it true you want to start an Internet Flame War on the roles the FCC Civil Defence, St. John's Ambulance and Cross of Malta play at LoI venues. Everybody knows Cross of Malta would beat there asses.

Sporting Fingal are welcome in the Premier Division. I'd like to congratulate Conan and Brian and Darren and James and Robbie and Shane.

pineapple stu
17/11/2009, 10:47 AM
All very sweet Harpo, but it doesn't really explain what you want to St John Ambulance (I assume you were referring to) to do at half time.

Lamper.sffc
17/11/2009, 11:42 AM
If it makes you feel better, congrats. Would rather you weren't in the Premier next year for the same reason the Shels fan would rather you were.

It does stu, it does ;)

Schumi
17/11/2009, 1:16 PM
Whatever about Fingal, I'm happy for Conan Byrne that he'll be back playing premier division football. On the whole, I'd have preferred that Bray won as they'd have been easier to finish ahead of next year though I'll be happier going to Santry than Bray.

Roo69
17/11/2009, 1:35 PM
First off, I would just like to say hard luck to Bray. I really felt for your lot tonight. When we entered the ground and left it, we where congradulated by bray fans and staff on reaching the cup final and they whished us all the best (any I met). All the best for next year lads.

Looking at the two games we played it was obvious that the difference between us and yous was, we could finish the chances that came our way.
Fair play to the crowd that did turn up and the banner at the end for Bray was a nice touch.

And may I just finish with:D:D:D. nuff said

That was one of the differences alright, but i think the luck you got over the 2 games was a bigger factor. Quigley is one lucky boy but as i said last night, i'd rather be lucky than good. The save from Flood in the first half and then the ball hitting him on the ground really summed it all up for us this season or when the ball beat him in the 1st leg and then stopped dead in the mud bath.

We were the better side in both games but just didn't get the little bit of luck we deserved and needed to win these games.

Sporting will have a much changed team next season, quite a lot of the players are not Premier Division standard and i reckon Buckley will have a field day bringing in new blood in the close season.

All the best for your first season in the Premier.

BTW, did anyone else hear the roumers that Darren Quigley was eneligale to play in the games because he held a Derry City contract? This came from very reliable journo i was talking to last night.

The Betting Man
17/11/2009, 2:06 PM
"BTW, did anyone else hear the roumers that Darren Quigley was eneligale to play in the games because he held a Derry City contract? This came from very reliable journo i was talking to last night."

Got a text about this,this morning and I heard that Bray are going to put a protest in over it

centre mid
17/11/2009, 2:10 PM
I hope we dont. We didnt score enough goals over the course of the season to deserve to stay there. Fingal wont be strong enough to stay up imo, they are not great at the back. Darren Quigley would have been contracted to play for Fingal on loan would he not, if thats the case then the whole league is in trouble.

Roo69
17/11/2009, 2:23 PM
As i said, i don't know how true this is but the journo did say that because Quigley was contracted to Derry and because of what happened he should have not played in the games and that a protest had been lodged prior to the game. I think it's a fair enough question to ask from Bray's management, any other club would do the same thing.

Hulsey
17/11/2009, 3:30 PM
Be very suprised if anything comes of the Quigley rumour. Surely the Fai wouldn't be incompetant enough to not inform fingal on his availablility for the game (and surely fingal would have double checked). We've had 3 chances to stay up already so I really doubt we'll see a 4th

Riddickcule
17/11/2009, 4:32 PM
The quicker everything gets worse the quicker everything gets better..
Made that lil' number up for myself, my new favourite motto.

The Lep
17/11/2009, 4:33 PM
Im sure Bray would have lodged a protest before or after the first game if there was an issue here.
I think this is just nonsense and didnt come from Bray.

pineapple stu
17/11/2009, 4:36 PM
the journo did say that[...]a protest had been lodged prior to the game
.....

The Lep
17/11/2009, 4:38 PM
Who are the St John's Ambulance, and what would you like them to do at half-time? Would you like a back rub? Or should they sweep the water that isn't on the pitch off the pitch?


Please don't take the attendances thread as irrefutable fact. It's been in the thread that Waterford's official figures don't necessarily include season ticket holders, and it's a common suggestion at least that many of Fingal's crowd are on freebies. Yes, Fingal don't have 150 at a game, but that doesn't mean the attendances thread should be treated any more seriously than wikipedia.

On the game - I didn't see either game; what can we make of the fact that Fingal seemingly had a hard time disposing of the (comfortably) bottom team in the Premier? Were Bray particularly up for the game, or were Fingal just not all that good? Those two results on their own (before squad strengthening, etc) would hint at a 7th/8th place finish for Fingal next season, which with their budget would be a big underachievment.

Where are you going with Fingal dont have 150 at a game?

Roo69
17/11/2009, 4:41 PM
Im sure Bray would have lodged a protest before or after the first game if there was an issue here.
I think this is just nonsense and didnt come from Bray.

Correct. As i said i was told that Bray lodged it after the first game so i'm sure if it was correct then something would have been done before last nights game. Pie in the sky i reckon.

The Lep
17/11/2009, 5:02 PM
Complaints always go in after a team lose and never before.

I hope Bray get straight back up as they are a decent bunch. With the league now over its only part one of who plays in what division next season as all could change come march. Bray might get another reprieve to accomodate Derry in the first or if Fingal dont get a premier licence or there might be more twists to the story yet to come.
I wont take anything posted on here as true unless its otherwise proven to be true.

Martinho II
17/11/2009, 5:34 PM
Yup it shoudl them all before the game, they have flags and everthing, next seaosn they will have an additional 100 Id say as a few Shels fans seem to be peed that Dermot Keely is re-appointed as their manager!

where did you hear that dillonman about Dermot Keely?

Martinho II
17/11/2009, 5:40 PM
First off, I would just like to say hard luck to Bray. I really felt for your lot tonight. When we entered the ground and left it, we where congradulated by bray fans and staff on reaching the cup final and they whished us all the best (any I met). All the best for next year lads.

Looking at the two games we played it was obvious that the difference between us and yous was, we could finish the chances that came our way.
Fair play to the crowd that did turn up and the banner at the end for Bray was a nice touch.

And may I just finish with:D:D:D. nuff said

what was the banner about bray about lamper?

GalwayRed
17/11/2009, 5:41 PM
where did you hear that dillonman about Dermot Keely?
Here (http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=1365). Another year of hoofball:(

Dillonman
17/11/2009, 7:16 PM
where did you hear that dillonman about Dermot Keely?

Its on the Shels website man.

Battery Rover
17/11/2009, 8:21 PM
I see a thread on irishfootballforums where a player admits to diving that resulted in a player being sent off

http://irishfootballforums.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=539

Doomofman
17/11/2009, 8:38 PM
"BTW, did anyone else hear the roumers that Darren Quigley was eneligale to play in the games because he held a Derry City contract? This came from very reliable journo i was talking to last night."

Got a text about this,this morning and I heard that Bray are going to put a protest in over it

Eugh, why bother... They've been relegated twice now, deservedly...

Scrufil
17/11/2009, 11:32 PM
So technically can Sligo Rovers now lodge an objection to Quigley playing in the cup final?

seand
18/11/2009, 9:46 AM
If Quigley was ineligible for the Bray game (and I somehow doubt it) because of a contract with Derry then presumably he was ineligible for every game he played for Sporting.... so they'd have to forfeit every game he played this season, probably putting them bottom- cue playoff against Salthill, a hasty invite back into the first for the non-existent Kildare and another chance for Bray to stay up. Gotta love this league!

pineapple stu
18/11/2009, 9:58 AM
I assume the point would be that his loan would have expired at the end of the regular season, and so he technically wasn't a Fingal player for the play-offs only.

centre mid
18/11/2009, 10:22 AM
But play-off games would have to be asumed to be part of the normal league fixtures, is not as if they were added in as an after thought. I cant see this being a runner TBH, unless the loan agreement excludes him from playing in it, which is in itself so ridiculous that it might be true.

pineapple stu
18/11/2009, 11:01 AM
A loan deal often ends on a set date I think, not "the end of the season". But I think it's routine enough to get it extended a week or so.

tippex
18/11/2009, 11:05 AM
I would'nt be surprised if considering all the goings on with derry that if Quigley's loan was to have expired on a specific date that it got overlooked.

dahamsta
18/11/2009, 4:28 PM
I've deleted Roo69's post, and followups. The rule is crystal clear:

http://foot.ie/forums/misc.php?do=showrules#rumours

adam

SligoBrewer
18/11/2009, 6:39 PM
I assume the point would be that his loan would have expired at the end of the regular season, and so he technically wasn't a Fingal player for the play-offs only.

Or the fact that the FAI hold the contracts, and not Derry and therefore Derry cannot loan him out?

celticV3
19/11/2009, 6:08 PM
Is there an update on this now? Is he eligible to play in the final, I'm sure he is as the point of him not being able to would have been raised before today.

Jofspring
19/11/2009, 10:44 PM
Is there an update on this now? Is he eligible to play in the final, I'm sure he is as the point of him not being able to would have been raised before today.

I think at the moment everyone in the FAI have forgot their is even a Cup Final this weekend sadly. I agree though, he must be eligible or it is one major mess up by Fingal.

Lamper.sffc
20/11/2009, 3:52 AM
I think at the moment everyone in the FAI have forgot their is even a Cup Final this weekend sadly. I agree though, he must be eligible or it is one major mess up by Fingal.

If we messed up that big then we deserve a slap.